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Tell me something to check ...EM newbie

By MT45

5 years ago


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#1 5 years ago

Got a Twin Win that keeps scoring a thousand points once the ball drops in either the left or right saucers.

Where do I start?

Vid says it all

#2 5 years ago

I'd look at a schematic and see what switches have to all be made to score 1000 points, and then try to figure out which one doesn't open up and keeps the scoring going.

LTG : )

#3 5 years ago
Quoted from LTG:

I'd look at a schematic and see what switches have to all be made to score 1000 points, and then try to figure out which one doesn't open up and keeps the scoring going.
LTG : )

Thx Lloyd and will do

#4 5 years ago

I went looking for a copy of the schematic but can't get at my files right now. That said, I'm going with the either a unseated or corroded Jones Plug between the playfield & Insert (bottom) board or a switch/contacts on the relay that energizes when the ball goes into that kickout hole is not making contact.

Or, the one that pulses once on the score motor is out of adjustment. Usually one of the top switch blades on a taller score motor stack got bent out of adjustment due to an errant shirt sleeve.

#5 5 years ago
Quoted from MrBally:

I went looking for a copy of the schematic but can't get at my files right now. That said, I'm going with the either a unseated or corroded Jones Plug between the playfield & Insert (bottom) board or a switch/contacts on the relay that energizes when the ball goes into that kickout hole is not making contact.
Or, the one that pulses once on the score motor is out of adjustment. Usually one of the top switch blades on a taller score motor stack got bent out of adjustment due to an errant shirt sleeve.

Thank you sir. Will check these as well. I think I have a complete schematics that came with the game

#6 5 years ago

I would look at the ball eject solenoid to make sure there aren’t any loose wires. Then track back from there to find out why that eject solenoid isn’t being fired.

#7 5 years ago

When either out hole bouns zeros out, the ball should kickout. Since this is affecting both out holes, I would suspect something down stream..like Mr Bally suggested. There is a crappy copy of the schematic on ipbd that shows the switch is on cam one(closest to the motor), but I can''t read which level. Clean those jones plugs too.

#8 5 years ago
Quoted from bonzo71:

When either out hole bouns zeros out, the ball should kickout. Since this is affecting both out holes, I would suspect something down stream..like Mr Bally suggested. There is a crappy copy of the schematic on ipbd that shows the switch is on cam one(closest to the motor), but I can''t read which level. Clean those jones plugs too.

Yep, The cam closest to the motor usually has the tallest stack of switches. It's the easiest one to get messed up by a shirt sleeve, cord from a soldering iron or multimeter leads.

#9 5 years ago

I'll need to see a high quality scan of the schematic from (for example) Staples ($2) or Kinkos ($6)

#10 5 years ago

I took a look at a video of a working Twin Win and found that the 'left and right bonus'/'ball kickouts' work independently. There should be two stepper units, one for the left bonus and one for the right bonus. There should also be two relays, one for the left bonus and one for the right bonus. If you don't find any loose wires on the ball kick-out solenoid, then find the relay for the left hole. One of those switches might be out of adjustment. Also, there should be two switches on the score motor switch stacks for the left and right kick-out solenoid as MrBally mentioned. Edit: There is only one switch on the score motor for both eject solenoids. I'll try to find which switches to check.

#11 5 years ago

The schematic shows only one switch on the score motor for both solenoids and they are called the green hole eject solenoid and the yellow hole eject solenoid. That switch is 8A. You can find the two solenoids at F-38 and F39 on the schematic.

#12 5 years ago
Quoted from Pecos:

The schematic shows only one switch on the score motor for both solenoids and they are called the green hole eject solenoid and the yellow hole eject solenoid. That switch is 8A. You can find the two solenoids at F-38 and F39 on the schematic.

Wow! Talk about specific guidance. Thanks.

I'll chase this down and report back

#13 5 years ago

What happens when you put the ball in the green hole (right hole)? Does the green kick-out solenoid fire and the ball is ejected? If not, then switch 8A on the score motor needs to be cleaned and adjusted AND/OR there is a loose wire(s) to that switch. If it does, then a switch on the yellow relay is your problem AND/OR the yellow kick-out solenoid is not getting power either from a loose wire somewhere (Jones Plug, the solenoid itself or somewhere else in the circuit) or a dirty Jones Plug. There may be something else I have missed. Please let me know if none of this brings you joy.

#14 5 years ago

Super special thanks to Pecos for his help. He traded multiple PMs with me to help me fix the Twin Win.

On top of that he was spot on that the issue was switch 8A.

I learned a bunch too!

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