I had over 110mil on my very first game... until the owner accidentally aborted the game with the new end game feature :/ We were more like 30-50mil after that. Gonna go play some now

Oh I totally forgot that guy... pretty sure that didn't help the cause AT ALL. Guy couldn't see it though... dumbass..

If I understand it.. it's not about getting more.. but about what your slider is on when you start multiball. The display shows a line of toppings and as you hit stuff, the series moves to the right. I think the 5 highlighted when you start Ninja MB are the ones you get.

No idea why people would make that comparison... except because they don't play them?

Yes there are common elements (cross PF shot, MB heavy, etc) - but they play nothing alike and you don't approach them anywhere near the same. I have both in the same room... don't feel anything TRON about TMNT.

TMNT is more casual friendly... you can spot things from the turtle choice and easily get to a MB or modes. Modes have good feedback on what to do... multiball is good and chaotic for new players.

TRON is brutal and hard to get going. TRON doesn't have the media feedback to guide you through like TMNT does. TRON doesn't have all the dynamic lighting TMNT does. So for casual players I'd put TMNT over TRON all day long. TRON is a players game... it is about the challenge to go far and capitalize on things.. and to play with a great soundtrack pumping. I have a fully decked out TRON and love it... but its for me as an advanced player. Wife and kids won't touch it.

TMNT is a bit more traditional with modes... easy multiballs... and more approachable.

Probably the only TRON thing I've thought about in TMNT so far is that foot combo is like EoL jackpot... people who can't do it right think it's pointless... advanced players will milk it for a ton.

TMNT pro feeds the flipper shot in three ways... the Van lock, the orbit and the ramp drop off.

Problem is the orbit is blocked by the post more often than not.. so much so that often when it does let it go by during a plunge for instance.. you aren't expecting it and aren't ready.

The ramp drop makes the feed inconsistent... I really wish that drop was in the orbit at the back, not down into the feed.

The van lock is the only one that feeds like the quora shot in TRON. It will either release balls if the lock is full, or can pass the back through pretty quick when the van isn't lit.

The way the game feeds the upper flipper is one of my gripes with the game. Honestly the most reliable way is to shoot the left orbit and let the post stop the ball and it feeds back down to the flipper.

Nerfed the bonus? Boo... thats where the payoff was for a good ninja mb. Ninja plus lots of pizza from ball play... ive had up to 26mil bonus.

If installed properly, you use small wood screws. So you have small #4 sized holes in their wake.

How suitable they are for a game really depends on the example... some cabinets are just tighter than others. You can use inserts to cover them when lifting and moving the PF.

It's because the ball is literally being dropped off the ramp... and has no space/path to settle it along the guide rail. It's an artifact of the design not to drop the ball before the orbit turn - which would have served to guide the ball to the rail. Even if the ball dropped off limp.. you'd still get randomness.

It really makes the upper flipper shot a lot harder...

balls are released into the left orbit.. roll down to the flipper which is held out.. and feed to the magnet. They spin and then are released. Can get a ball fed from the plunger that comes around and you can get a shot at smacking the balls locked on the spinning magnet too

1) the action button for launching is a huge benefit for non-pinball people. Stern and the pros know this
2) you can select your turtle just fine on the pro and do the skill shot... it's called holding the button.

Rejects? Are you talking about when it stops the ball so it feeds back to the upper flipper when you have center ramp objectives lit?

I'm still trying to figure out what you guys are even talking about in terms of struggling with...

Switch turtles with flippers... plunge or hit the button
Want the orbit bypass... hold flipper button before plunging

What combination are you trying to do and failing?

Points can be great. Hit the spinner to build foot base value.