1- we don't agree, people been saying that for 20 years and it's bullshit
2 - the target, like beyond obviously, is well-heeled Beatles fans (retired or otherwise), of which there are millions.

Weird to see you playing dumb on this.

I love the Beatles, but this was never a good idea. The best chance would have been late psychedelic era: helter skelter multiball and shaker, the long and winding road ramp to different modes, tomorrow never knows hallucinogenic hologram shot-or lucy in the sky, or strawberry fields, etc. They went for the cute nostalgia, which is super boring. But it always seemed like an unholy union. What's next, Vatican Pinball? Mother Theresa madness!

This game is not targeted at the "bang-for-the-buck" crowd.

I could say the same for many of today's games though.

I think the point was this is what could have been...

The last 60 seconds are perfection IMO...

Yeah but, doesn’t mean we have to like it.

Did anybody else hear the Kaminkow interview (podcast) where he alluded to “the greatest shot in pinball”? He said it in relation to one of his next titles. The one with the most expensive license in history. Said we’d be “blown away”.

WTF was he talking about?

They're probably releasing this show reel a couple of weeks early via the Beatles official merchandise portal, asking for expressions of interests, and seeing how Pinside / other forums react, and polling distributors to see how many expressions of interests & deposits are taken.

Because ... they haven't set a final price yet. Based on the above data, they'll set the highest price they think they can get away with, and I'm sure they're hoping they can get away with $50k for the Diamond SKUs.

I think the pin looks super fun, but I have one question you might weigh in on.
To me, when I saw the art for the back glass, it looks very pixelated - like an enlarged photoshop file, rather than a smooth artwork.
See the freeze frame below (a bit blurry where I paused the video, but hopefully you see what I'm seeing.) Or, I might be wrong! I mostly
see it on the faces.

Can this be right for a 10K +or- machine?

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If it's on the Beatles merchandise site, they (Stern) don't care about Pinside.

I admire Stern for basically saying “F-you, Pinside” as they try to navigate to the blue ocean of the pinball market while sitting back and watching Pinside erupt into madness.

Why no picture of the LCD?

Looks like it was cropped out?

Is there definitely an LCD?

The art colors really nail the JPop color schemes.

My guess is this is Stern making the books look as good as possible before the angels get out. ???

Who knows if this is even going through distributors. Supreme didn't.

As far as I can tell it'll be sold through the Beatles Store.

Pinside needs to come to grips with reality.

There is. That last 'it won't be long' animated shot is from the game display.

I've heard that if you buy the Diamond Editition for $50K, the parts are shipped to your door and Ringo shows up a few hours later to help you put it together.

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LOL... Is "Pinside" in general not allowed to think this machine is brazen cash-grab? Not sure how you believe you've become the umpire of reality.....

I think distributors are selling them Trent from tilt amusement posted on Facebook that he is taking pre orders.

Not sure what’s more disappointing - the Beatles, or Star Wars.
Ps... please Lord don’t allow stern the license to Harry Potter

The reality of the pinball market possibly being beyond pinside is what thousands of people here refuse to accept.

You'd think after Supreme people would have figured this out. But you'd be wrong.

Oh you know Stern is setting aside 1-4 for the whales willing to pay even more for that plaque.

I’m with you, unfortunately pinball will never see animation like that. I would love to see Franchi do that type of art for the machine as well, but I’m pretty confident that Beatles group would have said no way.

Of course they do, to an extent. Its main market is definitely not hobbyists - which people were poo-pooing when I said that previously - but they'll still need to rely on them for *some* of the sales. Forums and general reaction will to some extent influence how many people put down deposits or express interest with distributors.

You're mad if you think they've set such high prices in stone, with a large production run (it's nearly 2k units). If it doesn't look like the demand is there, they'll lower them. The worst thing from their perspective would be not selling out, or getting very close to, quite quickly.

For sure, I'm not (and probably most of Pinside aren't) the target audience for this thing...
But, it is a pinball machine, Stern is the biggest manufacturer, and these are the kind of things we talk about here.

So, a bunch of people who own and buy pinball machines are talking about a pinball machine. That's it.
Someone will probably buy these, I'm sure.

And Supreme sucked too.

I agree with this. Stern seems to be going after Beatles' collectors more so than pinball collectors. Another good indicator is that they obviously could have shown this game off at Expo, but decided not to. I guess they figure that by moving the game up before the holidays, they can net some extra sales from high end collectors who have more money than they know what to do with. Still, I wonder if they might hurt Munsters' sales a bit by delaying it and allowing MBr to suck up "monster" buyers for the rest of the year without any competition.

Does this even have an LCD or DMD, based on the video I don't think it does. People expecting Rockband and Stern delivers this. This is about what I expected but Stern really needs to sort our their marketing and PR. They are just so disconnected.

It has the standard LCD. The "Won't be long" animated screen at the end is from the display.

But will it have an LCD screen? Thanks in advance.....

Just for grins, let's compare the Star Wars features to the Beatles:

Star Wars
Flippers (2), Pop bumpers (2), Slingshots (3), Standup targets (9), 5-bank drop targets (1), Horseshoe lane with single and dual up-posts (1), Spinning Targets (1), Scoop (1). Ramps (2). Miniature LCD screen on playfield. Lockbar button.

The Beatles
Flippers (4), Pop bumpers (3), Slingshots (2), Standup targets (6), 4-bank drop targets (2), 3-bank drop targets (1), Star Rollovers (2), Spinning targets (2) Magnets (2). Spinning Record.

You lose the easy ramp feeds but the extra flippers give you more ways to interact with the ball.

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Call outs sounded similar to guy who did them on RS?

Elvis merch is dead as a doornail and he's only 10 years older than Beatles.

How is it dumb to suggest a target demo is too old?

They should change the game slogan to "coming soon to a Costco near you" …..

You can always tell the people who have never stayed in the Philippines

what is the price?

I don't think there is a chance they'll sell 1964 of these unless the lower edition is like a Stern pro price.

how come you cant search you tube for the video and find it and it is not on sterns you tube page anymore?

you can only get to it from previous links

and is shows as unlisted on the video

are they already trying to hide it?

I think some heads have exploded when this turd dropped funny stuff

you ever go back to the start of these threads and find funny stuff people state as facts lol

It's a deliberate design choice. The technique is called half-toning and it adds a fun pop-art comic book vibe to the portraits. It worked out OK for Warhol and Lichtenstein I guess

I get that they're mainly going after The Beatles collectors, but it still seems so arrogant for Stern to say they'll make 1,964 (I guess up to that number, I kinda doubt they'll make it there unless distributors are fine with these sitting for a long time and/or Stern reaches out to high end furniture stores to buy stock).

Like people complain about Supreme, but that was a limited 200 machine run that Supreme bought upfront. I wonder how long it will take Stern sell nearly 2k when by most accounts 2k seems like a good run for any machine, let alone one with such limited appeal.

I think Stern fucked up the marketing on this in so many ways. The video was poorly made, there doesn't seem to be any media buzz around it yet, and I'm really curious how Stern intends to get the marketing message to Beatles collectors. And no matter how much they insist it will be limited, 1,964 machines is not a limited collectable. They'll probably sell the most expensive games, make the investment back, and slowly work on selling the rest of the machines. I wonder if the license includes a hard time-limit on when all of these machines need to be built and sold by. Like if they don't have to rush production and shove a bunch of stock though the channel, I can see them taking years to sell that many games.

That makes sense! Lichtenstein is so much more deliberate in style that it becomes a "thing." I get that this too could be deliberate.

You did good.

Now: head down, ass up

It's official Stern:

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Beatles store on the Web is saying Nov. 6 release date.

Seriously? Scum.

I can’t go back and read 950 posts and I’m obviously late to the party but has anyone commented on the flip in the video around 35 seconds? It’s the worst flip to put in a video ever! The flipper barely tips the ball as it’s rolling by.

Are the stores lined with beatles stuff made every month? No

What collectors pay 20k premiums for modern licensed stuff?

The collectors market want authentic period stuff... not paying 20k for licensed merch.