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The Addams Family bill acceptor problem


By Pinballmike217

2 years ago



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#1 2 years ago

I just installed a new coin door on my Addams Family so I could put in a bill acceptor. It is installed and working. It gives one credit for one dollar but when I put in a five dollar bill it gives only one credit, not five. I put the bill acceptor in another game and it worked properly there. The bill acceptor is hooked to coin switch 2 on the coin door interface board. Pricing is set to "custom", left slot one unit, center slot four units, right slot one unit, four units equals one credit. Has anyone else ever had this problem? Thanks in advance.

#2 2 years ago

Make sure that the game's settings know which slot the DBA is set to, and make sure that the DBA is set to slow pulsing, if possible. Normally, the pulses out of the DBA will be too fast, and the game won't recognize them. By setting the DBA setting to the proper coin slot and slowing the pulse timing, it'll make sure the game sees all the pulses on the coin switch.

#3 2 years ago

I've never had to use "custom" pricing on a Williams machine when using bill acceptors. I always used the factory provided settings like USA2, etc. The wiring harness usually has the bill acceptor wired to the center coin chute.

You did not specify the brand and model of bill acceptor you are using.

#4 2 years ago

Hey Ken, thanks for doing the DBA installation thread, that was a big help. I used it to order the wiring harness. The bill acceptor is a Mars AE 2411 which takes ones and fives. The factory settings do not offer a one dollar per game setting so I went to custom. There was no harness plug in my game with the orange and black wire so I connected one wire of the new harness to J3 pin 5 "center coin 2" on the coin door interface board. It was an open slot and I could press the yellow wire from the new harness right into the connector end. The other yellow wire is tied into the coin door coin switch ground wire.

#5 2 years ago
Quoted from Coyote:

Make sure that the game's settings know which slot the DBA is set to, and make sure that the DBA is set to slow pulsing, if possible. Normally, the pulses out of the DBA will be too fast, and the game won't recognize them. By setting the DBA setting to the proper coin slot and slowing the pulse timing, it'll make sure the game sees all the pulses on the coin switch.

How do you slow the pulse timing? That does not appear to be a dipswitch option on the DBA,

#6 2 years ago
Quoted from Pinballmike217:

How do you slow the pulse timing? That does not appear to be a dipswitch option on the DBA,

On my way home, so don't have access to my files at the moment. If no-one else chimes in before I get home, I'll look it up.

(Some MEI units had dipsifor it, others have to have it programmed via the programming card.)

#8 2 years ago

I filled out the card with pulse set to "long". I inserted it twice and it was rejected both times. Should it pass through the acceptor into the bill magazine? Do the dipswitches have to be in a certain position for this to work? There is no change so far, the acceptor is still registering a $5 bill as $1. Or, does the connector to the coin door interface board have to be disconnected for the update to work?

#9 2 years ago

If it will help. On my Williams pins with AE 2411 validators, this is how I have them set.

1 - off, 2 - on, 3 - off, 4 - on, 5 - on, 6 - on, 7 - off, 8 - off.

LTG : )

#10 2 years ago
Quoted from LTG:

If it will help. On my Williams pins with AE 2411 validators, this is how I have them set.
1 - off, 2 - on, 3 - off, 4 - on, 5 - on, 6 - on, 7 - off, 8 - off.
LTG : )

Hey Lloyd! I have my settings all the same except switch one which allows four way acceptance instead of two way. I can't imagine that would make a difference.

#11 2 years ago
Quoted from Pinballmike217:

I filled out the card with pulse set to "long". I inserted it twice and it was rejected both times. Should it pass through the acceptor into the bill magazine? Do the dipswitches have to be in a certain position for this to work? There is no change so far, the acceptor is still registering a $5 bill as $1. Or, does the connector to the coin door interface board have to be disconnected for the update to work?

All the dip switches must be off to use the configuration card.

http://www.meitechnical.com/mei-files/files/access-public/documentation/installation-guides/250057042_GA_AE2400_InstallGuide.pdf

#12 2 years ago

Thanks for all your help gentlemen. The configuration card resetting to a long pulse did the trick. It failed a couple times using a number two pencil so I used a black sharpie instead and it worked. I'm kind of surprised the pulse isn't just a dip switch setting, that would have been so much easier.

Thanks again Ken for your thread on DBA conversions, it was a great help. I did make one small modification. Rather than hacksaw off the lockdown bar release lever I just bent it in. By using two adjustable wrenches its a simple trick. Put one horizontally near the top of the coin door and one vertically on the bottom of the lever. Hold the upper one tight and bend the lower one in and up. This way you still have a whole handle to grab onto, its just in a different position and you can always bend it back if for some reason you want to switch back to an original coin door.

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#13 2 years ago

How did you get the acceptor to fit in the door? Did you have to modify the hole?

#14 2 years ago
Quoted from fattdirk:

How did you get the acceptor to fit in the door? Did you have to modify the hole?

I purchased a complete new replacement coin door from pinballlife. The original Addams coin door did not have a hole to accept a DBA. The replacement door has a plate over the DBA hole which is easily removed.

#15 2 years ago

Did you have any issue with the stacker magazine clearance? I swapped the door from my wcs over and ground the top lip to get it to fit but the magazine is bumping up against the flipper mech.

#16 2 years ago
Quoted from fattdirk:

I swapped the door from my wcs over and ground the top lip to get it to fit but the magazine is bumping up against the flipper mech.

Different playfields/ball troughs in both games.

TAF wasn't designed for a bill validator. ( TAFG was ) 300 or less capacity will fit in both.

LTG : )

1 year later
#17 11 months ago

Does anyone know where the thread is to convert addams family to take a DBA? also will the Pyramid Technologies Apex 7400 work on addams family?

#18 11 months ago
Quoted from crashnt20:

Does anyone know where the thread is to convert addams family to take a DBA?

Tap the AC into the AC line. ( unplug the game ) and switch wires piggy back onto one of the coin switches.

Pyramid will work, they'll help you with questions if you need it.

TAF didn't come with a coin door that can use a bill validator, TAFG did come with a coin door with a bill validator capability and wiring already installed.

LTG : )

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