I owned both. The game is decent so don't let anyone tell you it sucks

The pro ramps are slightly faster and the upper PF on the LE does not add to the fun much for me. I tie strapped the iron hide upper PF gate open which sped up the left ramp shot. I liked the orbit flowing on the LE. That feature, alone, was what made the LE more fun for me.

The pro was still fun. You can add action figures to it to make it less sparce. Put a big star scream in the back or such. Add the shaker. Add the sub (to both).

I prefer the LE. If you can pick one up for about $5000 go for it. Otherwise, I'd be in for a pro around $4000.

I'm going to debate or great or how lame TF is despite the fact that you aren't looking for that debate: it's great!

I've never played a pro, but I love my Decepticon. I always prefer the LE over the pro edition though. With the prices being what they are, I'd go with an LE as they are a great value right now.

Buy an LE before Stern updates the code and the prices go back up!

You just answered your own question. The bareness makes the Pro seem like a plank with some toys stapled to it. If you're gonna do TF, go LE.

Is the next run of Transformers LE fixing the air ball issue? Anyone knows if the fix is going to be factory installed?

They should be the same with the installed cover to prevent air balls. Not an issue anymore. I just bought a combo LE again an am stoked to get it Saturday. I should not have sold my LE to begin with.

Pro all the way. But you could probably score a Premium for a very good price. Just zip tie the gate open on the 2nd playfield and be done with it.

I went with LE instead of pro and I am glad I did. I also am glad I want the combo instead of autobot or decepticon.

I played about 10 rounds on the pro and bought the LE. To me, the pro seems barren and not much on the playfield, kinda like Costco BDK. The pro ramps are faster, but I like the orbits as well on the LE, and the extra mechanical toys as well. I actually ended up liking the mini playfield, but I realize it's not for everybody.

It's actually really simple to remove the IH playfield gate and you can see the ball better not to mention 10 times more fun to play it.

I have been kicking around the idea as 85vett. My question is what is the dif. between an Autobot/decepticon versus THE COMBO

Here is a list of all the LE feataures and differences:

http://www.sternpinball.com/Games/transformers-le.aspx

Gameplay and features are the same.

Combo has red/purple split metal trim and Autobot art on one side, Decepticon on the other. Autobots & Decepticons on the translite.

Autobot has the same art on both sides, red trim only...and a metal plaque by the right outlane w/ Optimus Prime's "signature" in Cybertronian. Only Autobots on the translite.

Decepticon has same art on both sides, purple trim only.and a metal plaque by the left outlane w/ Megatron's "signature" in Cybertronian. Only Decepticons on the translite.

Decepticon LE FTW!!

I originally bought Autobots LE. I sold it thinking I would replace it with the pro actually. Now 5 months later I want the LE back and I am getting the combo. I like that the design all matches with the playfield.

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Decepticon - Combo - Autobot
All LE. All the same game. Just the look.

there is no "next run". LE are Limited Edition single runs.

Got decepeticon and absolutely love it!! Great package!
Amazing to see 2 Decepticons within 3km in my area in Melbourne considering there are only 125 WORLDWIDE!!!

I own a pro, and i love it. I've played the LE before and I didn't like it. The pro plays faster ! and is alot cheaper
I would take a pro over an LE even if they cost the same...

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. They CAN'T re-run the LE and even if they could -- why would they? The first ones were not hot sellers and you can still find them NIB for thousands less than used Tron LE's and AC/DC LE's.

That being said, I love my combo LE. I don't have enough experience with the Pro to comment on it. For the roughly $1200 more that the LE sells for it's a no-brainer IMO.

They haven't made all 500 yet...so, there IS a next run.

Mark, Mark, Mark....why do I always have to prove you wrong? I almost feel bad about it.

Proof?

Proof is that TF sold so bad they didn't even finish making all of them :-X

You have proof to the contrary?

I'm right and you're wrong, that's my proof.

Unless I work at stern, how would I have such proof? But it doesn't make sense for them to break up a limited edition into multiple smaller runs from a financial perspective. If they didn't sell enough to make all 500 then why would they even bother at this point? It's not like demand has increased. And it's highly unlikely that they'll be able to obtain parts to do it later (or even still hold the license). So yea, when something doesn't jive with common sense, proof is warranted. Since stern doesn't publish these types of production numbers publicly, I think its fair to ask for more then "because I'm right and you're wrong".

So it's not another run but simply finishing the first run. I can accept that. They are different. Finishing the first run is just assembling and shipping the parts they have. A second run means obtaining and manufacturing more parts.

OMFG ....semantics.

They do it all the time. They did it with LOTR "LE"...250 to start, then the remaining 250 the next year.

Well thank God we got that clarified!

It's not semantics. There's a huge difference. Often, the second run of something is actually different as original parts are often not available.

Yes sir, sorry things weren't worded absolutely perfectly for your liking sir. 129025989469595199.jpg

I'd shop around a lil more as I'm sure some people may be sitting on some LE's that you could grab cheaper. I just picked up a NIB Dec. LE for 5k.

I agree. I would not pay ~6K for one when you can get them cheaper. I don't know of any distribs trying to lose money, but current owners are selling them cheaper.

Confirmed with a reputable distributor yesterday the autobot and decepticons have all been produced but they still have some combo's left to make, however it's not a lot of them like some people are making it out to be. There is also supposedly an update coming and December is the time frame. The update could just be minor bug fixes or actually some rules changes and that I doubt we will know. SM took a while to become the game it is today so hopefully they don't give up on TF yet. I know they cannot put back all the things they initially promised in the press release (sorry Greg), but hopefully they can iron out some of the kinks and make it a better game.

I found TF pro locally, NIB and I'm going for it, I didn't play the LE but I did play the pro and I really enjoyed my time playing.

I hope a new update going to come, I think its a good pin but probably not for everyone.

Awesome that you found a Pin in Dubai!

I owned a pro as I waited for my decepticon to arrive, loved the pro, once my decepticon arrived I sold the pro to a local operator, soon after I posted that the pro is the best value, I do not think you are missing much at all by going pro, however with the deals out there right now, le's for $5k seems like a no brainer. Go huo le

I like them both, but the LE wins out IMO. (in particular, the LE Combo) The playfield on the Pro w/out all of the toys looks sparse to me. The LED lighting looks WAY better on the LE's too, but of course you can add that aftermarket.

I bought a TF Decepticon last week from Michael at Flipper Fidelity that was a new but open box with about 35 plays on it for $4900 and $180 shipping. He has a NIB Decepticon and NIB Autobot for $5100 if anyone is intrested.
First time I did any buisness with Michael but he seems like a really great guy and probably get my business from here on out. Im also getting his speaker upgrade and LED backbox light kit with the TF. I placed a video link below to You Tube if anyone wants to see what a LED backbox kit does. The machine in the video is the one I bought.