Quoted from MrBally:
Reread my post below. While driving on I-275 near Detroit near a major junction of three freeways, the electronics completely shut down, except for the "engines" and brakes. I was about to use my turn signal as I needed to get over two lanes to enter a different highway in a mile (1.62Km). No turn signals. In an instant, the display went dark. Music shut off, climate control shut down. I could not safely operate the vehicle to exit to where I needed to go. I did not know this was a reboot when it happened the first time.
Those 20-30 seconds before the display just started to show the Tesla logo seemed like forever on a crowded highway that was still moving at 60-70 MPH (100-115KPH). This is why I asked if the headlights will stay on or not as I would not want to be driving at night in that situation.
When my "old school" ICE car has a major failure, I usually get an idiot light or more. I kinda like it when the dash board looks like a pinball machine where both the Specials and Extra Ball lights come on along with other feature lights lighting up. At least I know the car is somewhat alive. I was not about to pull the driver card out of my pocket and hold it by the console to attempt to "restart" the car. At least when it happened again a couple weeks later, I just kept my cool. I believe if this happens to more than a few vehicles in somewhat of a pattern, there could be a service campaign or worse to correct this.
I guess you got unlucky and got a bad Model 3, but believe it or not there are bad gas cars out there as well that fail without warning, they don't always show a magical dash light to let you know things are about to fail. And by the numbers it will happen far more often on legacy cars for the simple reason that they have far more parts to fail. Regardless, claiming electric cars are bad for long drives because they will leave you stranded is still a silly claim. I mean hell just driving to Vegas I'll see a dozen gas cars knocked out on the side of the road, stranded. It's not surprising, they have so many parts that can fail.
Also just fyi, you do not need to pull out the driver card for a Model 3 to restart it. In fact you don't need it at all, I only keep it to hand to valet. Just hold down both buttons on the steering, even while the car is moving, and the software resets.
Quoted from jawjaw:
??? Maybe take the tin foil hat off. I don't get why everyone has to make all of this political.
The political lean for old media channels is extremely easy to determine actually, for any channel mind you be it Fox, MSNBC, etc. As usual it's about the data. I won't get into it in detail, but look around and you'll find data for example showing how often certain topics are covered by certain channels, etc. Look at the data on a graph and it become staggeringly obvious how biased many "news" channels are, and how obvious it becomes that they have an agenda. Keep in mind this isn't just for politics, it's also to sway public opinion to their narrative on whatever topic they like, and keep in mind this mind trick isn't only done by the usual suspect channels. The reason this mind trick works so effectively on the older demographic is that they primary watch cable news. For example, the median age of viewers for CNN is 61, 65 for MSNBC, 66 for Fox. That's why that older demographic is so easy to sway and often comes across as having bizarre views not in touch with reality. This trick doesn't work as effectively on the younger demographic because they get their news from elsewhere and from multiple sources.
Quoted from jawjaw:
I also don't get why the vast majority of electric cars have to be weird, or flat out ugly looking. I thought Tesla nailed it with the Model S and kinda with Model 3. Those look like normal, functional, attractive cars. How do you go from that to some flat panel, ugly pickup truck?
Because they don't want you to buy them. Legacy auto makers make what are called "compliance cars", they made electric cars to make it seem like they are actually trying to do so to political figures and to the public. But they in no way wanted you to ever buy them. To ensure that they made they look like clown cars, saddled them with all sorts of limitations and priced they stupidly to make sure buying one made no sense. On top of that they fight to make sure no one else can sell them as well with lobbyists and money, and also they make sure to obfuscate every detail possible about electric cars to make sure the masses are fully confused and/or have false information about them. That's why in 2019 we still have people that think a Model 3 costs 100k, takes endless hours to charge, catches on fire every 3 minutes, is made by a foreign country, has only 40 miles of range, is slow, etc, etc, etc. Hell even when we had our Model X repaired at our local authorized Tesla repair shop, the old lady behind the counter commented how our car was "a foreign car. I'm not making that up, it's absolutely insane! Legacy automakers also still fight hard, successfully so far, to make sure that companies like Tesla cannot sell their ironically more American made car in America itself. They also fought hard to make sure there was no standard charging network setup around the country, that's why the current charging network is so sparse and such a colossal mess of standards, speeds and payment methods.
There's lots of reasons why they do this but to keep it simple I'll focus on one, and it's because there is far too much money to be made with the thousands of parts needed to keep ice cars running. When you buy a gas car they have you on the hook for years, because everything in there is built to fail. Sure parts don't fail as often as they used to but they got around that by simple raising the price of parts and labor to a staggering amount. Your purchase of a gas car does not end at the bill of sale, they have you on the hook for as long as you own the car, you are an atm they can pull from regularly as they know the myriad of parts in cars will ultimately break.
Enter Tesla who wasn't saddled with any of these things, and in a mere 7 years they built out an entire fast supercharging network worldwide along with cars that smoke exotics and yet run on electrons. They actually did it and as a side bonus for once we did it with a home grown American company. That's why their cars didn't look like compliance cars, because they actually wanted to sell them. As for why the Cybertruck looks so different, I explained that in an earlier post but you can watch that video by MKBHD as well, he explains it nicely.