I'm finding the TFTC scoop shot to be very difficult. Not only is it hard to make but it bounces out from both the upper flipper and the lower flipper. It seems that 90% of the right flipper shots bounce out and 60% of the upper flipper shots bounce out. At first I thought it was the cliffys. But I tested without and it wasn't any better. Drop dead foam isn't helping either.

I have considered adding a post behind the scoop to the right - anything to make the shots a bit more likely to fall in.

What are the rest of you doing about this?

#2 11 years ago

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dlbuller

Pinside member

12y 30,400 429

I feel your pain. EXACTLY the same for me. Hopefully somebody else chimes in with some good news.

#3 11 years ago

PED

perryd

Pinside member

Locust Grove, GA

13y 73,150 1,938 13 43

nature of the beast.....I am afraid

#4 11 years ago

OPP

sleethering

Pinside member

Cleveland, OH

12y 51,400 859 6 46

Mine is pretty easy to hit regularly, and very rarely bounces out.

#5 11 years ago

JAP

temlog

Inactive member

Gurnee, IL

13y 30,150 91 6

The earlier playfields either sample of early runs had a larger scoop opening. Much easier in making the shots. Don't know why they changed it smaller.

#6 11 years ago

JDN

futurepinhead

Pinside member

12y 81,800 3,358 25

I had read somewhere on here that during production the scoop was accidentally moved 1/16th of an inch from borgs design.

#7 11 years ago

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AkumaZeto

Blocked

12y 5,026

Quoted from temlog:
The earlier playfields either sample of early runs had a larger scoop opening. Much easier in making the shots. Don't know why they changed it smaller.

Fact

Quoted from futurepinhead:
I had read somewhere on here that during production the scoop was accidentally moved 1/16th of an inch from borgs design.

More Fact. Prob heard me talking about it.

OP
Quoted from markmon:
What are the rest of you doing about this?

I installed a weaker coil on the upper flipper. But that only solves the bounce out. That does not solve the PIA it is to nail it from the lower flipper.

Stick with it though. The game is ACES once dialed in and is just all around AWESOME SAUCE!

#8 11 years ago

JAP

temlog

Inactive member

Gurnee, IL

13y 30,150 91 6

More than 1/16 of an inch. Seems more like 1/4. I found this out when I installed a cliffy. Ended up making a filler to support the protector.

#9 11 years ago

ZAK

pharoah007

Pinside member

Ottawa, ON

12y 21,900 22 5 9

Mine is not too bad

#10 11 years ago

GAB

gabegabegabe

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14y 54,300 502 18

Mine does the same thing. 90% of my shots from the lower right flipper bounce out. I have been trying to figure out if there is anything that can be done about it. If anybody comes up with anything, please post. Very frustrating.

My upper flipper shot doesn't bounce out nearly as often. It's more my missing the scoop, but that's a different issue all together!

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#11 11 years ago

RAD

videobrain

Inactive member

London

11y 7,650 35 1

Same issue here, thought it was the Cliffy causing it too, so interesting to hear it's the same without. I don't mind too much though, it just makes it more challenging and more satisfying when you do land it.

#12 11 years ago

WBP

ThePostmaster

Inactive member

Hermantown, MN

13y 52,800 2,383 4 8

Mine does it sometimes, but it feels like its my timing of shots, more than the game itself. I've owned two TFTC's now. The Cliffy does make it more difficult, but it can be done. Made me a better player. I love the game. I can say, I haven't experienced the bounce out yet, more of the I missed the shot effect.

#13 11 years ago

MVM

markmon

Inactive member

Hillsboro, OR

13y 98,300 13,010 21 81

Ok I solved this. I bent the scoop so that it curves much more and. Basically, I pushed on the top of the scoop bending the top down. The opening on the front is not as tall because the scoop "roof" is closer to the playfield. Haven't had one shot bounce out since from front right or upper flipper. I also hit the scoop twice with lower left flipper (couldn't do this before) and got to crypt jam on ball 1!

#14 11 years ago

JAM

NPO

Pinside member

12y 133K 7,655 3 17

OP
Quoted from markmon:
....and got to crypt jam on ball 1!

Man..... I suck ._.

#15 11 years ago

MVM

markmon

Inactive member

Hillsboro, OR

13y 98,300 13,010 21 81

It's the first time I've ever been there in a game. I think part of it was because I spent the previous two hours shooting the scoop while debugging the bounce out issue. When I finally fixed it, I was just nailing that shot over and over from the previous two hours of practice.

#16 11 years ago

XIU

renodakota

Inactive member

St. Louis, MO

11y 25,150 354 1

I get a bounce out about 1 in 15 shots and I don't have my cliffy in yet.
I think it is mostly due to bad shots, does the cliffy really make the shot that much harder?

#17 11 years ago

MVM

markmon

Inactive member

Hillsboro, OR

13y 98,300 13,010 21 81

Quoted from renodakota:
I get a bounce out about 1 in 15 shots and I don't have my cliffy in yet.
I think it is mostly due to bad shots, does the cliffy really make the shot that much harder?

The cliffy didn't impact it at all. I noted above what the issue was. Sounds like yours is fine.

#18 11 years ago

WBP

ThePostmaster

Inactive member

Hermantown, MN

13y 52,800 2,383 4 8

Congrats! Tales is a great game.

#19 11 years ago

BRC

Jackontherocks

Pinside member

Mesa, AZ

11y 94,300 4,955 8

OP
Quoted from markmon:
Ok I solved this. I bent the scoop so that it curves much more and. Basically, I pushed on the top of the scoop bending the top down. The opening on the front is not as tall because the scoop "roof" is closer to the playfield. Haven't had one shot bounce out since from front right or upper flipper. I also hit the scoop twice with lower left flipper (couldn't do this before) and got to crypt jam on ball 1!

I guess since you beat the game you ready to sell it to me? HEHHEHE, as the Cryptkeeper would say.

1 year later

#20 10 years ago

FOX

foxct

Pinside member

West Hartford, CT

10y 39,900 181 2

Thanks for the tip, I put in a cliffy and swear the scoop shot got harder. Maybe in my head, but bending the scoop really helped

#21 10 years ago

WLC

Pinhead76

Pinside member

Needville, TX

15y 40,150 188 47

Quoted from foxct:
Thanks for the tip, I put in a cliffy and swear the scoop shot got harder. Maybe in my head, but bending the scoop really helped

Would you mind taking a picture of what you did. I'm ordering a cliffy and the shot is already hard enough! thanks!

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