With it sitting so long I hope the batteries haven't leaked. Get the wireform TIG welded, it's for fine detailed welding which is what you need for that but remember, your chrome will be shot in that spot.

what you mean short,do they cut it when they weld it?

Hi,

I think that Paul is saying that when you get your TFTC wireform TIG welded that the chrome will no longer be present in the spot of the TIG weld. If you need to get your TFTC wireform TIG welded you may want to also have any wireform re-chromed that you had TIG welded.

Gord

Thxs Gord

have it with no chrome its just a aestethic thing or it could bring some issues after?

No chrome at the weld would be just an aesthetic issue.

I'd take a Getaway in proper shape all week before that TFTC... but if you plan on getting one machine and working on restoring it, that can be pretty satisfying too.

I don't see the door handle on those pics. Be positive it has it. If not you can forget about it. I snagged one up at a crazy price on eBay and that's the only one I ever saw in the 3 years I owned the machine and was getting alerts about any TFTC pinball stuff getting posted.

To give you an idea of what you're getting yourself into, I bought one that looked about as bad as this, and many hours and many hundred bucks later it looked like that.

Off the top of my head I head I had to buy a used translite in better shape than mine, a new coin door, a new DMD , a new plastic set, new inlane plastic guides, NOS door handle, etc.
I sanded the lockdown bar and siderails and painted them with high heat motor wrinkled paint, puttied the cab and touched it up with airbrush and frisket, polished and/or tumbled all metal parts.
Probably close to a 100 hours and close to 1500$ CAD.

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thank you for the advice and teh pics.why you take the getaway before the tftc because of the condition of it?

Yes.
Equal condition, whatever you like best, TFTC is a cool machine.

But given the the choice between the machine in the pics and a Getaway in good player's condition I'd take Getaway in a heartbeat.
Again, if you go for the TFTC, it must have the door handle, if not the price needs to come down a good 4-500$ IMO.

I own getaway and tftc.
Tftc wins hands down.
Getaway doesn't offer half the things Tftc has!

I've played Getaway and own TFTC. I'd never trade my TFTC for the Getaway.

I'm not debating the TFTC vs Getaway in equal condition thing... Just saying this one TFTC looks beat up and lots of work and money to get it in a decent shape!

It really doesn't look beat up to me. Just dusty. The cabinet looked decent, play field didn't appear to have ghosted or chipped inserts or wear at all. I'd be a buyer all day long on it. Plus the owner is willing to make a video showing the game fully functioning.

Yeah I guess the playfield and cab do look pretty good...

We all agree...no need to banter which pin is better, but this is the TFTC club page so there can be little doubt that TFTC is the greatest pin of all time! : )

Hi Chaps,

Just got around to installing the v4 ROMs, really impressed!

It has left me with 4 sets of blank ROMs I could program up for someone, if there is anyone in the UK that doesn't have the ability to program their own just let me know and we can sort something out. Postage will be cheap and the chips were one a couple of quid each on eBay. I assume I'm not breaking any forum rules if there is no charge?

Also, installed the Metal sound track onto the Pinsound board this week. I have to say, what an upgrade that is! Totally different dimension to the game! Of all the tinkering and upgrades I've done on this machine over the past 10 years, this wins hands down! It has inspired me to have a go making my own sound tracks too. Anyone else tried that?

Cheers

Cris

I'd like to see and hear a video of the metal soundtrack, or at least have more info because it sounds interesting.

Found this video though:

Definitely different. It's cool that this is a potential option, however, I prefer my TFTC with the original background music. I'd suggest just installing a 5.1 surround sound inside the cabinet for a more electrifying experience before switching out the music tracks. If I did switch them out, I'd probably only want to add the actual movie intro / outro music and have it trigger at times, and still keep the catchy rendition of it that comes with the game still intact as well.

Can anyone take a look at their game and answer this for me?

Trust me, this video does not do this justice! I have upgraded speakers on mine, the sound quality is outstanding! You can still have the exact same Legacy sound, you can simply swap using the volume pot in the coin door. I love the sound on TFTC, one of the main reasons it's my favourite game, but this upgrade does add a whole new dimension. You can easily add your own custom tracks, I'm going to have a play with that next week.

The only trouble is the Legacy voice work is very poor in comparison. I did contact John Kassir's agent to get a ball park figure to get it re-recorded and lets just say it's way beyond the scope of possibility. If it had been reasonable I would have started a kickstarter or something to get it funded, but with the ball parks quoted there is little point I don't think!

Cheers

Cris

I am almost certain that this is normal as the 'Monster Jackpot' insert on my game behaves the same way that you described and does not flash during gameplay when most of the other insert lights flash in a pattern. The excerpt below is from the TFTC strategy guide.

'After collecting the Double Jackpot, the tombstone raises. You must hit the Tombstone 5 times to spell C-R-Y-P-T, at which time the Monster Jackpot is lit. Each letter adds a ball but isn't worth any points. The Monster Jackpot is 50M plus the Double Jackpot value when it was collected, for a minimum of 100M. Subsequent Monster Jackpots are each 50M more (you must spell CRYPT again each time), increasing without limit.'

The real definitive experts on this would be Chad H. (wrote version 4.0 of the game ROM) and pinsider 'goatdan' who worked with Chad H. to fully define and test out the new ROM changes.

Gord

Thanks Gord. It just seems weird that the biggest insert of all does relatively nothing. I'll drop ChadH a note.

Sorry, my video was not good quality. But the mix really IS, such a huge difference with original bad quality sounds.
Spend many many hours. You Just need to like death metal.

I you have questions about my mix, just ask

That insert does something very important... it lights up when Monster Jackpot is lit during Multiball.

As far as how it behaves during the various lightshows, I never noticed that.

It is the most under-used light bulb in my house.

Curious to know the approx dollar amount he came up with?

See pic found this on a tftc power supply board. Replaced fuse w/ same fuse. Powered up and smoke came from board almost immediately, not sure where it smoked from. Guessing ps is done but what should I check that caused this? Machine was working prior to this dmd was not. I did a search but didn't find what I was looking for maybe someone can point me in the right direction. Thx

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I would check out the Data East repair guides. These power supplies are very problematic. I just shotgun repaired mine and got it working. Lots of people suggest replacing: c2, c3, c7, TR5, DB1, LM723 and the connectors at CN1 and CN2. It looks like you need to get those junky fuse holders off the board and replace them.

Was the DMD working then failed or never worked....is this fuse in parallel with the other fuse - were both blown?

DMD was not working, but pin played. fuse is in parallel and original fuse was shot as well. looking at condition overall of board I am getting a rottendog, i'm confused about where the wires that are soldered on the rear of the board will go. I have not gotten into schematics yet. Here's another pic showing the wires and connection. I don't know if it matters but this is a re-import (taiwan). thx

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Agreed with getting a new board, but don't do Rottendog - go Xpin....far superior....http://xpinpinball.com/product/xp-de5047/

I have the RD power supply in my TFTC - but it came that way - if I had to buy - I'd get the Xpin....that said - it looks like they hard wired that IDC connector for the GI (I think CN8?) so you'd need to re-connectorize that connection.....

yep cn8.. thx for the help

I need to rebuild both the left and right role under gates. Im going to opt for the POTC one for the right, and i have the left one.

But i need to know what other parts i'll need, length of screw and what not.

Cheers.

And don't think the old board worthless (although arguably engineered poorly), you can send it to someone like John Wart for refurb and sell - or just sell outright - it still has function/value....

That PS failure is likely why your DMD stopped working as well.....take a read of this post for more of an FYI than anything....is the DMD Cherry, Vishay or Babcock? https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/problem-with-2-new-x-pin-power-supplies-anybody-else-bought-them#post-387026

Vishay i'm headed over to read up on this link, thx

I'm officially in the club! Up and running thanks Sonic for your help.

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That looks to be in great shape.

My pleasure Ted...enjoy the manual too and wait until you get those ROM's.....also, JUST did the nylon bolt/washer trick on the sound board - now my Crypt was not as noisy as other DE pins people post about, but it did indeed reduce the noise....very fascinating.....

I tried it a well and didn't notice a difference. Do you have a pic of yours?

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/data-east-speaker-noise-ideas-for-a-cure/page/4#post-1521153

Can do, but in the meanwhile - take a look at this post... here it was done on a R&B - but its all right there....the same sound board...same bolts....only 4.... I put the washers behind the board.......yours may have been pretty quiet to start (which is a good thing) I recall some connection the PS board as well - and yours is brand spanky new....

I'm in,cleaned up real nice.
Also have a NOS spare playfield for it.
Not sure if it will go in the game,doesn't really need it.

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Looks great - welcome to the club!

If you ever want to part with that let me know. My machine certainly does need it, and I've not had any luck finding an NOS one.

Cheers

Cris

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Missing a couple of parts from my TFTC. Looking for parts 500-5657-00 (Left Ramp Roll Under Gate Ass'y) & 500-5658-00 (Right Ramp Roll Under Gate Ass'y). Anyone know where to source these parts? Thanks in advance for any and all help.

What screws do you use to attach head to shooter housing?

A smal playful test on my topper

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