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1 week later
Quoted from Blitzburgh99:WTB: T2 project...I have repro playfield in its way! Any leads appreciated.
location?
Alright guys made some progress the last few days digging into issues.
Game resets settings when the game was turned off- board is on its way out for NVRAM (battery holder was loose).
ROM is L-6, is it worth upgrading to L-8?
My 1-Bank Drop Target Assembly is missing A-11388-2 https://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/A-11388-2
Anything else I should order?
Thanks!
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Also the actuator guide is on the wrong side of the switch - see the diagram below the switch (red arrow) is between the drop target (black arrow) and the actuator guide (blue arrow). This stops the switch actuator being deflected sideways as the drop target falls
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Thanks for your useful help, I think it is obvious I did look at the manual but this part is pretty tough to get to and see each little detail.
Both the drop target switch and knock down work.
I will try and pull the whole assembly off tonight to see if I can move the actuator guide to the right spot.
Thanks again!
Quoted from smcclain65:Can you take pictures of what the mech looks like, I have taken mine off a couple of times and i still think its not working right. The target doesn't come up enough.
Here are a few pics.
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If you need any more let me know. I’m currently waiting for parts.
Manny65 thanks again it finally clicked at what you meant, when my new screws come I’ll move it!
1 week later
1 week later
Finally finished up my Shadow and am back on T2. Coming across a new error (not sure if it is new or never noticed before).
Switch 71,72,73,74,75 are all out.
Checked the board and made sure it was fully plugged in (it is)
No broken wires under the playfield- I see that all the switches are "daisy chained" together into 75 which then has the green-violet wire coming out.
No errors on the machines
Every other switch is working
Any advice on to where to go next?
Quoted from Manny65:Do switches #76 Ball Popper, #77 Drop Target and #78 Shooter lane work? If not then you have a whole column out otherwise it's a diode/wiring issue
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76-78 all work. I’ll keep checking wires, game is so dirty from Italy it looks like!
Thanks!
1 week later
Quoted from eyeamred2u:Have you read Pinwiki on how to jumper the pins on the MPU to determine if you have MPU issue or wiring problems?
Quoted from Manny65:How many green/violet wires are on switch #75 - there should be 2 green/violet and the yellow daisy-chaining wiring all soldered on the one terminal.
Equally the drop target and VUK ball popper switches will have 2 green/violet, while the shooter lane only has the single green/violet.
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Following back up to let you guys know that it was a broken wire (shocker I know) but it was all the way down at the 1 Bank Drop Target Assembly which I fixed a few weeks ago and must have broke it off at some point. So the drop target and switches are fixed and flippers rebuilt. Cleaning, Rubbers, and LED's to go......
Alright new issue (I feel like I should be paying shrink fees here). I "assumed" that all the lights that were out were because of bad bulbs.
Now that I started to upgrade them to LED's I noticed the CPU light were all out, started to look at change bulbs etc. and disconnected and I get this (image below) pin was stuck and came off the board, and pin is broken as you can see it missing.
A quick look online and you cannot buy the lamp board (A-14518) anywhere. I have not gained the soldering on a board yet, though I guess I could try on this. Thankfully haven't had to deal with this yet so not sure where to turn next.
Appreciate any leads/ideas!
IMG_7972 (resized).jpgQuoted from eyeamred2u:It is an easy fix, don't over think it. Desolder that hole location and clean that pin up and push it back in.
Yep, I am overthinking it but I am still missing another pin so I need to order something anyway. Then I can give it a go.
Quoted from Manny65:More than likely you had a cold solder joint (the solder was cracked around the pin) and hence why all the lamps were out on that board. It's a 4 pin header on that board - parts list show it as 5791-10871-04 "4h spl sq pin .156"
You might be able to solder the pin back in or simply replace the whole header however I can't find the exact same part and not sure the which would be the best replacement (there are various .156 headers). I think this would be suitable https://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/CM15604
Thanks as always for helping and pointing out solutions!
Well I feel like the thread is all about my machine lately and tonight I was finishing up the underneath LED’s before I fix the CPU (machine off) going well.
Turn it back on looking for LED’s not working and the start button something is up, well I don’t turn the machine off and you can see below the result.
I looked at this thread and pin wiki and figured it out myself unfortunately. Looks like find someone to do board work or pop my cherry. Ohh I shot this “shot” to drown my sorrows!
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Thanks,
Pete
Ministry of Pinball is where I ordered from a few months ago. $31
1 month later
Quoted from Pin_Fandango:Following up on another subject, the power junction box was a real mess.. This is what happens when people with no brains put their hands inside a game?
No thermistor, live wires inside the box and now to top it all off, the plug wires were slit --- A short just waiting to happen ---
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Another thing I noticed is that the wiring was reversed at the fuse: neutral going to the fuse and hot into the line filter. The picture I had uploaded previously (taken from Pinwiki) shows a different wiring diagram ---> hot to fuse, neutral to line filter.
I presume the PinWiki photo is correct but can someone confirm this so I can wire mine properly?
I thought my T2 was bad but man yours seemed to be a super prime hack example! Good Luck and stay with it.
I am hoping by next weekend I will be able to update with everything we fixed on mine so that it has some historical written history.
Quoted from Pin_Fandango:Do you guys know if anybody is refurbishing the Gun Handle? Mine has been repainted by the previous owner but the metal is scratched after many years.
I have seen some old posts of someone here doing this work, but I tried to find it again and could not. It is somewhere there in 170 pages.
But wondering if you guys knew?
I got Mine powder Coated locally for $70, he wasn’t keen on doing chrome though.
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I have the game at 6.5 degree.
Raise the back legs higher? Add something to soften when it hits?
1 week later
Quoted from daveddd14:Anyway to stop the ball from bouncing back out of the skull when you flush the shot with the right flipper?
I have the game at 6.5 degree.
Raise the back legs higher? Add something to soften when it hits?
Tried both of these things and didn't work.
Does everyone's gate swing both ways (sorry to get personal, haha)? I am thinking that might be the problem?
Quoted from Manny65:LOL no that's a one way gate and this is probably your issue
Yep, I found post 4850 which explains the differences which is why I deleted the second post. Time to tear is back apart again and see if I put the wrong one back in its place or if I can steal one from another spot. I hate to pay another $20, plus shipping, plus wait to get it corrected.
Quoted from Manny65:Below is what the gate looks like - the leg of the wire on the left side (shown with the red arrow) stops the gate swinging the other way and consequently stops the ball bouncing back out like you are experiencing. If you gate swings both ways, then the wire must be broken - you could buy some wire make a replacement one[quoted image]
This helps a ton, I started looking through the images for exactly this. Also great idea about making a replacement, I can probably make something work.
Appreciate it as always!
Quoted from daveddd14:This helps a ton, I started looking through the images for exactly this. Also great idea about making a replacement, I can probably make something work.
Appreciate it as always!
Update, I fixed it with the metal park of a chip clip (I kid you not). Fit perfectly around the gate to keep it from going to far in either direction.
Quoted from peteyhugs:Looking for a set of slingshot plastics. The ones with the tan color not grey.
Thanks,
Pete
This is where I ordered mine from.
https://www.ministryofpinball.com/en/terminator-2-slingshot-set.html
1 week later
Quoted from RGAires:Hello to all count me in,
Im going to restore a T2 in the next weeks, ive got one with a nice playfield, and is working almost 100% (have some bulbs and flashers off) not a big deal i guess.
Where you can find best skull version? Inside Europe if possible.
I have in the buy list...
T2 Skull
T2 Hunter Ship
Realistic LED Eyes for T2 Pinball
Terminator 2 Target Decal
Terminator 2 Slingshot Set
Terminator 2 Plastic 31-50013-16
Terminator 2 Plastic 31-50013-19
Terminator 2 Plastics 31-1-50013-14_15
Terminator 2 Hunter Ship Wire
Terminator 2 starpost set
New Set of Rubbers Transparent
New Leg Levers
Playfield Protector
Cabinet Leg Protector SET (Black Color)
What more is a must have on this machine?
Thanks
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Here is everything I bought, from where, and how much (US).
Slingshot Plastics (Ministry of Pinball) 31
New Rubbers (Titan) 42
LED's (Comet) 139
NVRAM Installed (PS) 25
L8-2 ROM (PS) 16
New Balls (Ball Barron) 10
Metal Decals Pinside (Flashinstinct) 28
Pin Shoes Light Blue - (Coin Taker) 28
Flipper Rebuild/Posts/Brite Eyes (Pinball Life) 74
TERMINATOR 2 (Williams) Hunter Ship (Marco) 36
Misc. Bolts/Gun Fastners (Marco) 53
Dave
2 months later
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