Just recently joined the T2 club! Super pumped it's one of my favorite games of all time!

PeterG haha u and I think alike, next game without a doubt would be CFBL, to me that game I could play all day!

Also here is the restoration topic I started for those interested. https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/t2-restoration

Pretty pumped on this beautiful brand spanking new T2 playfield I recently received!

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tezting Taxman yup I'm fully aware of the insert swap, it's just 2 and honestly doesn't bother me, I was willing to make that sacrifice to get a Brand new multi cleared T2 playfield. Plus the price was right and makes it unique . It's from buthamburg (Germany) https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/terminator-2-judgment-day-repro-playfields-pre-order-open

@alexsmendes, ya changing the decals is really not an option as it's under a ton of clear coat, I would have to remove the insert. I know it's not perfect, but it's purely cosmetic... I have been toying with the idea of putting this one on... and getting the old one restored by HEP, and then swapping back at some point

This ahmedreda ? ebay.com link: 2Terminator 2 T2 Pinball T1000 Interactive Chrome Edition mod

rx3 Oh I was aware of it, to begin with, and I paid accordingly for the PF. Thank you for your concern, but he is a great seller and was super nice to work with, this was a "factory blemish" if you will.

PeterG ya sorry the photo was in bad light it's actually color accurate.

But wait a minute... which inserts? I just did a side by side and the only discrepancy I see is the insert colors being swapped on the left orbit - green and orange - unless I'm missing something.

PeterG wait I see what you are saying, wow, and this was not disclosed to me... I was told only the 2 in the orbit this is really a bummer. I swear i have been getting taken advantage of left, right and center lately in this pinball world

Ya this really sucks, it's. It like I got "that good a deal" I still paid over 730.00 good lord

I mean between this and getting scammed for 2700.00 on a T2 I've about had it

Yes at the end of the day once it's in I know it will be awesome, it was just one of those shockers I was not expecting. I must say though Peter at Buthamburg has been a total
Pleasure to work with if he ever makes more playfields in the future I would work with him again.

Malenko switching the wiring could be an option, but keep in mind on the insert colors are swapped , not the labels...

Took 3 passes, but the coin door lock bar damage is all fixed! Smooth as butter

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Thanks, TheOnlyest I like to take my time, and I'm learning in the process which is fun! The back box had some top and bottom corner damage which is always a challenge to work on but I think it came out nice ill post some pics

Had some fun with my new Long nose stapler today! Ground wire all in

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So I pulled apart the power box because I'm getting it powder coated, should I replace this since I have it apart I think it's the emi filter???

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TimberOne I reccomend retro refurbs RetroRefurbs as AlexSMendes mentioned. Their decals are top notch quality, and hey have amazing customer service. I used them on my pirates restore and they are awesome. I am going with them as well on on my t2 restore. Here is my build thread as im documenting a lot of the work https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/t2-restoration

TheOnlyest You should get tracking sent to you within about 5 days... I think they print them on demand, so the majority of them may not be "in stock" if you will. I ordered my T2 ones, then about a week later got the tracking info. You can email Pete he is usually really good about responding: [email protected]

its one of a kind

Arnold punched this terminator, battle scars

Pete can do that! As I had to order just a coin door for my POTC, but I agree having that as a purchasing option would be super

From my perspective I am thankful for retro Refurbs... if it was not for them finding decals would be both painful and about double the price...

For example the amount one would pay for a decal set for Indy is roughly 280.00 I think ... the originals are 450++ so th savings on that alone seems to make the purchase of a whole set appealing?

Additionally I'm pretty sure selling what ever is left over would not be hard. However I totally understand both perspectives

Just my 2 cents

My T2 , when it's done, will probably
Never leave my family.

Oh here is a little sneak peek at some of the amazing chrome work from Chris at pinball plating that will be going on mine. More to come!

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Malenko ya I would use http://www.pinballlife.com/, I just ordered a full set there. The total was roughly 83.00. Basically, I always check Pinball LIfe first, then go to Marco, the prices are way better.

You will need 6 white and 3 red of these:
http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=313

And 3 red of these: (I have 3 brand new ones I can sell you for a deal)
http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=1256

I used all pinball life target on my POTC and those targets get smashed constantly, i have had zero issues... I actually dont even know what the difference is on the "reinforced" ones.

Chitownpinball Interesting, thank you for sharing... So check this out! Looks like Pinball life's targets are in fact the reinforced ones, I just installed these last night, see the photo below

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Got ya, and yes these are the side targets, not center. And ill see how they fair, if they explode ill rebuild them or get new ones

Looks great Cdonnerusmc are any of those lights UV?

Well, things where going great then I went to install the c clip deals,,, cracked the surface such a sad day

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Anyone know why T2 flipper coils use 2 return springs?? One on the plunger and one on the switch arm?

Seems to me it's a little excessive and prevents full range of motion.

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Schwaggs that someone was me... I was basing it on how this was previously constructed as I rebuilt them. Thank you for hr input!

NIce! Do the lights flash or are they solid Litedpinballmods

Ok all T2 owners need your help. I somehow missed getting a tight picture of this skull area during the teardown. These 2 dimples, a screw of some kind goes in them and I know it has to do the plastics... but I don't what specifically. Any help would be awesome!

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Thanks Schwaggs I imagine there is a post support the screw goes though though?

Pretty proud of my wood patching skills, not bad for my first time! smooth as can be

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So I'm just about finished the playfield on my T2 restoration. I have wondered what this metal guide really does... I mean its attached to a plastic in a single place, in which the plastic is very common to break. I can't really see any benefit except for some redundancy to prevent the ball from flying into or out of the back of the skull. I'm going to leave it out and see what happens.

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Fezmid here I just ordered a Decal set and it comes with 2 cannon decals, i can sell you one. Brand new it from this: http://bayareaamusements.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=DC-AP-T2-2

Need your help fellow T2 owners. I'm in the psogress of putting one of tre harnesses back In And my label fell off these two.

One is the other end of the flipper switches, dunno what connector it goes to

The other I have no clue, single lead in a 4 slot connector black solid thank you

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ahmedreda you could repaint it! Testors model paint makes a flat silver or you could do
Gloss. May be a fun project

Im making my own airball protector for the hunter-killer and I figured I would share the file if any of you want to have your own made. Just take it to Tap plastics or any plastic shop and they should be able to cut it for you. I'm using a semi-pliable 3mm thick plastic.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mr7pg7nx5iahymx/Hunter_protector.eps?dl=0

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Hey, guys just got my T2 up and running for the first time post restore, and everytime I press start (one time) it auto adds 4 players?? Where in the menus can I change this?
Thanks!

AlexSMendes not bad I think over all the colors are very desaturated. You specifically can see it in the areas that should have more of a "pinkish" hue but appear more orange. Compare to the attached image

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Just replied to you AlexSMendes this is getting very close. I did some color sampling and looking at a lot of plastics. I think this is now a little too red. I'm assuming he used the color PANTONE SOLI COATED RED 032C for the pinkish red. THis is a tad bit too red. I was proposing to use PANTONE SOLID COATED 710C , it is more in the pink color band. THis is important as too much red and they will not be UV reactive colors.

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Great point TheOnlyest ! Did not even think of that. Have you ordered from pinball resource?? Wonder if theirs has the white backing?

Huye T2 Owners, are many of you adding floodlights to light center of the playfield??

Walamab exactly what I was after, I have a dark game room, on purpose, so I was going to put 2 spot lights on the slings

Blitzburgh99 I just bought one in cali that had mpu board damage, pretty serious cabinet damage, playfield was decent, gi worked, end good, I paid 1800. I'd say don't pay a dollar over 1k based on what you listed. If you have. It seen the boards I would assume there is alkaline damage

Blitzburgh99 I literally got the last repro playfield, they are decent, really soft clear coat. My recommendation is have HSA restore it... will take about 3 months but that is by far the best option. I think there are plans for another run of repro playfields see here: https://www.pinballshop.nl/playfield-parts/playfields/terminator-2-t2-playfield/ but your looking at more $ that just restoring yours

She is almost done just trying to resolve a F114 fuse error

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Great idea snakesnsparklers !

Awesome maffewl such an awesome game!

Thanks TimberOne are u referring to the decals? Or the powdercoat on the apron?

thewool is the start bulb and led? If it is try an incandescent. If it is an led make sure the bulb is non ghosting

Hey T2 folks would anyone be so kind to post a picture of the power driver board? I am in the process of debugging an issue and want to make sure I have all the wires connected correct

nicknack66 I went all natural white (cool white) and cyan, I think it fits the theme well!

Hey maffewl I’ll have a HSA restored T2 playfield I’ll be selling when I get it back if your in need of a PF. Ironically I have a playfield from Pete on my newly restored T2. Mine was a blem and the last one he made. They are super nice, but plan on pre drilling a lot of the holes. On mine the clear coat is pretty soft.

I would not put it up against an HSA but they are darn nice and Pete is a Stellar guy.

tezting interesting points. And I agree with a lot of them.

In my case my old playfield (that went to HSA) was in amazing condition to begin with. No bondo needed, healthy wood, no planking, no raised inserts, really could have been used as it was.

As a collector, I would always chose an original, but that’s just me and that’s because like an old car, I like keeping them as original as possible. That does not mean that my opinion is fact for every other person In This hobby.

There are tons of advantages of repro playfields. One being color. Newer printing techniques and the fact a new pf is well new, the colors are un faded.

I’m not saying one is better than the other because that’s in the eye of the beholder.

Your right tezting and I’m an offender myself, my recent T2 restore has chrome ed decals which some people cringe about. My goal “keep as original as possible” which in many cases means new stuff, that is not “original”. I think the playfield is the holy grail of any pin, so there could be an argument that the playfield is different than swapping boards or a cabinet out.

In the end they are your pins, and no one should determine what you should do, and should not do to them except you

Not to beat a dead horse here but you can fold down the backbox without keys, just an FYI

Not intending to continue this, but just for clarity the back of a t2 just has a latch holding backbox on, unlatch boom, fold down.

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Schwaggs that makes sense none of my Williams games ever had them

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jgadzia not saying this is the only answer, but I installed a happy switching power supply in my T2, so I can power any 5v and 12v mods. I re wired my service outlet to turn on the additional power supply with the main power.
15 Amp Arcade Switching Power Supply 110 Watt, 110/220v for Video Game Cabinets Including Upright and Cocktail https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00F1YQDBA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_LureAbJ9ZW417

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Mine had clear too and I used clear with red rubbers looks nieece

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Blitzburgh99 I ordered them from pinball center in Germany, I just tried to find them and looks like maybe they are out or not making them Anymore. I have seen others too that read T 8 0 0

Taxman yup noted

ypurchn snakesnsparklers I spoke with Pete actually last night. So they are having some Bally Williams issues due to PPS / Copyright. They are in the process of getting a license to put them back on the site, but no guarantees.

tezting that is correct, sadly. snakesnsparklers that's incorrect, they are Copyright having issues.

Cant we all just get to the choppa together here

Ypur plastics look great AlexSMendes I cant wait to get mine!

tezting yes this behavior is odd. I have worked with Alex quite a bit and he always seemed very cordial, so im totally at a loss here?.

ahmedreda sounds to me like you may have a bad switch on the gun. Take a look at it and manually move the flap that activates it and make sure it’s “clicking” every time.

I’ll actually agree to disagree a little. I used a lot of ice blue in my recent restore.

IMO ice blue is perfect for this game. Really embraces the theme and is not super satuared like most blue bulbs are.

Best is, just get some colors and play with them. I have a bulb tester I swear by and that helps me test and determine colors.

Taking pictures of lighting is always tough. Here are some pics

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Here is a 2smd natural white in upper left corner, ice blue in lower left, and blue in lower right.

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I’m in the process of trying to dial in a newly restored T2, and the cannon is not moving far enough home so the ball is not able to enter th canon, need help on how to adjust thank you so much!

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Thankss for the reply @blitzburgh99. Yes I did that and I realized the home switch was working irregularly. So I replaced it and now we are good!

Well this weekend I finally got fire up my Freshly restored T2, Plays awesome! Had to make a few minor adjustments to the cannon, and the lunch Guide and it was playing great. I only got to put about 20 games on it, but it was a blast.

Sadly this morning I go into my Pin room to clean them, and I look down and my T2, my heart just about broke... My brand new Reproduction playfield has started ghosting in a major way. After countless hours and $, to walk in and see this was very rough to put it lightly.

I'm sure the first question is: where did the playfield come from. It was from Peter at buthamburg. Now I don't want to come off negatively towards Peter, He is a stellar person to work with and I know he will make this right. Others have this playfield and I have not heard of any issues, so I'm thinking it may have just been my luck.
tezting
Its also a good thing I send my Old T2 PF to HSA, as its looks like I may actually have to use it.

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I was having this issue recently, I reflowed solder and re-connected, and its all good now

So contacted Peter, what a great guy.

He is sending me out a new Playfield ASAP. I really am astounded by his amazing customer care. He has been an absolute please to work with, and he truly does care, he is a real human. I would have absolutely ZERO reservations in ordering from him in the future. Buthamburg

Probably going to have to wait a bit to install it as I really don't feel like tearing the whole thing apart again. Very thankful that Peter is taking care of this for me.

Bugsy yes I am sending it back to Peter. However I will have my HSA restored T2 playfield back next month, and I’m not going to keep it so if you’re interested let me know

I have a Chevy Tahoe, and pinball machines fit in with plenty of room, what kind of suv?

LCD is a wise choice, I have an lcd in my Indy it’s amazing!!! I have an led in my pirates, it’s nice... bright as heck, but the lcd has way more configuration options, and overall looks better imo... however the downside is you lose the true “DMD” effect

TimberOne just out of curiosity what made u change your mind ?

Hmm, sounds to me like a short somewhere in the matrix... like a gray wire touching something it’s not supposed to... or maybe a diode issue? I had something similar and I followed the matrix around and found a wire touching a light

djreddog when u lift your playfield start at any point on the harness, there is really no science (at least my method lol) and look close at switch solder joints and lights , the goal is to make sure nothing is touching something it should not be. Kinda just search and discover type of deal.

If ur super skilled with a multimeter prolly a better way

jibmums yes! They should have washers and metal spacers

Hey guys, need your input. I recently restored a T2, and I'm realizing the back lock... basically rejects the ball id say 95% of the time... its basically useless. I started looking closer at the eject mech and noticed the eject cam arm is super long on my back lock... but not on the left lock, which mind you work perfectly.

Is it possible the back lock has the wrong cam arm... another thing I'm going to try is moving the ball guide back and maybe lowering the saucer, do others have issues will ball being rejected in the back lock?.

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Hey guys I need your help... I can’t get H sound to stop on my T2 when it’s just sitting... every time the T2 logo comes on it does the slam noise... I turned off attract sound dis nothing??

That’s what great about pinball, there are no rules for what is “right” or “wrong” when it comes to aesthetics. We, the owners get to put our own twist on our pins. Personally I like the stock look on aprons. But that’s just my opinion

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Hey guys question, I have FF speakers in my T2 I’m getting a lot of static noise in general and a low hum through the right speaker?? Any idea was I supposed to reuse the blue capacitor from the original
Speakers?

I have templates I recreated for Bally/ midaway / and Williams I have been making them for fellow pinsiders, PM me if you need some!

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I use a vinyl that can be used in an inkjet printer, also going to be laminating mine as well

This discussion is hilarious

Just checked HSA's status list and looks like my T2 is done!! Pretty excited I got this in before Brian stopped doing restores. Can't wait to see it
http://www.hsapinball.com/HSA_PINBALL/hsa011318t2.html

Question for you guys... on launch the ball is not hitting the center hunter killer target or something because after the ball is launched and hits one of the targets they keep cycling as if they where never hit.

Only thing I can think of is that th game is programmed only for the ball to hit the center target on launch... as it should, but if it doesn’t nothing is registered so thrbhunter targets keep cycling???

Thanks PinballManiac40 already had done the switch test sorry should have mentioned that, switches are fine

Hey guys, so any of you with a buthamburg Buthamburg Playfield notice they forgot to pre-drill a main GI hole...This is my second one and it too does not have the hole drilled.

This can't be by design, as the original does have this hole drilled

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Finally got my mirror blades in, they where only in the closet for like 5 months haha

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This restoration was almost the end of me... right after I finished about 120 hours of work, I played the game once and the playfield ghosted like crazy. Thank got Peter Buthamburg was very helpful and promptly sent me a replacement playfield. So after another 2.5 days of speedy work, I can say its finally done. Came out amazing, plays even better.

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