This is of course assuming it'll arrive not properly assembled, break down constantly, and certain features can be removed by the manufacturer remotely should you ever decide to sell it. Then yes, it would be a Tesla pinball machine... LOL

Jeff

Um... I hate to break it to you but that's simply wrong. Also, shorting TSLA is a really stupid and I mean STUPID idea... Billions have been lost already trying to outwit that stock.

I'm about as critical of Tesla as you can get (previous owner of 2 different Tesla's) but I can promise you the company and it's cars have that "it" factor and people absolutely want that "it"... Why do you think they have a line that constantly wraps around the block for their cars and why seemingly every quarter now they're delivering more cars than before?

When I used to own them, there wasn't a place we could go without SOMEONE asking to see the car (more so on our model X then S but still)...

Jeff

Honestly, unless you've ever driven one you can't really say you have zero interest. The cars themselves are a completely different universe automobile wise. The company is horribly corrupt, and Elon is as shady as it comes, but the cars... Wow... (assuming of course you got a good one off the line but that's a completely different conversation)

Jeff

Electric is cheaper than gas, Tesla doesn't make posters, and waiting for batteries to charge is a way to say you don't know what you're talking about without saying you don't know what you're talking about...

Jeff

And an average Tesla would absolutely smoke you (even a hellcat if that's what that is, hard to tell)... A Model S Plaid+ would embarrass you. It's funny you say Tesla doesn't make something that fits your needs then you post a completely average Dodge... LOL What needs do you have? Going slow? LOL

JUST KIDDING... Hellcats are awesome cars, but you're still limited by throttle response.

Jeff

No... It wouldn't... Not in a straight line, not sure why you think that. A Model S Plaid+ does a quarter mile in under 8 seconds...

Also, battery overheating isn't nearly as much of an issue as you're making it out to be in the current iterations of the Model S Plaid+ especially with the updated track mode software.

Now the rest of it, of course I'm not going to argue steering by wire feel and all of that other stuff that makes racing what it is.

Lastly, Tesla as a company we completely agree on as it's a corrupt and shady organization but the cars themselves (yes assuming you get a "good one" off the line) are nothing short of spectacular.

Jeff

Okay I see this is pointless... Some of you refuse to accept there's nothing like a Model S Plaid Plus on the market today that you can buy at a reasonable cost (in comparison to hyper cars) that will smoke literally anything else out there, period. Oh and it happens to do this with zero emissions...

Sure the company is corrupt and unethical and still can't reliably build cars but to deny the gigantic performance boost you get is just burying your head in the sand.

Jeff

LOL back at you... As if that's the only way to generate electricity. FFS...

Jeff

I know they canceled the X Plaid +... My bad... I could have swore S Plaid + went to production but I was wrong.

Jeff

Also do you REALLY want to go over the emissions to extract oil, refine it, transport it, and burn it??? Or are stupid coal plant cheap shots really all you have? Don't bother answering, I'm done arguing although it's disappointing we still have people post this shit with regards to EVs even in 2022... EVs are going to overtake the entire market whether you want them to or not...

Jeff

I know I said I was done but I couldn't help it considering post after post from you is just spouting profound ignorance. Whether it be service, electricity generation, future prices (hey genius, economies of scale will make those things CHEAPER not more expensive) of panels/batteries, etc... You sound like a dinosaur who hasn't figure out the asteroid has already hit. 25 years...??? LOL... At the rate we're going in 5 EVs will be the most purchased power train out there... I get you don't like Tesla, I don't either and I've owned them... Oh and they're profitable without the damn ZEV credits now so you can throw that BS out as well.

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about and just look like a fool... Oh and before you call me a fanboy keep in mind I don't even own a Tesla anymore, I don't even own an EV currently. However, the future is clear and EVs are going to dominate the market. Can't wait to get my F150 Lightening...

Jeff

Only that wasn't the issue at all, but I get it fits the narrative that renewable energy was to blame. It sure sounds a whole lot better than frozen natural gas distribution systems. Plays well with a certain group of "Americans" these days...

Jeff