Quoted from Thunderbird:

Both ramps are definitely meant to be backhanded. I backhand both of them all the time. Safest way to shoot them. Backhand LAIR as well. Table set at 6.5 and level side to side.

Quoted from daveyvandy:

1987 code is on the latest version released by stern.
I would not use any modified code while on insider connect though.

Quoted from cabal:

when you try to write a complete SD-Image:
in general you do not open the downloaded images. you need to unzip them and you will have a .raw file.
there should not be something to buy when writing the code. You would write the image to a SD-Card (best a new, clean one) with Balena Etcher or win32Diskimager to the SD-Card.
after writing on Windows it may show some driver letters that you can not access after writing the Image to a SD-Card. You just should leave them alone, do not format them or do anything with it.
There is only one drive "Boot Stern" that you may read.
hope this helps a little bit

Quoted from cabal:

do you have a pro or prem/le?
you try to update the full code on a new SD-Card?
you download this file from the server -> turtles_le-1_50_0.Release.8G.sdcard.raw.zip or turtles_pro-1_50_0.Release.8G.sdcard.raw.zip
then you unzip it to get a this file -> turtles_le-1_50_0.Release.8G.sdcard.raw or turtles_pro-1_50_0.Release.8G.sdcard.raw
you put your SD-Card with an adapter or card slot in the computer.
then you write the file with a software like Balena Etcher or Win32Diskimager to the SD-Card.
After writing your computer may show several drives that you can not access. You would just leave them alone and just remove the usb-card from the computer.
Then you replace the sd-card with the one in the game. If you have an insider connected you may have 2 sd-cards in the game. You would switch with the bigger one, not the mini version.
Then you replace the SD-Card with the new SD-Card.
or do you try to do the Game-Code update that should be done with a usb-stick?
then you would have this file: turtles_pro-1_50_0.spk.zip or turtles_le-1_50_0.spk.zip
you would unzip them and put them on an usb-stick that you stick mainboard.
I have do admit i have never done this, so i can not get into deepter detail.
please give some more information if what i descriped is how you do it? then we can try to help you better.
-> reread everything and i am rethinking, you seem to do the update via game-code/USB.
maybe try another usb stick. Look if it is formated right Fat32, fatext or Fatx. Not NTFS

Quoted from BaxterStockman:

Have you tried doing a completely fresh install on a different SD card like Cabal suggested?

Quoted from cabal:

have you used the same stick for other games?
another test could be to save the highscore and settings to the usb stick. If this works it at least shows the usb was recognized.
the sd-card method is sometimes tricky too, but another way. And you have always a way back to old sd-card if you use a new one for your update.
Hope you get it working.

Quoted from cabal:

i haven't seen a commercial version, but you will find in the thread some solutions how people have done it (me included).
There are some people i guess who would go for a commercial version waiting for something like this.

Quoted from Glockshots:

Made some building inserts for my speakers lights, changed out T-molding and added more ooze. Going to order IC and install on the coin door.
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Quoted from JonCBrand:

Back in the club. I feel like I bailed out before code was far enough along. Insider Connect kit on hand but not in a rush to install. Cliffys on order.
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Quoted from pinballaddicted:

What is wrong with the code?
I think it is sone of Deights best work. We love ours.

Quoted from System-J:

The disc, the right ramp and orbit for sure. The disc might be higher on tmnt and ramp lower. Definite similarities though. I'm not a fan of twister but the mb start is fun. Having the balls drop from the ramp (sky?) is a bit cooler than tmnts flipper ski too disc.
...
No thoughts on my rule tweaks anyone? Is everyone else happy with the code so far?
After a day of tmnt borg-ing me I've been trying to figure out another way to make the game a bit more friendly. ...out of the box that is, so no homebrew mods or tweeks because most operators won't do that. ... anyways, the only thing I can think, software wise to cut down on the frustrating left outlane drains is to have the April ball saves accumulative. So each extra ball save you get from April targets or mystery pops would be kept in memory. This could accumulate so that both lanes could be lit at the same time (especially if the slings change lanes) or if Dwight makes the flipper lane change default and just keep one side lit but kept lit if one is on que.
...just (another) thought.

Quoted from bicyclenut:

Added this today. Love my new shooter rod.
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Quoted from bicyclenut:

Added this today. Love my new shooter rod.
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Quoted from bonesjustice08:

sup, I got a turtles pro, am I in the club now?

Quoted from Mr_H:

That is awesome! What a moment that would have been!
Any alpha on TMNT that he dropped? Did he mention Dwight being locked away working hard on a code update?
With Stern only making 1 cornerstone this year, I'm quietly hoping Dwight is working on a code update that includes rescoring.

Quoted from Delta9:

Im in just grabbed a prem
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Quoted from Thunderbird:

Code could use some needed updates, however.

Quoted from Mr_H:

Go, go , go Xaqery start planning for it! Get it up on the current code update project list in the office!
Get the bugs squashed, update the scoring system to be more in lined how other pins are - higher scoring, more rewarding shots etc Having this table for progression and scoring would make this one of the best!

Quoted from RipleYYY:

well, as said by "few", Munsters should be a top 10 game, while TMNT should be top 5...
(take this with humor)

Quoted from Tommy_Pins:

New update, looks like they doubled episode scoring!
PRO V1.53 - SEPTEMBER 12, 2022
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**** FIXED ****
- Fixed the Achievement "A Team of Heroes". It will now give the achievement
after completing 4 episodes using all four shots.
- Fixed the Achievement "Team April". It will now award correctly if you
complete an April Hurry-Up during the Team-Up wizard mode.
- Fixed The Cooperative Achievement "Team Work Silver". In a three or four
player cooperative game, if a player completes the 3rd consecutive Weapon
Hurry-Up they will now collect this achievement correctly.
**** TWEAKED ****
- Changed how many times you need to train to enable Neutrino Pizza Party from
three to one.
- Doubled all the scores from Episodes.
- Reduced how fast Ninja Pizza Frenzy growes per switch and reduced the cap
from 10K to 8K per switch.

Quoted from Collin:

Yeah, this is a pretty consequential update.

Quoted from DNHansen:

I use the start button to start a new game after ball one. It'll keep the ball in the shooter lane, saves time. I haven't experienced anything odd doing that, I mostly use Michelangelo. I'd recommend emailing Stern though so they know.

Quoted from BowlingJim:

Grandson playing in his Halloween costume. He is only 2 but he loves playing. Well let’s just say he loves beating the crap of the flipper buttons.
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Quoted from RipleYYY:

that's now a long time you're fighting against the top 100 (mainly because pins are not classified as YOU would like to see them)
i understand & agree some of your points, and disagree with some others
you wanna explain us that or its all black, or its all white... but what about in between ?
in fact i remember how much you were upset (including some of your fans) when i posted about Munsters, and saying it is a good pin, but not more than that... while you were saying its a top 10 for sure (some of your fans were even saying top 3 if i'm not wrong)
now, what's the point with TMNT being 45th ?
you love it ? than forget all the rest & enjoy, things are simple...
PS : i still have to learn (and get home) TMNT, but for the few i know, i think its a good pin & i will surelly enjoy it

Quoted from drinklime:

Spent a few weeks finding the right figures and touching them up, all the turtles and shredder line up with their inserts. The only problem is now I can't stop and want to add more
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Quoted from CypherPinball:

Anyone have any pics of the mezel mod glider mod from the player perspective angle. Thinking about picking it up. But, on the premium I think the glider blocks too much. Can barely see extra ball insert. Also, any pics with a TMNT Polly pockets added to glider? I think if I do get the glider, would need to get a figure to go on it.

Quoted from wolffcub:

The factory flasher that was in the red cap has two possible locations. One is in the building so when you hit the spinner the building flashes a bit thru the windows.
The other option is a housing that is mounted on the plastic angled to the face of the building. This layout is a cool effect. [quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]

Quoted from mannymasy:

Hello friends, I have a purchase planned for the month of December but I have doubts between tmnt and gotg... I have had gotg in the past and we enjoyed it a lot at home, now I have the opportunity to buy a new one of the latest production. I have doubts between these two machines, turtles I have never played it nor do I have the possibility of trying it but from the videos I have seen it seems very fun. I would like to have a comparison of the two machines on playability, durability, fun...etc... greetings and thanks!!!! It should also be said that at home I only have one machine that is AIQ premium now... it is a hard machine and difficult to advance... at least for me...

Quoted from wolffcub:

I will have a batch of them done soon.

Quoted from NovaCade:

Any update on these? I’d love to get one for my TMNT

Quoted from freddy:

When wolf is ready you will know!

Quoted from freddy:

When wolf is ready you will know!

Quoted from wolffcub:

I am almost ready to post up the official thread for the Pizza Parlor and the Channel 6 building. Should be up later in the week.

Quoted from dboeren:

I think I remember reading Dwight saying he wanted to do another update but who knows when that might happen. If not, I’m happy with what we have.

Quoted from RipleYYY:

which big change do you want to get with the scoring ?

Quoted from Thunderbird:

Congrats on a steal of a deal on a TMNT premium. You did quite well! Can’t believe it went for that low. CC is an old nice shooting relic of the past, but you might go to a place and shoot it more. Everyone I know that has had CC, gets rid of it after boredom sets in. I wouldn’t make this statement in the CC club thread, but can here in our TMNT club. Its a bore fest with such shallow code with not much to do in the game compared to a deep player like TMNT. CC was made to plunk a few quarters in for 10 minutes of fun, but not for long term home ownership. TMNT on the other hand was made for HUO, with many ways to play the game, with 4 choices of turtles and multiplayer extravaganza. CC has none of that and is quite simple after hitting Black Bart only so many times and seeing the train move a few inches right and left. Not much else there. Strikes and spares is more fun, because of the premise of the game. Houdini is a tough shooter, because of tight shots, but you probably already know that. It does have a lot going on in the game although.

Quoted from Thunderbird:

Yes, still have Munsters and will never sell it. Such an outstandingly coded game, with awesome ramps, etc. Another outstanding Borg/Dwight game pinside bashed early on and now people are finally discovering its awesome too! Try and find one, TMNT will be the same phenomenon. Prices will rise on TMNT soon, now that its out of print and the naysayers discover its so fun!

Quoted from System-J:

Is it OK to like both?
Ropp eventually did a great job on the gotg code (here's hoping 007 gets that treatment), but I really like the focus on the ramps on tmnt. In gotg you can avoid them I find, which if you're playing safe is smarts as they can be frustratingly tight--in tmnt you are forced to hit both. I agree that gotg has more balance score wise, but rules wise I'd say tmnt is more balanced as for shots. You are almost forced to hit every shot in the game to progress. I'm still fine with the mb's being the kingmaker in tmnt, especially since you have to play through the modes to work towards more. But team up's score needs to be doubled and the training value needs to go up too. And there's lots of small things to tweak the scores, but I doubt stern will give the team time to do it.
All this said though, yeah, gotg feels more finished code wise than tmnt. I'm still holding out hope that a big score balancing update comes. There's still a few bugs, so let's hope they get fixed together.
A code update is a ways away, imo. I'd guess at least a 1/2 year after Dwights next game is released (venom this summer? (I was hoping for back to the Future, but rumors seem to be set on venom :/ ). ...anyways, I feel tmnt *could* be one of the best sterns of this Era. I just love that the npmb and team up are different every game. My strategy changes based on what perks I get. Keeps the game fresh. Love it.

Quoted from Jon9508:

Sold my tmnt pro over the weekend and pulled the mods from it. I have a krang mod, mezel glider mod with mini rahpla in the seat. Pinmonk color lens for the 9 bad guys and the turtle power insert.
Pm if your intrested in any or all.

Quoted from RipleYYY:

132M is nice for sure
as example, few weeks ago, in an "insider" tournament including more than few good players, as we start to play, i directly put 117M with my 1st game on Turtle, and that was not beaten for the all day (2nd place was 83M if i remember well)

Quoted from bossk4hire:

Yes they are legit.
I'm down here in SC and many folks down this way buy from them and Classic Game Rooms in GA.

Quoted from FatPanda:

My best so far is 20 something million...and I had to work to get it. Besides the common strategies of bringing modes into MBs, what else should I be focusing on? I still don't know the half of what I'm doing. I know that left and right ramps relight modes at the Pizza Parlor? Maybe? Lol
Scoring is so low. Even my wife yelled out "Cmon Dwight! Don't be so stingy with the points!" LOL
I don't need inflated scoring or anything but man, when you're used to scoring in other Stern games and you walk up to this one, it can seem like an uphill battle.
I still really enjoy shooting it though. Still can't get the timing on that side ramp.

Quoted from dapperdan24:

New code drop for lots of machines including this one. Anybody comb through to see if there is acting more than insider connected updates?

Quoted from IdahoRealtor:

Awww. Did your feelings get hurt when your balls drained so fast? Poor baby. Perhaps you should try coloring, or adopt a kitten.

Quoted from hiker2099:

Not sure if Dwight S. will read this but please put some form of shots being spotted in TMNT. I think it would make for deeper game play and I might even be able to complete the Cowabunga mode.
-suggestion: added to turtles with maxed out training. Could also award it for each April hurry-up.

Quoted from WombatPinball:

I do agree that the scoring is unbalanced for sure. It’s just too multiball heavy. I mentioned this to Dwight but unfortunately it does not look like TMNT will be getting the scoring balancing that it deserves. If I’m not playing to achieve cowabunga, which I typically am, then I’ll be focusing a lot harder on the multiballs to amp up that score. Especially because I do not have insider connect where I can save my turtles progress. I typically use Mikey anyways but I know Raph is really where the points are at. I still love this game and the theme. It’s a keeper and the only way I see my pro ever leaving would be if I made the decision to upgrade to a premium.

Quoted from Tommy_Pins:

I haven’t really played in a while, what’s the issue with scoring? Didn’t they adjust it so that modes are worth more?

Quoted from NoSkills:

Thanks, I dismissed Munster as being too easy previously but that’s kind of what I’m looking for now I guess! I’ve played a premium before and found the lower playfield to be a bit of a gimmick so you’re right the pro is probably the way to go for me.

Quoted from Crewey:

Hi - I'll shortly be taking receipt of a PRO.
Does anyone have an example of the below mod fitted, or recognise where this originates please for me to locate further fitting instructions? Thank you
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Quoted from Jblock22:

Hey turtle crew! Just got my very first pin, a TMNT premium! Super stoked and have been trying to run it through the paces when I've had time over the last 5 days.
What advice does anyone have for a new TMNT owner?
Some things I'm wondering / have noticed:
* that left out lane (the borg lane) is a doozy. I've seen people put a silicone dot on the left wall which apparently eases it up just a little. Anyone tried this / have thoughts on it?
* what are some must have mods? I'm thinking about picking up pin stadiums for Christmas.
* what machine settings are you guys using for flipper and sling strength? I toned down the flipper power to 225 for left and right as the ball was just jetting all over the place and out of play. I also took the sling power down by 25 but might adjust them a bit lower even.
* power settings for top left flipper? Just standard? I'm almost of the mindset that that flipper might need a little MORE power where as the main ones need to be tweaked down.
*anyone have issues with your right ramp? I notice that about 20% of the time the ball either goes half way up and hits something/rejects (haven't figured out what it's hitting exactly yet) or sometimes hops right off of it so that it doesn't count the shot.
*I have downloaded the 1987 and Scandell mods but haven't gone about trying to load them into the machine yet. Can I literally just pop the files on an SD card and put them in the machine or do I have to set it all up using some type of 3rd party software? Also, does anyone know if those mods that were created for 1.55 will also work with the new 1.56 update or will that make them incompatible? Staying on code mods, has anyone had problems with insider connect and using them? My wife and I really enjoy having IC on our machine.
* Any other thoughts, tips, tricks you have to bestow would be awesome!

Quoted from brzezicki:

Someone mentioned they added pinstadiums to their tmtn. I though tmnt was already bright enough but I ended up figuring what the heck let’s add some light and see what happens so I made my own custom pinstadiums using a design I modified off the hurry up pinball instructions. I like how it turned out[quoted image][quoted image]

Quoted from System-J:

It's not you, it's the team-up scoring. It sucks and makes no sense why it's so low. Even if you argue that it re-lights the multiballs, you still have to work your way back to those too. It's just so frustrating because it's such a great mode, like possibly my favorite in all of pinball but even if you have episode multipliers, it's still low scoring. Team Up is such a favorite of mine that I can get 60mil on level 1 training and still feel like I failed if I didn't get to team up. The perks for it are so much fun to mix and match too.
...anyways, yeah not you, Team-Up is ridiculously under scoring.

I have never agreed with all caps more. THIS! Please, for the love of all pinball, please Dwight pester your boss for some time to tweak this game. Maybe get some outside help like Raymond for recommendations on making this game more balanced scoring for tournaments (the reduction of features in 'tournament play' isn't enough). You've done such an amazing job on so many things on this game, especially the theme integration of the code, like the April Hurry-up. It's so close to being your best game--at minimum though, it need some scoring tweaks to be great.
(Separately, it would be nice to have a bit more depth too, like add more pizza slice modes like what was hinted in literature when the game was released, but yeah, some score balancing is what is really needed. Team Up needs to go way up, foot 123 could go up (spinner doubled maybe?), some more immediate points for leveling up so that I don't curse every time I hit the Lair (although, thematically I guess that works, a raising of the percentage might work to, 5 or 10 percent to the existing 10). ...I'm shouting at clouds here, aren't I? ...

Yeah, coil setting is fine on stock for most. My gauge is if you can backhand both ramps. I had mine at 6.5 for a while for that sole reason, although the outlane drains decrease if it's a bit steeper it seems. I currently have mine around 6.8 and I can backhand both still.
Some people like to mess with the top flipper power. I think every game is a bit different. Just set it up and play if for a few weeks and see how it feels.
I think that is most recommended out of the box is to reduce the trough eject power (feature adjust #11 in game settings). Factory is like 240. I have mine at 160 and it's fine. Apparently the trough can take a beating and wear out sooner with the overpowered factory setting.

Quoted from Stebel:

Leave the scoring right where it is. The score level is proportional for the entire game.
What is the rationale behind across the board increasing scoring?
Would you like this game to be scoring in the trillions?

Quoted from briyau15:

I’d be down for an “enhanced scoring” setting where the default is No so those not interested can maintain their current scoring.
I’m more of a progression guy myself for home use play but agree TMNT can be depressing when I look up after what I think is a successful Multiball to only get 2m points