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have to agree OP.
I have ZERO interest in GOT. Never watched it - don't plan on ever watching it. Is the art to my liking? No. But i'm not on here harping about it all day. I'm not buying it.
So is it people who pre ordered bitching about it? If you don't like it, move along. Why waste energy bashing Stern and the title?

And to your point of developing a pin - yes it's hard and a ton of work to develop a pin. I think some of the negativity is coming from the delays and expectations that weren't met with this title.

So, yes, thanks Stern for continuing to put of titles in a timely manner even if they sometimes fall short of expectations. I just wish they'd listen to the masses calling for an Iron Maiden pinball.

I'm pretty sure many Pinsiders are engineers & graphic artists...

Still, thanks Stern for making cool games (I have a 100% Stern collection)

But please stop making expensive shitty incomplete stripped down ugly F'n games, because we won't buy em or put quarters into a janky pro on route missing code & a playfield.

No. You can't have a discount on GOT.

Stern makes a good game, but it is hard to sing too much praise when they are still in 1980s technology for display sand the prices are premium. I agree that it is probably very challenging to make a machine. BTW, Stern should send you a thank you for buying 6 new machines!

"Thank you Stern for making me pay you thousands and thousands of dollars."

Yes YOU might have zero interest in GOT. But what about the other guys who this is a dream title for? The expectations were VERY high and they fell VERY short. You say you want Iron Maiden to be made? Well what if Stern finally DOES decide to make it and then they used some generic photoshopped BS "artwork" on the playfield instead of some badass Derek Riggs hand drawn Maiden theme?! It would be devastating!!! Also what if the Maiden backglass just had the band members standing there with blank faces posing for the camera? Lifeless, unaccepatable, lazy, uninspired design. And yes Stern does have some amazing titles out there right now that I would absolutly LOVE to own if I could afford them right now. hahah

Bunch of lame ass people in pinball

Don't even get me started on the douchebaggery level around here.

ST and TWD had lack luster starts...give it some time.

gary?

I hope you never change your avatar because that day will be sad for me.

and WHO set those expectations??
Since this is the first time anybody has seen the art or playfield it certainly wasn't Stern. People built this up in their minds to be some sort of life altering purchase and now they are lashing out. I totally understand being disappointed in the end result and don't mind those who voice simple displeasure but the amount of teeth gnashing and anger is pathetic because it was based on an imagined reality.

I own and play pinball machines because I like pinball. I'm not a huge fan of some themes but love playing and/or owning those same machines anyway because they are fun to play. I laugh every time somebody says they won't own Mustang because *grunt* "I'm a chevy guy" ... silly to get so wrapped up in themes that you lose sight of the real objective (or so I thought) playing good pinball machines.
If it is only about spending $7-8000 for a something pretty to impress friends well then those folks don't get any sympathy from me.

You're totally right about us being the ones who set the expectations so high. I never planned on buying a GOT (just can't afford it right now) but I was very excited to see what they could do with this title. It has so much potential and cool stuff that you could accomplish. It's very frustrating because there are TONS of creative and talented people here on pinside that have so many good ideas to integrate into machines, artwork and even mods. And then you see something like GOT get pushed out and the WTF alarm goes off Hahahaha. I've seen multiple pinsiders in these recent threads "slap together" better art packages (using same characters) just to prove the WTF art design that it currently has. These are very expensive toys that keep going up in price so people rightfully so have high expectations and demand a lot more than is currently being pumped out. The music/sound/light package is going to be the determining factor now.

I am not getting a GoT and am pretty disappointed with the whole thing, but you have to give this to Stern.. right now, from my distributor I could buy a ST, Mustang, Met, WNBJM, WWE, TWD, IMVE or KISS. And most of that line up is pretty darn good. I held off on TWD and was all set for GoT. To Stern's credit, I am a very good chance of reflex buying back into a TWD Prem. So, they miss with one, but have great bench strength to pick up and run. You have to grant them that.

seeing it from your point of view, I agree with you. I can see how you were very let down if this is a dream theme for you.
you made your point well. I WOULD be devastated if they botched Maiden.

edit: just listened to Nate's C2C podcast and listening to his and his wifes review of the artwork of TRUE fans of the show I get the disappointment and feel for you guys.

Glad I didn't have to say it. Thanks!

And 12 months later when the dust settles and the code on Game of Thrones is exceptional, you'll still be able to buy one brand new in box.....just don't expect them to be plentiful secondhand with the Aussie dollar the way it is.

....I too want to own The Walking Dead.

It's the nature of the beast, people are complainers, never satisfied with what they have, always wanting it there way.
I am just grateful that they keep making machines.
Thank you Stern!

I think the purpose is so maybe they will try a little harder for the next title. We know they can't change GOTs art package but they do read pinside and maybe they will use a little more effort for the next one. The next one could even be a dream title for you.

Thank you JJP, Heighway and Spooky! As Sterns marketshare is being reduced they will be forced to innovate and make improvements.

To paraphrase DadofTwins says to Stern:

I think some Pinsiders are so hard up for the Next new pin that Stern is pumping them out too fast to satisfy those "What's Next" people and not putting enough time into design. Buyers were dropping deposits on a machine without pics of the game. Shows the thirst for New and more, like buyers addiction. Ironically there are plenty of great used machines in the market that are not getting the attention they deserve, hence the treads about great games for $2500. Imo

They'll just have to continue sobbing in the corner of the room, sucking their thumbs.

Exactly. I think it's important that it is made known to Stern that some of us potential customers won't stand for shoddy artwork/craftsmanship and they are losing dollars by not paying attention to those things. GoT was a dream theme for me, and I had the cash lined up for a Premium before I saw the photos. But the artwork on the playfield is a major letdown. I could not spend the kind of money they're asking for something that looks so bad. I hate to think how they will bungle Star Wars 7 if they get the license.

Stern does deserve a big thanks because without them we get a new pinball machine what, every 5 years.

If Iron Maiden Wants a Pinball after there likeness . Bruce Dickenson himself would make Gary Stern produce one he is so imperious !!
write to him,, better served

Depends on your budget / If you have the money some on here have (jealous) You can buy the 4-6 titles they pump out a year / Including the Vaults in that # of course

Most of these forums are full of hypercritical thinkers. However, I never judge a book by its cover. I am very excited to get my hands on GOTLe and mod the crap out of it! In fact, I am making a white walker mod as we speak with blue LED eyes! Question is where to place him?

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Make him a bash toy 3 inches directly in front of the flippers.

If you think of how many pins came out in 90's from the different manufactures and how many are considered greatness then Stern is doing just fine in my opinion, GOT to me looks good and I'm loving the upper PF. If its not that great then big deal, play it on site somewhere then move on, or buy it if it blows you away. When I first started to collect a terrible pin by Pinside stats was released, that game was Tron, Iron man was also hated yet look at them now and the art in those 2 games isn't special by any means. I don't know why but GOT is just giving me a feeling that it will be amazing. I hope I'm right, I don't watch the show and thusly could give 2 shits about the art, looks fine to me. Gameplay is always king, only time will tell. My only complaint with Stern is pricing, I would rather they made one model with enough stuff to make us all happy and a more reasonable price.

Well.....if u get the pro instead....

I'm really looking forward to playing this game. Don't care for the show, so the artwork is unimportant to me. But I love pinball and this looks like it will be an awesome game.