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Quoted from paynemic:Just saw this and was reminded that cybertruck isn’t the first ugly attempt...[quoted image][quoted image]
Sorry, but they still look good to me!
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Quoted from romulusx:Fox was a conservative network way before there was a President Trump.Would you not agree that ABC,CBS,NBC,PBS,CNN and MSNBC are strongly a liberal viewpoint?
Sam Kinison said it best: CBS stands for: Coc---cking Bastard Sonsabit--es.....
Quoted from paynemic:Just saw this and was reminded that cybertruck isn’t the first ugly attempt...[quoted image][quoted image]
I have always sorta wanted a SSR. Not enough to dump some pins to get one and give up my garage spot for my daily, but hey, I like the thought of them 
Unlike the SSR, the cybertruck's body apparently won't dent if you lean into the fenders too heavily while cleaning it . I remember "easier denting" being the trade off for the cool ass fender flares.
I don’t understand the hate for Tesla. Hell, with the crazy love for Apple and other innovative tech companies It’s crazy there isn’t more appreciation for what Tesla has done for the automotive industry. I bought my 2015 P90D 2years ago and have had zero trouble. Reliability has been great except it eats tires. My Yukon XL Denali has been a piece of crap. I also own 2 Land Rover (2011 and 2013). Bought those used. Love them but just had to put $2000+ on the 2011. I’m not a fanboy but do think EVs are the future.
Quoted from VolunteerPin:I don’t understand the hate for Tesla. Hell, with the crazy love for Apple and other innovative tech companies It’s crazy there isn’t more appreciation for what Tesla has done for the automotive industry. I bought my 2015 P90D 2years ago and have had zero trouble. Reliability has been great except it eats tires. My Yukon XL Denali has been a piece of crap. I also own 2 Land Rover (2011 and 2013). Bought those used. Love them but just had to put $2000+ on the 2011. I’m not a fanboy but do think EVs are the future.
Maybe you should think about it. It’s not the car. It’s the arrogance that comes with it.
Quoted from Electrocute:Maybe you should think about it. It’s not the car. It’s the arrogance that comes with it.
I don't understand the fanboyism, or biased hatred towards any brand. If it works well, applaud it. If somebody thinks it's crap, justify why. It seems in today's society there is no middle ground anymore.
I think Tesla makes great looking cars and they are miles ahead in the EV race. They literally can't keep up with demand, and building factories around the world. Their technology is next level stuff.
On the other hand, I think the truck is the ugliest vehicle I have seen in a long time. My buddy who is a total fanboy and I knew before it came out what his opinion was going to be. I told him, if it looked good I would get one when they came out. When I saw the reveal and put it in the no way I was going to purchase one opinion, it was like I called his baby ugly. He wants to argue about a subjective thing like looks.
Kind of like somebody defending a pinball company who picked a terrible theme.
Quoted from jimjim66:biased hatred towards any brand
Chrysler is crap. I won't buy another for they don't support their customers.
I'm biased for a reason:
Brand new 2000 Dodge Dakota bought from the
dealer off the lot. Chrysler finance.
1yr later; the truck starts dumping water on the driveway.
Take to dealer who I bought it from. They come back and tell me it's going to be like $600 to fix it. I'm like WTF; why isn't this covered under bumper to bumper warranty. They claim it's normal wear and tear. (prices are fuzzy / not exact / from 20 yrs ago)
I go get the truck. They show me the truck is leaking from the top of the engine - specifically the thermostat. I'm like: why isn't that covered; because the gasket is considered normal wear and tear item. I'm like; how can it be normal wear and tear when the damn gasket is MISSING? They just shrug and tell me effectively "tough sh1t". I pay the $200 or whatever diag fee was to get the truck back.
I drive to autozone. $3 for a gasket. $3 for gasket sealer goup. Two top bolts. Fixed. Took me 10min to install including refilling the water lost.
Why the tech couldn't do this when he was "diagnosing" the problem I don't know.
Chrysler customer service says:
"We empower our dealers to make decisions." or some such bullsh1t.
No apology. No effort to "make it right" for an obvious manufacturing defect.
The lost a customer for life that day. It's for that reason; I don't take my vehicles to ANY DEALER unless it's for a recall or a free included oil change.
Quoted from Electrocute:Maybe you should think about it. It’s not the car. It’s the arrogance that comes with it.
That’s pretty harsh. If I’m reading you correctly you accused Tesla people of being arrogant? I just love my car. And want everyone to enjoy something similar. Maybe I misunderstood you though.
Agreed. Nice generalization. Talk about someone being arrogant or opinionated. 
It’s a car, people. No need for the visceral hate.
Kitchener, ON
Quoted from Zitt:Chrysler is crap. I won't buy another for they don't support their customers.
I'm biased for a reason:
Brand new 2000 Dodge Dakota bought from thedealer off the lot. Chrysler finance.
1yr later; the truck starts dumping water on the driveway.
Take to dealer who I bought it from. They come back and tell me it's going to be like $600 to fix it. I'm like WTF; why isn't this covered under bumper to bumper warranty. They claim it's normal wear and tear. (prices are fuzzy / not exact / from 20 yrs ago)
I go get the truck. They show me the truck is leaking from the top of the engine - specifically the thermostat. I'm like: why isn't that covered; because the gasket is considered normal wear and tear item. I'm like; how can it be normal wear and tear when the damn gasket is MISSING? They just shrug and tell me effectively "tough sh1t". I pay the $200 or whatever diag fee was to get the truck back.
I drive to autozone. $3 for a gasket. $3 for gasket sealer goup. Two top bolts. Fixed. Took me 10min to install including refilling the water lost.
Why the tech couldn't do this when he was "diagnosing" the problem I don't know.
Chrysler customer service says:
"We empower our dealers to make decisions." or some such bullsh1t.
No apology. No effort to "make it right" for an obvious manufacturing defect.
The lost a customer for life that day. It's for that reason; I don't take my vehicles to ANY DEALER unless it's for a recall or a free included oil change.
I woulda called corporate and made a complaint against the dealer. But I was burned by dodge, and they’ll never get my money again.
Quoted from Electrocute:Maybe you should think about it. It’s not the car. It’s the arrogance that comes with it.
Arrogance like putting Calvin pissing On Chevy logo stickers on their vehicles?
Cmon.
Talk about a gross generalization and projection.
Quoted from Luckydogg420:I woulda called corporate and made a complaint against the dealer.
That was corporate!
Dismissive "empower the dealer" language.
Market research? Who needs it.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/elon-musk-and-the-dying-art-of-the-big-bet-11575090005
Quoted from Zitt:That was corporate!
Dismissive "empower the dealer" language.
And I'm sure they are operating exactly the same way 20 years later.
Boy, some people are serious about holding a grudge!
Quoted from DanQverymuch:And I'm sure they are operating exactly the same way 20 years later.
Boy, some people are serious about holding a grudge!
They still make the shittiest quality vehicals and have the lowest resale.
Quoted from DanQverymuch:And I'm sure they are operating exactly the same way 20 years later.
Boy, some people are serious about holding a grudge!
Fool me once....
Yeah, I hold a grudge. That doesn't make me stupid
Quoted from Zitt:Chrysler is crap. I won't buy another for they don't support their customers.
I'm biased for a reason:
Brand new 2000 Dodge Dakota bought from thedealer off the lot. Chrysler finance.
1yr later; the truck starts dumping water on the driveway.
Take to dealer who I bought it from. They come back and tell me it's going to be like $600 to fix it. I'm like WTF; why isn't this covered under bumper to bumper warranty. They claim it's normal wear and tear. (prices are fuzzy / not exact / from 20 yrs ago)
I go get the truck. They show me the truck is leaking from the top of the engine - specifically the thermostat. I'm like: why isn't that covered; because the gasket is considered normal wear and tear item. I'm like; how can it be normal wear and tear when the damn gasket is MISSING? They just shrug and tell me effectively "tough sh1t". I pay the $200 or whatever diag fee was to get the truck back.
I drive to autozone. $3 for a gasket. $3 for gasket sealer goup. Two top bolts. Fixed. Took me 10min to install including refilling the water lost.
Why the tech couldn't do this when he was "diagnosing" the problem I don't know.
Chrysler customer service says:
"We empower our dealers to make decisions." or some such bullsh1t.
No apology. No effort to "make it right" for an obvious manufacturing defect.
The lost a customer for life that day. It's for that reason; I don't take my vehicles to ANY DEALER unless it's for a recall or a free included oil change.
While not funny I sadly had the same luck with Dodge. Just a horrible company. Some time ago I bought a Dodge Magnum RT Hemi and no exaggeration if you took your hand off the wheel it would Dart to the right full on like you were making a turn. Several dealer visits and alignments finally communicated with corporate and No Joke they sent me to a Ford service center??? I asked "why would you send me there" and they responded because they could figure it out. After a long wait the Ford dealer brought me in and showed me that the front wheels were offset front to back by over 2"?? Said there is no fixing that its a design flaw. Sold that crap with 35k miles the same week. Dodge dealer said all cars do that its the arch of the road. Yeah right never had a car that did that...
Quoted from Yelobird:While not funny I sadly had the same luck with Dodge. Just a horrible company. Some time ago I bought a Dodge Magnum RT Hemi and no exaggeration if you took your hand off the wheel it would Dart to the right full on like you were making a turn. Several dealer visits and alignments finally communicated with corporate and No Joke they sent me to a Ford service center??? I asked "why would you send me there" and they responded because they could figure it out. After a long wait the Ford dealer brought me in and showed me that the front wheels were offset front to back by over 2"?? Said there is no fixing that its a design flaw. Sold that crap with 35k miles the same week. Dodge dealer said all cars do that its the arch of the road. Yeah right never had a car that did that...
Offset by 2"? Sounds like a manufacturing defect......
I gotta ask, since I work for a Ford dealer near you, where did you take it?
They sent me to the Ford Dealer on Roosevelt road in Wheaton Glenn Ellen. I believe they have since closed and its a food area now though. Really a smart bunch of guys working there. In its simplest form he stuck his hand between the wheel and fender and his whole hand fit, on the other side he got 3 fingers or less in lol. He said they Know about this issue and no alignment is going to fix it. He believes they kept skewing the front carriage to keep it from pulling right which is why I went through a set of tires (1200$) in less then 12k miles. Taped out never another Dodge. Ford and Honda for me and done.
Quoted from Yelobird:They sent me to the Ford Dealer on Roosevelt road in Wheaton Glenn Ellen. I believe they have since closed and its a food area now though. Really a smart bunch of guys working there. In its simplest form he stuck his hand between the wheel and fender and his whole hand fit, on the other side he got 3 fingers or less in lol. He said they Know about this issue and no alignment is going to fix it. He believes they kept skewing the front carriage to keep it from pulling right which is why I went through a set of tires (1200$) in less then 12k miles. Taped out never another Dodge. Ford and Honda for me and done.
That was Packey Webb-they moved to Downers Grove into the old Joe Madden Ford building (used to be where I worked until Ford closed that store), and then built a new store a little further east on Ogden Ave.
Did you buy it new? It was never wrecked? Poor manufacturing of Chrysler's part if it left the factory that way.....amazing.... Quality wasn't job one there....
Quoted from nascarrey:That was Packey Webb-they moved to Downers Grove into the old Joe Madden Ford building (used to be where I worked until Ford closed that store), and then built a new store a little further east on Ogden Ave.
Did you buy it new? It was never wrecked? Poor manufacturing of Chrysler's part if it left the factory that way.....amazing.... Quality wasn't job one there....
That was the place! Nope bought that car Brand new 2 miles on it off the dealer lot in Schaumburg. Never an accident not even a rough speed bump. That car and design was a fail from the start. Only 2 Weeks after we got it our driveway is Maybe a 1 degree slope I woke up and Three times it was literally in the street??? Asked my wife whats up and she said no I parked it were we always park. Put it in park (automatic trans) and thats it. Dealer said its Normal and you have to use the parking brake when its parked. OK?? That reply from the dealer is when Mopar sent me to Ford to fix the car... Have a Ford Flex Eco now and have yet to have it roll away or self park on the sidewalk while driving.
I had a Dodge Magnum RT 2005......by 2008 most things were breaking on it, things someone wouldn't think would break. Allow me to aloborate, 1st design flaw, the shroud under the car got ripped off the 1 st week (parking stop ). 2nd .. The main knob on the GPS fell off one day, dealer replaced the whole unit. The battery is in the trunk ( better weight distribution ), yet has an electric trunk latch. The battery dies, you cant get to the battery. I had to Youtube a video , crawl through the car, pull a plastic part off the back, then pull on a hidden steel wire with a pair of needlenose pliers to release the trunk to get to the battery. Then the Oxygen sensor , GPS craps out one last time, then the Motor mounts , then all of the control arms ( who knew there was 16 of them ). Cigarette lighter stopped working, stupid shit like this. The list goes on and on ( I counted 76 things broken ). I paid over 40K when new, traded it in 2010 , worth 4K, yet needed 6 grand worth of repairs. Real nice.
Quoted from modfather:I had a Dodge Magnum RT 2005......by 2008 most things were breaking on it, things someone wouldn't think would break. Allow me to aloborate, 1st design flaw, the shroud under the car got ripped off the 1 st week (parking stop ). 2nd .. The main knob on the GPS fell off one day, dealer replaced the whole unit. The battery is in the trunk ( better weight distribution ), yet has an electric trunk latch. The battery dies, you cant get to the battery. I had to Youtube a video , crawl through the car, pull a plastic part off the back, then pull on a hidden steel wire with a pair of needlenose pliers to release the trunk to get to the battery. Then the Oxygen sensor , GPS craps out one last time, then the Motor mounts , then all of the control arms ( who knew there was 16 of them ). Cigarette lighter stopped working, stupid shit like this. The list goes on and on ( I counted 76 things broken ). I paid over 40K when new, traded it in 2010 , worth 4K, yet needed 6 grand worth of repairs. Real nice.
LOLOL. No joke I had Every one of those things happen on the Same year car! My favorite was a simple six inch snow fall in Chicago (fairly common) and the Entire front shroud and clip ripped off like cardboard up to the headlights. That fricken car was Possessed!!! Battery in trunk and NO spare tire! lol
Quoted from modfather:The battery is in the trunk ( better weight distribution ), yet has an electric trunk latch. The battery dies, you cant get to the battery.
Not defending Chrysler.
On a 2005 and later years, (also 300's) there is a positive terminal in the engine bay. A little red cap covers the positive post. One has to use a boost pack or jumper cables. Positive on the post, Negative to a ground location. This will put power to the car. Enough to open all power locks and the tailgate. Some times the car will start, but most times the boost source has to be attached to the battery connections.
Quoted from Darcy:Not defending Chrysler.
On a 2005 and later years, there is a positive terminal in the engine bay. A little red cap covers the positive post. One has to use a boost pack or jumper cables. Positive on the post, Negative to a ground location. This will put power to the car. Enough to open all power locks and the tailgate. Some times the car will start, but most times the boost source has to be attached to the battery connections.
Fair enough but I kept my boost cables in the rear hatch lol. I don’t hate on all Chrysler vehicles but the Magnum RT was a complete Fail from day one till they finally put a fork in that product.
10 months later
Quoted from TheNoTrashCougar:I am in too.
CYBERMAN!!!
Anyone going to tune in?
https://www.gmc.com/electric-truck/hummer-ev?cmp=OLA_DISPLAY_24744758_284696370_478644821_139364631
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Quoted from jellikit:CYBERMAN!!!
Quoted from paynemic:Lioncyberman?
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Quoted from paynemic:Eagerly awaiting news.
The Hot Wheels unit sold out as well, that's all I've got right now.
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Quoted from modfather:I had a Dodge Magnum RT 2005......by 2008 most things were breaking on it, things someone wouldn't think would break. Allow me to aloborate, 1st design flaw, the shroud under the car got ripped off the 1 st week (parking stop ). 2nd .. The main knob on the GPS fell off one day, dealer replaced the whole unit. The battery is in the trunk ( better weight distribution ), yet has an electric trunk latch. The battery dies, you cant get to the battery. I had to Youtube a video , crawl through the car, pull a plastic part off the back, then pull on a hidden steel wire with a pair of needlenose pliers to release the trunk to get to the battery. Then the Oxygen sensor , GPS craps out one last time, then the Motor mounts , then all of the control arms ( who knew there was 16 of them ). Cigarette lighter stopped working, stupid shit like this. The list goes on and on ( I counted 76 things broken ). I paid over 40K when new, traded it in 2010 , worth 4K, yet needed 6 grand worth of repairs. Real nice.
You do realize that vehicles with remote batteries have jumper leads under the hood?
Quoted from The_Pump_House:You do realize that vehicles with remote batteries have jumper leads under the hood?
His post is over a Year old. Does it matter now??
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