What is a 'bastage'?

It's like a farging icehole.

If it were me and that many games...bulk discount Cointaker frosted LEDs 100/$69 + Pinside discount. Make sure to check the base styles (44/47 or 555) on your games. Warm white is my personal preference, and I use them as my "default LED" when I am not being picky about color or look.

Before this dude goes off with a 200 post thread on what to use for LEDs... there are about 50 other 200 post threads already out there debating everything from light color, to reliability, to their aftertaste, to whether or not they lead to better health care. You're better off reading those threads all at once so you can get your orders in than you are waiting around a week for this debate to happen again.

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Sorry guy but this is Pinside and LED threads will pop up every other day. Several topics are rehashed daily and it is all about pinball and the community. If someone has a question they should be able to ask without being questioned. Yes you could go through forum archive topics and probably answer any question you may have or you can simply ask.

That being said, I prefer Coin-Taker. You may want to order a couple hundred various colors in 44, 555, and a few 89's. Then experiment with colors on your different titles.

You should be able to head to the local Walmart...Christmas stuff is out now. Just wrap the game is some goofy flashing lights and call it a day.

Cheaper solution: replace AC/DC's playfield glass with smoked plexiglass.

Better yet just up the wattage in the room lighting, a couple of hundred watt floods should do the trick.

I wouldn't LED most of those games. LED a Space Shuttle? Power Play? AFM might look decent but its not worth the time or the money especially in the classics. Leave that poor Radical! alone.

Cointaker frosteds for most of the GI John. Although they do have a 44/47 base clear bulb called a "retro" which is really close to the old bulbs. You can do some neat stuff with the color frosted bulbs though. I really did a number on Elvis with using the pink in those parts of the playfield where the red was prevalent etc. And the frosted bulbs won't give you that direct glare into your eyes if you look at it from the wrong angle.

Cometpinball.com is Olpinguy/Art on the forums here, and he has great bulk prices. I'm going to be testing out his new retro bulbs next week since I have access to an EM and he doesn't. He's trying to get the closest to an incandescent bulbs, which I thought might interest you for your older machines.

Here's my take on the current LED market... It has come a LONG way. There used to be 2 options. Those two options did not work well in many games. A lot of people that gave LEDs a try about 4 or 5 years ago, hated the results and wrote them off as "a crappy look".

Now, suppliers of LED products have 15 different types and have worked out almost all the compatibility issues between manufacturers. Sure, there are still those games that just look awful with LEDs. But now there are very good choices for LEDing modern Sterns, mid-late 80's games and even some 90's games. A lot of pins (like EBD) will just never look right with LEDs IMHO.

I wouldn't typically choose to fully LED any game made before 1987. In all honesty, I only have all playfield LED's in my 3 Data East Games. DE/SEGA/STERN uses inserts and a power train that are perfectly suited for just about any chosen LEDs. Many 90's Williams/Bally games still refuse to feel right to me with any types of LED's in them.

It would be nice to know how those retro bulbs look.

Count me among the coverted. A few years ago, I hated LEDs. Last night, though, I was installing CT warm white frosteds in my Dirty Harry's hard-to-reach GI. The light spread is just as good as incandescent, color is a little off but not enough to matter. They are a little brighter, which is good. I still think bad LED conversions outnumber good ones, but that isn't LED technology's fault.

Pinballlife the more you order you get a quinity discount

I don't know about the other manufacturer, but CT's retros are identical to the factory incandecent color except just a hair brighter.

Id be happy to offer personal help.

You'll find we have 6 bulbs for GI lighting not found elsewhere.
They are all an amazing improvement in GI lighting.

From our Op-Max, to 4/4 low profile, to Crystal Fan.....there are great GI bulbs to fix the needs that have been asked about on threads.

More Pics coming, and videos from customers as well, but here is a GI shot to see:

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Coming soon!

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OMG MY EYES!

Did you take the plastic off in the Optimus Maximum white picture?

To me this stuff looks totally blown out, not well lit. Maybe that's just a problem with the photography, though.

I've learned that pictures of LEDs (or any lighting, for that matter) look totally different than what you see in person. I tried to take a picture of a #44 bulb with red condom, and it was impossible to get the picture to match what I was seeing.

Just to show versatility (because I haven't used the Optimus Maximus that I got to test out in the GI, just spotlights) here's the OpMax (white) versus a yellow 4-led flat-top on my Sandman.

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Uh, I've got to argue here. Space Shuttle looked amazing with CPR playfield and LEDs. No ghosting at all, at least on the one I had. I even had the GI with a fruity red, white, and blue theme to match the red, white, and blue pop bumper bodies/caps/wafers that I installed....never got anything but a crapton of compliments about how the game looked....especially from people that grew up with Space Shuttle.

Just wait until your WOZ shows up and she makes you put TVs in all your games .

Photography Guys, You all know how hard it is to photo LEDs....
As people have been wanting more light, we have added an assortment of bulbs that graduate and improve this.
For some people, yes, it is too much light, for others no.
Some people dont like LEDs at all, others say, only send me the brightest possible for everywhere.
By offering Choices, People can decide for themselves.

Just trying to save dude some time. The info is already here a hundred times over. He can order tonight or he can order a week from now after waiting on the same responses that he can read right now.

Just messing with ya I can definitely see using those in the spotlights in my SM and on XMLE.

Thanks for the pics, that lights up Sandman really nice. I have never been happy with the amount of light any of the spotlights on my games produce. Seems like this would be worth a try.

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Not you, too, Dubbs..

I used CT Supers with the 44 base in the GI in most of my games, the dispersion is very good. I'm looking fwd to seeing how these new Optiix maximus bulbs work too.

just don't waste your cash on the inexpensive 1-LED frosted bulbs, they are inappropriate for GI.

Edit: and I should also add that older SS machines may or may not play well with LEDs in the controlled lamps, but they work just fine in GI. My Paragon came out great when I converted the GI to all WW LEDs.

"Bastages", I have not heard that in many years. thanks.

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Not sure if anyone else has thought of this, but maybe you could convert your AC/DC back to incandescent, kick it old school. Then everything would look dull and there would be no obvious reason to complain.

P.S. This may not actually be a money saver, all things considered!