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Quoted from delt31:the code is not the clearest on what's going on.
The same can be said for EHOH and JP which I both own. But, it's part of pinball to figure things out.
Rob
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Quoted from Chalkey:The lock shot cannot be back handed as far as I can tell. The under-flipper shot is deceivingly tricky and ends up bouncing out a lot.
Actually it can be. Jack Danger did it once on his friday night stream. Although it's basically threading a needle.
Rob
Quoted from shaub:Thanks for the clarification Dwight (and Chuck). Ive gotta say, that dual spinning disc has grown on me a lot since the initial reveal. It might be my favourite feature addition on the premium, even more than the diverter.
The 2 direction wheel is one bigger reasons I went with the LE. It has a higher element of randomness to it I think. Are you getting one Shaun?
Rob
Quoted from jeffgoldstein2:If you play as Donatello you start the big multiball on your first shot up the right ramp. I feel in general the game is to multiball heavy. Especially with Donatello. In general with the rules as they are it is just to easy to get into multiball.
I think it's good for new players to have easy access to a multiball. Lil DeadPool multiball is similar where it's very easy to accomplish. My non-pinhead friend, she loved getting that multiball on DP. Of course it's different in a home environment where you may not want a multiball that easy, so the alternative is to play a different turtle then.
Rob
Quoted from Rydhia:Anyone else’s left insert on the apron not lighting up? My + and - were mixed up and I had to re solder the two on the LED board. Not sure how you don’t notice that part is out during QC, then again, it took me over 24 hours to notice.
I had the same thing with an apron LED board wired backward on my JP. It shouldn't get past QC, but it does. The pro models don't have the lit aprons so maybe the testers aren't used to checking those lights all the time.
Rob
Quoted from ABE_FLIPS:LEDs can flicker from factory due to cheap led sockets, had this on 2 machines. especially the lights under the inlane guids.
It's usually not the sockets, but the bulbs themselves. They just don't hold up against the vibration of the flippers and the resistor inside of them probably breaks. These sockets are mounted right under the flipper plates and not simple to get to. I wish Stern would fix this long standing issue, if it can be fixed. I hate flickering LED lights under the inlane plastics. Replacing the bulb fixes the flickering - for a while anyhow.
Rob
Quoted from PinMonk:How do you test switches with the game turned off?
While it still 'works', I wish Stern would phase out of that legacy settings design into something better and easier to use. No more abbreviated settings text and split all the coil power settings into their own menu tree. There's a lack of consistency for system settings between games where some might have flipper power adjustments and others don't. Testing switches in Spike 2 has always been a PITA because there was no option to turn just the coils off for testing kickers, pops etc.
Rob
Quoted from Potatoloco:I promise last video. The easiest way for me to give a heads up to current or future LE / Prem owners that are unaware of this isue. I've talked to over a dozen owners now that have had the same issue with the turtle van diverter. Some of them have one that doesn't close all the way. Hopefully they can head this off at the Stern factory before sending anymore out.
2:10 into the video if you want to see an example of what is happening.
That is a fairly easy fix if it does become a problem. When you buy an LE, you are also an early adopter and sometimes adjustments will be made for later premium runs.
- The Elvira LE I bought came with the updated skill shot ball guides attatched to the top of the shipping box.
- I just received an update for the TRex ramp on my JP Premium. I never even requested this, but my distributor got them and provided me one.
Rob
Quoted from Jared:If you have an issue with your machine please let your dealer know, or call tech support at 1-800-KICKERS.
I phoned 1800 KNOCKERS one time... It wasn't Stern Support.
No peep on my LE yet.
Rob
Quoted from Jared:Picked up LE #84 from public location 1 tonight. 130 plays in 3 days.
The playfield is is super shape, the game still looks basically flawless with the exception of some super minor playfield indentions you can only see under a fluorescent reflection.
My diverter HAS been making contact with the rear ramp wall, though I would have never looked for this or known if not for this thread. I documented in photos, and sent to engineering directly as well as a few other photo and video examples I’ve seen.
If the fix really is as simple as a nut adjustment i’m sure a service bulletin will be issued. I’ll be making that adjustment myself tomorrow.
The damage taken to the rear ramp in 130 plays is superficial (scuffs) and in a non visible place on the game. All the same, I’m sure it’s something they never designed to happen.
As for the game, I’ve left it in a new location at a brand new arcade in Rowlett Texas that just opened on 6/12. They were trying to open on 1/1/20 and had been delayed until March. And then, well. You know. Now they are struggling to have consistent business, and bills are coming in big.
My hope is that my TMNT LE can help them pay the bills, so I’ve loaned it to them instead of bringing it home to join my collection.
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The way my brain works, as soon as I read 'super minor playfield indentions' I was singing it to the TMNT theme song in my brain. 
Rob
Quoted from kh39540:When I was a slot tech at a local casino, it wasn't uncommon for the wires to get knocked off of those interlock switches (we called them cherry switches). The machine would think the door is open... I have no experience with this on the these new Sterns, just a thought.
Since the game is launching balls, I don't think it will be the interlock because then no coils woould be working.
The first thing to check is all RJ45 connections on the node and cpu boards. Then check all other connections including the ones in the backbox.
Rob
Quoted from HookedonPinonics:We are currently having an issue with our Turtles. Every 10 seconds the back half (prob 30%) of the playfield goes black and seems to cycle thru all the lights. Anyone else encounter this. Pulled the playfield up to see if any loose connections but don't see any. I can post a video of what it is doing if that will help.
When this happens, go into the service menu and node board diagnostics to see if there is an error message. It almost sounds like an overcurrent situation where maybe a lamp socket is shorting against something. Check all the lamp sockets in the upper half of the playfield and make sure the leads are not touching anything else metal.
Rob
Quoted from HookedonPinonics:This is what we are dealing with at the moment. We have emails with Stern trying to fix the issue. Our back lights are going out every 10 sec and you can hear the glider diverter trying to move. Makes a clunk noise and the lights go out and do a flicker. In the test menu when you try and test the glider diverter the lights will go out and then flicker back on. I guess the game will be down until we get a replacement board.
I hope you get your game back up and running soon! My LE finally arrives at the end of this week.
Rob
Quoted from billrz:My LE arrives on Saturday !! Yo here in Canada . First LE in Canada maybe ? Super excited !!
Mine finally arrives thursday or friday. It fills a spot vacated by Luci. 
Rob
Quoted from SpidermanDan:Has anyone noticed the lights going out during team up mode? The lights will go black right after hitting a shot in team up and battle again won’t always light either. I couldn’t replicate in any other mode expect team up. Bug maybe?
I have not got that far - yet! Which character, or does it matter?
Rob
I disassembled the pizza spinner gearbox and liberally re-greased everything in there with white lithium grease. On my game it was so obnoxiously loud before, even with the glass on. Now it's much quieter and smoother sounding. The gearbox is easy to work on, but you need to make sure you do not misplace any tiny shim washers that are inside.
Rob
Quoted from BENETNATH:Agree, bad things happens in all manufacturers.
For now, all i can say is that Turtle is a really good shot, but that's by far the most brutal pin in my collection.
I enjoy that, but it's not as family friendly as i was hoping.
The metal bar separating the two left inlanes keeps poping my ball to the outlane, I may end with a small tweak to solve that but not yet sure about the best way..
I wouldn't call TMNT 'brutal', that is a designation I save for JP because of the tight shots.
I have yet to have an outlane bounce from the lair release. What pitch do you have your game set at?
Rob
Quoted from konghusker:How are owners feeling about this game long term as far as depth? Looking at tmnt and jp2 as my next game but want one that’s going to be challenging long term. Opinions on pro vs premium on tmnt also?
The upper flipper shots add an element of extra challenge with the game. I'm happy to see Dwight added individual difficulty settings for each mission. If you think one is too easy, make it harder. I have not tried that yet though 
Rob
Quoted from BENETNATH:I've increased my pitch, around 7.5. That helped a lot for the global flow and did not impact my outlanes drains.
It's getting better eaveryday, but the targets on the left ramps are really nasty. It reminds me a bit of the valinor shot on LOTR. a strong shot at it, and blam, directly in the outlane without any way to nudge..
I don't know how you measure the pitch, but I have mine around 6.9. I changed the flipper strength to 'soft' which really isn't that soft, but tones them down just a little bit which I find great!
Rob
I had mixed feelings about the diverter, but I actually kind of like it. The jet woosh sound is great! I've barely scratched the rules in limited play time, but am really enjoying my LE so far. The layout is fun and the upper left flipper really adds another level of challenge to the game without being frustrating. Light show, sounds and LCD display are top notch! Dwight has also done a great job programming the game!
Rob
Quoted from billrz:Has anyone successfully remedied the grinding pizza motor ? On the LE, it’s loud and sound pretty bad,can’t be good. Started after like 40 games or more.
I just posted several messages back about this. The dc motor that drives the pizza wheel has a small gearbox on the end of it. I disassembled it, cleaned the gears and re-lubed with a liberal amount of white lithium grease.
Sorry, I didn't take any pictures of it disassembled, but here is where the gearbox is located. For anyone that disassembles this, please note there are a few very tiny shim washers inside. It is not difficult to disassemble and reassemble. Make sure the pizza spinner is level with playfield when done.
I know what the grinding sounds like and it can be very loud. This will remedy that completely.
Quoted from sirlonzelot:Also I don’t know why sometimes pizza multiball is 3 ball and sometimes 4 ball multiball. It didn’t shoot always a ball from the shooter lane.
Each Gummy Bear topping adds an extra ball to the multiball.
Rob
Quoted from ABE_FLIPS:xaqery
Short feedback on the Sounds.
There is plenty of clipping (distortion) on FX sounds and Splinters call outs. Those seem to have too much bass frequencies, leading to clipping. Especially when played together with FX sounds. So better equalizing/mixing is really needed here!
Thank You
If you have an LE, make sure the speakers have not switched back to 4ohm after the last update.
Rob
Quoted from ABE_FLIPS:Thank You, i have the Pro model, 1.10.0 code and factory settings (8 Ohm).
I thought the pro model had 4ohm speakers? I could be wrong.
Rob
Quoted from PiperPinball:Anyone having any issues with their node boards after installing the new code update?
I don't think 1.11 had any system update so node boards would not have changed. But, there is possibly a bug if you leave the coin door open as the game powers up you will get a node boards missing error. So, don't have the coin door open when you turn on the game, or pull the interlock switch.
You could also be a bit more specific as to what you are alluding to? I have not had any problems with my LE.
Rob
Quoted from Xaqery:As you can see the number of wins goes from 800K to 5.5M. When I first thought about those numbers that seemed good. But now I think I agree. Its really hard for me to win more than 3 episodes on the really rare times I get to Final Battle.
I am thinking about these numbers:
Xaqery Do you generally win and lose the same episodes?
I haven't kept track of what I win and lose, but I might start just to see if I have patterns here
Rob
Quoted from Bmwdrummer:Ok... So I finally got the correct LE 1.11 code installed as a Full Install. Now I am getting the scores ending in non "0" numbers. This definitely does not seem correct and the matches now do not work. See pic. Anyone else notice something like this?
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I have not seen this on my LE, but I'm sure Xaqery will know where the issue is. It's ironic because Lyman had the same kind of bug in Elvira recently and it was from the Trailer Trash mode.
Oh I know why I never saw it. I downloaded 1.11, but got so busy this week I didn't install it.
Rob
Quoted from cooked71:So apart from the diverter, the only other gameplay difference between the pro and PreLe is the ball lock?
No.
Bidirectional pizza spinner
Krang toy that is synced to his speech
4 ball instant release from the van
Ball lock in the Lair during pizza parlor multiball
Glider scoring
No top lane skill shot
The truth is, the glider is there to use as much or as little as you want. There's no need to fast switch it between shots because you are not building combos like in The Shadow. For glider scoring, it also does not need to be switched until you want to try to collect the points. It's really irrelevant to say how fast the game plays affects how useful the diverter is.
Rob
Quoted from nitroman28:8 ball is to many as the 6 in the pro is already a handful. Anything over 3 and you're just slapping balls around until the ball save runs out and you get it to a controllable amount of balls.
The purpose of having 8 balls is staging 3 balls in the van for immediate release after the 4th is locked. It's not about having an 8 ball multiball.
Rob
I don't know about anyone else, but I wish the modes scored more points. 25,000 or 35,000 points per shot really just doesn't add up to much, especially when some modes don't really need many shots to complete. In contrast, the big points seem to be nestled in the April Hurry Ups as those can be very lucrative. Maybe multiply mission scoring by x4 or x5? Or is that too much then? I'm just thinking out loud to see what others think.
Rob
Quoted from MutterFudder:On some modes/screens, my screen looks like it has a few dead/stuck green pixels. It's not all the time or on all the screens, so I don't think I actually have dead pixels, but I'm not sure if it's in the software or not.
I have seen this too on my game and it looks like green stuck pixels on the lair graphic. On other screens they may look like white dots. I was almost convinced it was my LCD, but now I am not so sure. Sometimes the dots are there, sometimes not. Always in the same place.
Quoted from kell:Unboxed an LE yesterday with a build date of June 26th.
Has some pooling on both sides of the apron and at the LAIR star post. Playfield looks okay, however, it does looks a bit grainy. Not as bad as others that have been posted, but I'm questioning whether it a bit.
I think you need to stop worrying about it on your LE. It will tarnish your enjoyment of your game.
Rob
Quoted from MutterFudder:Thanks for taking the picture -- I was having issues seeing the dots in the photos I took. But mine are in the exact same spots. Hopefully something they can look in to.
If the dots are in the same exact spot, then it's obviously not bad pixels on the LCD. It's not related to 1.11 because I did not install that on my game. I started with 1.10.
Rob
Quoted from Navystan:So, I took advice of others to use a shooter plate to protect diverter hitting ramp. Now, I just need the right type of double stick tape. It seems the best would be something similar in thickness and strength used for Clifffies. Anyone have any idea what type and where to get? Thanks.
Carpet tape would definitely work. That stuff is paper thin and sticks like no tomorrow.
Rob
Quoted from ABE_FLIPS:I have the sound bug too, but its not just at the skill shot. stern is already investigating this issue.
I did not notice the pixels, but i dont look often on the screen
Are you sure your LE backbox speakers are set to 8ohm in the utilities?
Rob
Quoted from Napoleon:Some of the ending animations need to be tweaked.
For instance, regardless of whether you finish the defeating Baxter's mousers or not, Baxter still gets zapped, even while Shredder is praising him for good work.
Another example, when failing to finish the "See You On The Other Side, Ray" episode, Splinter is still rescued.
Baxter deserved it either way
Rob
In an effort to eliminate (most) airballs from the Dimension X targets, I have angled the targets forward about 5 degrees using a simple method which requires no bending or modification.
I placed a shim washer under one edge of the target bracket as shown below. It's not a big change, but I hope it helps. If it doesn't, then I'll either need to add a bit more angle or come up with something else.
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Quoted from durgee7:Anyone else having to wait over 1 minute before the tmnt logo appears upon powering on the machine? I unplug my machines as a habit. Not sure if that makes a difference. There's been a couple times where the game didn't power up (after waiting 1 minute) until I flipped the power switch a second time. As long as it's powering up, I'm good. Just thought it was odd.
I had this happen once, but the logo was showing on the screen for over a minute. Then the game seemed to reboot and was fine after that. You could try reloading the SD card with a new image downloaded from the Stern site. Or even try a new SD card.
Rob
Quoted from Hewitttech:So the LE is my first pinball. I noticed when I got it the right ramp sign had been in contact with the glass during shipping and rubbed scratches into the glass coating. Not a huge deal but also thought the sign looked a little bent. I have played it a few hundred games now and it has been fine but just had the ball kick back from what seemed like the right ramp gate wire. I started looking at and noticed the ramp plastic is cracked where it mounts. I don't know if I just never noticed it or it happened while playing but I don't remember seeing it last week when I cleaned things of ball crud. Maybe it was overtightened and the ball hitting it made it crack? Is this something that would be covered under warranty? I have no problems working on and fixing pins but just curious what the best thing for me to do would be...
Send pictures to your distributor and see what they can do for you. Since it's cracked right where the sign mounts, it could be a problem later on.
Rob
Please check out this video and let me know if you have noticed anything similar. What happens is that I'm getting what sounds like audio feedback from the spinner motor and also the upper left up post when it' energized. It's a 'beeping' type sound which repeats very fast. Also, when trapping balls during pizza parlor multiball, the spinner stops when instant info shows and it shimmies as seen in the video. This only happens in PPMB so I have no idea why it does that.
For reference, I have an LE.
Quoted from NoQuarters:Update to post #2390 regarding bumper rubber added to reduce number of left outlane drains -
Update Results : After adding the bumper it has evened out Left and Right drains.
The next 104 balls played - 16 left, 17 right, and 71 center drains.
Looks like this has worked. Has cut down on ricochet type drains on the left side ....
(Previous tally before bumper 64 left, 19 right, 151 center at 234 balls played)
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To be honest, I don't think anything was wrong with your previous numbers. The right outlane is just very forgiving which means the left outlane is always going to have higher numbers. If the left outlane was nearly the same, or higher than center drains, then I think that would need some adjustment. I never checked, but I wonder if the left post can be lowered?
Rob
Quoted from SpidermanDan:Really disappointed to see how far Turtles fell in the rankings.
I expected a fall from #1 given history of new machines on pinside, but I think it is still a few spots higher than where it fell.
I never look at the rankings. I only care about what I like...
Rob
Quoted from ABE_FLIPS:The game is so hard, its just frustrating every time. I made i to the wizard mode two times.
Brick shots everywhere, just tell me one save shot... not even talking about the left outlane.
The code makes it not rewarding and with all those hurry ups interupting episodes (sound) i do not feel connected to story.
What i also really miss is the kinetic satisfaction, not even close to JP2 or DP. I want do FEEL the game.
I am sure the game will drop down the top 100... I really wanted to love this game. I will wait for the next code update but you cant fix physics, just code.
just some info how you get the Extraball (super boring)...
Take Michelangelo plunge around the orbit hold up the upper flipper and the ball will hit the pizza target, let it drain.
Ballsave, repeat. On the 3rd ball shoot the ball lock, plunge around the orbit again and get your pizza slice, repeat until multiball.
Everytime you lose a ball make the orbit plunge and collect a pizza slice. you can only collect in between modes.
with 14 slices you light your EB... boring but the extra ball will help you for mode progression.
I don't think TMNT shoots that hard. Shots are not as easy as EHOH, but not as hard as JP. A friend and I played on the weekend and the game crushed us both. But, I know I can and will do better.
You're not supposed to reach wizard modes every other game. If you did, then you might be unhappy about it being too easy?
Rob
Quoted from BallPin:Not only it is grainy, but Slash's face has lines going down the left eye and left side of his nose as well as the corner of his left chest plate. Unacceptable. I was drawn into TMNT pin because of the art and the theme. I'm not a big fan of the pin itself, but would buy one because of the amazing art and I don't have a three flipper machine. But because of these quality issues, I'm staying away from this machine as far as possible. There really isn't anything special about this machine. No interactive toys on the Pro, no mechs, just ramps and orbits. Pretty simple and plain. It's the art that makes this machine attractive and they can't even nail it.
It sucks to see some people getting games where the playfield art is not printed as well as it could be. The real question is whether Stern will replace the playfields or not. I suppose very soon we will hear how that goes.
As for saying TMNT has no interactive toys, did you forget about the pizza spinner WITH magnet? Or the pizza parlor physical ball lock? Lair shot? Ball stoppers on ramps and orbit?
Rob
Quoted from chuckwurt:Go to the feature diagnostics. It’s probably there. Should have a turtles symbol on it be be right next to the standard diagnostics.
Also, you don’t have to have the coin door shut. Just make sure and pull out the white interlock switch so it clicks. That will act like the door is shut.
Unfortunately there isn't anything in there for the pizza spinner. The best way to test it is start a multiball.
Rob
I'm still getting a lot of airballs off the standup targets. I am going to try using a thicker closed cell weather stripping foam on the targets. I've already angled them forward slightly with no improvement. The airballs are bad enough to hit the glass or fly out of the cabinet if the glass is off. The pizza spinner is level with the playfield.
Rob
Quoted from Yoko2una:I just learned that you can't qualify Cowabunga and not have played Final Battle on Ball 3 for the same reason. I just played a 4-player Co-op and got Aprils early. On Ball 2, I got through all members' Team Up, except I drained on P4, so it still had to be played on Ball 3. On P1-P3 Ball 3, I then collected everything else for Cowabunga. However, now all the players have to play Final Battle first... which is freggin TOUGH. So you'll most likely drain in Final Battle and not get to Cowabunga. P4 still had to go through Team Up first... and then after that I went straight into Final Battle. Of course I then lost, and though I saw the screen after a few players that said "Cowabunga is ready", unless you can beat Final Battle on Ball 3, or get to it on Ball 2, you ain't seeing Cowabunga.
What if you get an extra ball on ball 3?
And are we sure it's not 'Are you a Cowabunga?'
Rob
Quoted from nitroman28:[quoted image]
The pro and LE/Pre are not the same. Yes, you can test the pro wheel in the coil diagnostics, but not the Premium/LE. Unless Dwight added something in the last code update - I haven't looked again.
Rob
I believe I have solved my air ball issues. The solution was to re-level the pizza spinner wheel. While it was seemingly level already, I believe even the slightest edge can cause the ball to gain even a little air (off the playfield) and then ricochet upwards when hitting a standup target.
I've played quite a few test balls, shooting the left ramp X targets and no more airballs now. The airballs were also causing issues shooting the pizza parlor.
Rob
Quoted from gumnut01:I've just noticed that the mylar does not extend far enough down. I have massive dimples because the ball flies off that ramp drop, it does not simply drop. I've extended some mylar past rocksteady.
I agree completely. The factory mylar is positioned where the ball doesn't even land on it when coming off the ramp. I replaced that piece a few weeks ago. Stern should update that at the factory too.
Rob
Quoted from LowScores:Did you guys remove the mylar, or just and a 2nd piece. I found it but didn't think to peek where stuff was hitting but I've only played maybe 20 games.
I removed the original piece and it comes off very easy. You can see where the ball is landing because there will be a slight mark.
Rob
Quoted from SpidermanDan:Does anyone just have all the lights go out during modes or team up? Happens on my game all the time and I thought I remember someone saying that was on issue on first run LEs. I’ll hit a shot and all the lights will go out then come back on. Thanks
That sounds like a node overcurrent reset. Do you have any mods on your game?
Rob
Quoted from gumnut01:Hitting the dimension, 2x playfield and add time starts the pizza up. Which causes a pulse.
Only the mezel mods glider which is powered by a GI bulb.
Does anybody else have shaker pulse for pizza spinning up and down??
Disconnect the mod from the GI and see if the problem persists.
Rob
Quoted from JonCBrand:anyone else find it interesting that the trough eject power can now be set lower. I think 176 was base now 150, just set mine to 150 ball comes out nice and gentle.
Edit wouldn't load trough when 3 balls were on playfield, 160 seems good
On my LE, I still can't set it below 176. Has anyone else with an LE/Pre tried to change this?
From my experience with EHOH, 160 is about right.
Rob
Quoted from ABE_FLIPS:Dwight is aware of it and he said he like it that way. No need to discuss further... however he eventually will revisit the shaker motor effects.
To be honest, the only shaker effect I am not sure I like is the start of Pizza Parlor MB. I get so used to shakers that I don't notice they are there, but I do notice if they are not.
Rob
Quoted from SpidermanDan:The only mod I have is the speaker kit mod; could that be causing it? How would I fix a node over current reset? Thanks so much
When it happens, check for technician alerts which would tell you if there was an overcurrent condition.
Rob
Quoted from Pinballnewb01:What are the overall thoughts of the scoring?
I find it not as rewarding as I want it to be.
You're probably too used to higher scoring games. I think it scores fine, better now with a bit more points from playing the missions. But, maybe there's still room for a bit more tweaking? I need to play more of the new code.
Rob
Quoted from Napoleon:That's solved by not being able to play the Fly episode until you complete this one.
As it stands, it doesn't make sense to have Shredder praise him for a good job, and then zap him.
Shredder is a bad guy, it's in his nature.
Rob
Quoted from ABE_FLIPS:It increases the value of the 123 combo shots.
1st shot = 1x the value
2nd shot = 2x
3rd shot = 3x
if you want to max it out you should collect 123 during your last ball because every spinner shot adds up. if you once complete 123, it won't light up again. if you dont collect it, 123 will always light up at your next ball.
I really like spinners in games. By far, my most favorite spinner is the one in GoT. That spinner has spoiled me for wanting cool spinner sounds/rules/points in other games. I blame Dwight.
Rob
Quoted from billrz:Does everybody’s pizza have this much movement ? While it’s not spinning. How am I suppose to level the pizza with the playfield when it has this much movement ?
I can’t add video to this thread, had to upload to YouTube. Is that normal ?
Until you look under the playfield, it's just a guessing game.
Rob
Quoted from Chalkey:Does the cowabunga being partially lit all the time mean it's a bad LED board?
You are not the first person to have that issue. But, I don't know what the solution was. Maybe someone else knows?! Or you can try emailing Stern technical support.
Rob
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Quoted from J_pinz:Does anyone have any airball issues on the left ramp?
I did and I fixed it be re-leveling the pizza spinner with the playfield. Any minor hop the ball gets from rolling over that wheel (at speed) is then re-directed upwards when the ball hits one of the dimension X targets at the entrance of the left ramp.
Rob
Quoted from arcadenerd925:This. I dont get alot of airballs but occasionally from the ramp and from the 2x target under the glider. I am going to go ahead and replace all three with the angled brackets. They worked fantastic on GB
I temporarily angled the brackets forward on my game by adding shims. It did not really help. It's only when I re-leveled the pizza spinner that it was fixed. It seemed level, but I adjusted it anyhow and it's much better now.
Rob
Quoted from J_pinz:I think you’re right as I noticed my pizza disc isn’t level and that would make sense since I seem to only get air balls at the right target which is just past the spinning disc. Can you tell me how you leveled it?
Airballs from the right target does mean your pizza wheel is not level.
There's 2 bolts on the bracket assembly that can be loosened to adjust the height. Loosen them a bit, but keep them a little snug so when you adjust the wheel position, it stays in place. I used a ruler on edge to make sure it's level. If you lay the ruler flat and it even slightly catches the edge of the disk, it's too high. Level it as best you can, then just test by shooting the right dimension X target. It's quite obvious when you get it level because you will be able to shoot the target many times without a single airball. Re-tighten the bolts.
You will find the pizza parlor lock a lot smoother to shoot as well.
Rob
Quoted from RikeIsland:Is it just me or did TMNT get more exciting after the reveal stream and Avengers got a lot less exciting?
Regardless of Avengers, there is no denying the excellent game that John, Dwight and the rest of their team provided us with. I am very happy with my TMNT LE.
Rob
Quoted from arcadenerd925:How "un-level" was it. as in, if you ran your fingers over it, was it obvious?
Next time i have the glass off I will check mine.
You can't tell with your finger.
Rob
I like your thoughts, it's good discussion.
Quoted from Crater:Leonardo is great through Level 2. I like training lit, and add 10 seconds to all modes. The level 3 award of 2x Weapon scoring is... ok... but if you're on level 3, then you are probably running out of opportunities to use it, as in... you can only light weapon with the skill shot, and by the time I get to level 3, I'm on my last ball or have one more left. Level 4 2x team-up would be great if I didn't already go through the team-up by the time I get to level 4. That seems to be an issue with a lot of them in my opinion.
You're right about the 4th perk. Other than the 10% score gain, the perk can be moot if you have already played through Team Up. But, I imagine the perk can be quite lucrative on points if you do get it. If 2x weapon scoring only affects the hurry ups, then it does seem a bit meh.
Quoted from Crater:Raphael is really good on his level awards. I don't know if it's even worth going through, but all of those scoring opportunities Level 2 - 4 are great and can be easily gotten no matter what part of the game you're on.
Raphael does seem the strongest, even for the final Battle Challenge.
Quoted from Crater:Donatello is a weird one to talk about because his Level 1 award of 1 shot to Turtle Power can be used in a number of ways. I personally like to light 1-2-3 foot and hit the right ramp to activate the first episode without getting my multiball. Level 2 (2x Foot Scoring) is also great because the foot scoring is fun and easily gotten. Level 3 (additional ball save time) is also a great asset, but you're getting to a point again where you probably are already done with most of your multiballs (especially since Turtle Power was almost assuredly done in ball 1), and so it will only be effective for probably your last ball on your ball start save. Which leads to my last point of Level 4 being 3x Turtle Power scoring. Yeah... that'd be great... but I definitely finished my multiballs by this point.
Level 1 is a great way for new players to have easy access to a multiball. But, you have an interesting work-a-round to light the first episode without starting the multiball. What about competition play where there is no ball save? Doesn't this make the +Ball Save perk moot? Default ball save times seem fairly generous so I'm not seeing the appeal of this one. Can't you qualify TPMB again after it's been played? That's something I have not looked into.
Quoted from Crater:Michelangelo just seems a bit stunted right now with the pizza eating contest scoring being low. I'm not a huge fan of his Level 1 Battle Again being lit, mainly because I always seem to hit the opposite drain, and it doesn't seem to go into effect. As it stands, I only really like his Level 2: 2x April Hurry-up scoring. It's definitely an asset you can use to your advantage. For Level 3 having 2x Pizza Eating Contest... maybe if it were like 3x instead of 2x, then it would feel more worth it. His Level 4 ability of 3x Ninja Pizza Multiball is amazing, but the one time I got it, I already used up my ninja pizza multiballs.
2x April hurry up scoring is great! I think you're right about level 3. Pizza Eating doesn't score a lot of points and isn't it just a one time thing? If you're already played the pizza eating contest, then the power up is moot? What do you mean you have used up your multiballs? Can't you qualify them again?
I've been on vacation so I haven't played any pinball in a while.
Quoted from shaub:More options for how Battle Again works, like carrying over between balls, an "easy setting" to light both outlanes, maybe an option to use the apron button to change which outlane is lit (it's gotta be used for more than pizza frenzy on the pro, right?)
The button manages the glider on the premium. You shouldn't have a button rule on the pro and it cannot be used on the premium. Personally, I think the Battle Again behavior is ok. But, that's just me
Quoted from shaub:I just hate cool features/modes feel like filler. Maybe it's just me but 1-2-3 Foot Kombo is fun to hit, but I never feel the need to GO for it.
Foot 123 and Weapon Hurry Ups are both fun mini modes, but I can see where you are coming from. I don't know if there are other perks to beating this other than Cowabunga qualification.
I've been on vacation so I have not played any pinball lately. I'll try to remedy that this weekend.
Rob
Quoted from gumnut01:But isn’t that part of the greatness of turtles? Play a different turtle, play the game differently to take advantage of that turtles abilities. I can see it adding years on to this games replayability. Finished it as Raphael? Great, now finish it as Michelangelo.
It sure is!
Rob
Quoted from zeldarioid:Is anybody else insanely frustrated by this game? I have tried multiple pitches, slingshot strengths, etc, and it doesn’t make a difference. Drain drain drain drain drain. Rocket shots straight out, or bouncing in the outlanes, doesn’t matter. Drain drain drain drain drain. No problem controlling the ball on my Star Wars or Jurassic Park, but this one feels like a joke with how impossible ball control seems. I have put tons of games up, with plenty of time on any given new setting to see if it makes a difference, and can’t seem to find anything fair feeling or consistent. I can’t be the only one...I hope. Are others experiencing this? How are you coping? Is anyone able to actually consistently make improvements on their gameplay when the game’s geometry seems so insanely and aggressively stacked against them?
I'd say set your game back to default settings for everything and start with about a 6.6 or 6.7 pitch on the playfield. I think I have mine around 6.8. I used to have it a bit steeper, but then the ability to backhand the left ramp just wasn't there. You can adjust the right outlane post position, but there doesn't seem to be any adjustment for the left side. The right side is definitely more forgiving than the left.
Rob
Quoted from gumnut01:Fixed my disc. I’m a dumbass.
So I’ve been trying to level using the 2 bolts on the side.
But what my slow brain failed to realise is when you tighten the top bolt, the harness is getting sideways movement like a rocking boat. I thought the tabs on the side near the bolt kept it level. They don’t. There is slight movement.
So when you tighten the bolts, with the other hand forcibly push or hold the top harness level.
Attached is before shot. Then me pushing against or twisting the harness and The final shot is is fixed.
This is to help any fellow stupid people out there. Rest of you probably found this obvious, like putting your pants on. [quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]
Did you put extra ferrite chokes on the pizza motor wiring? I see one on each wire, then another on both wires. I only have 1 choke and it was on both wires (not looped). I changed mine and looped both wires through the block (like the first two are on yours). There's just enough room to do that for 1 loop.
Rob
Quoted from Rbviessman:Hi all. New to this thread. Without going through all 70+ pages, has there been discussion about the game trying to load 6 balls in the van on premium/LE models? Resulting in having to take off the glass to clear all the balls?
When does it do this and how often on your game?
Rob
Quoted from Rbviessman:rob_g
It’s out on lease now, but reported about 1 out of 10 games. It did it while When I had it to test it. Stern put the wrong CPU board in it. I thought that would fix it it but no luck. I had assumed it was a software issue but I suppose it could be mechanical.
Seems related to after Turtle Power Multiball.
Rodney
Checking the ball trough optos would be the first place to start. One could be intermittent, causing another ball to be launched for locking.
Rob
Quoted from Pinball-NJA:Man, Stern must of gave up on this title?
Did they even announce new code?
Or we gotta find out on our own?
Well, you still found out And it's just a test to make sure we're still paying attention.
Rob
Quoted from gumnut01:I have pinball life in TWD (Spike 1) and TMNT (Spike 2). I have a stern one in Deadpool. The noisiest one that rattles the most is definitely the Stern one. I am now going for Pinball life from now on. Cheaper too.
Somebody correct me, but I did not think warranty was affected by Shaker motors?
Of course it is. Anything electrical you connect to the game that's not an official Stern product is not going to be warranty friendly. Some shaker motors have been known to take out the cabinet node board, but that was from a few years ago. Stern shakers come with capacitor kits, where I don't think the PBL ones do.
Rob
Quoted from PinMonk:You have that backwards. The capacitor on the 3rd party shaker motors in the beginning was the problem. Sterns don't have the cap according to their 2015 service bulletin:
https://sternpinball.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Stern-SB184.pdf
(which was essentially irrelevant a few weeks after they issued it since all the 3rd party shakers fixed the problem)
I am not talking about snubbing capacitor(s) directly connected to the DC motor. I'm referring to the inline capacitor cable that Stern includes with their shakers. Every recent LE will have it too (mine do).
Rob
Quoted from Thunderbird:Here is Dwight’s 1st reply:
“I really do not believe that the latest code update could have caused those issues. It really only changed a small handful of stuff that is laid out in the readme. I will look into how the game could load 4 balls into the van. I appreciate the feedback.”
So he’s looking into a fix and will let us know ASAP I’m sure.
Did any of you guys successfully downgrade to 1.21? Where do we download that code, if so?
I have 1.22 on my LE and I just tried about a dozen TPMB on my game and it always re-loaded 3 balls into the van after the ball save times out. I even shot the right ramp as balls loaded and it worked ok.
I'm not doubting your problem, but in the meantime you could check a few things:
- The top switch on the right ramp is working correctly (probably not related to locking)
- The van door is not getting stuck open (for whatever reason)
- The van enter opto is working correctly
Rob
Quoted from ctl723:How does the van actually sense how many balls are loaded up? Is there a single opto that is supposed to only see one at the third position? I don't recall enough wires coming out of there to sense each one individually.
The van doesn't have anything to count balls inside of it. There is an opto on the van entrance that probably does the counting. I just looked at the manual and it's switch 57.
Rob
Quoted from J85M:I actually prefer the stopper on the ramps a lot more than the diverter, the pro gives you a moment to catch your breathe while with the Prem/LE you don’t get a second to think.
This is incorrect. The Pre/LE diverter stops the ball just like the pro does.
Rob
Quoted from John1210:Unless you love the theme ie it's your dream theme the upgrade to prem simply is not worth the money for this game. They needed to strip the pro a bit more. Id actually be annoyed if I was a premium buyer at how good value the pro is.
I'm an LE buyer and I'm not annoyed. In fact I'm very happy!
Rob
Quoted from PinHead50:Has anyone done the glider servo replacement from amazon? I am looking at trying to replace it myself. I dont know what sterns deal is but still dont have an ETA for a new glider after a month. Looks like its a straight forward motor swap.
amazon.com link »
I would not say it is straight forward. For example, is the stock servo digital or analog (I didn't look).
Rob
Quoted from cooked71:Is this the first game Stern has used these types of servos? As soon as I saw they were using these back at launch I knew they’d be trouble. I used to own an AMH which used one for the ghost - mine literally burnt out (Like smoke from under the pf) after 50 plays.
Usually they would use a coil or a proper motor for a diverter like this. Never seen them use these cheap Rc car servos. And with the amount of issues let’s hope they don’t use them again.
The diverter is multi positional, so it can't just be a coil. It doesn't just divert, but it also stops the ball.
Rob
Quoted from PinMonk:Up-down for stopping like on the pro. The L/R coil for the diverting. It would have been more reliable. Ask The Shadow.
Right now John Borg is facepalming after reading this. You just can't spew stuff and claim it's more reliable without a shred of evidence. The Shadow diverters were not without their own problems, like breaking the ramps for example. I know all about Shadow because I have owned one in the past. You're using up 3 drivers, 3 coils and their brackets to run your design instead of a single auxiliary board controlling a simple servo. Yes, it would appear a few people have had issues, but it's not everyone. I've had bad servos in Horizon Hobby products like cars and airplanes. Brand name JR stuff. It happens there can be defects, but generally they are reliable.
Rob
Quoted from PinMonk:You might be able to get away with 3 drivers and 2 coils for a more reliable mech design if you used a EOS switch and a dual-wound coil. But it doesn't matter because the servo is what we have and time travel is observational so we can't change it anyway, we can just watch the mistake genesis over and over, and that's no fun.
Yes, the design is the way it is and it is working fine on my game. If you don't own one, then I don't know why you are so concerned?
Nothing is ever perfect in the world of pinball.
Rob
I've neglected my TMNT a bit lately, but hope to get back to playing it this weekend. I had some fixing to do on Elvira, but that's all done now.
I've never had any freeze on older code. And I don't have enough time on the latest code....
Rob
Quoted from RetroGamerJP:FYI - Looks like this ebay seller has some TMNT Premium Translites available if anyone wanted to change up.
ebay.com link » Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Pro Stern Pinball Game Translite Sign New 26x16
How does anyone know if these are genuine or counterfeit?
Rob
Quoted from Jakers:I'm not sure this has been captured on video before, but last night while streaming my TMNT Premium I had the issue of 4 balls being loaded into the turtle van. It happened multiple times throughout the night. Here's one instance where I reset the game and it immediately loaded 4 balls once it booted up. Reset it again and then it wouldn't empty the 4 out of the van so I had to take the glass off and manually release them. My theory is while in turtle power multiball, once the ball saver runs out it reloads the van, but sometimes while loading if you shoot the right ramp at the same time a ball is being loaded, your shot to the ramp and the loading ball both enter the van...confusing the game.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/770121929
And here's another instance of the game loading 4 balls during Turtle Power Multiball.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/770130608
Oh, and I've now been waiting 2 months for a replacement glider mech from Stern....
I watched your video and am going to say I think the problem is the van enter opto switch. I noticed after the second ball locks, there is a long delay like the software did not count the ball entering the van. Generally as a ball enters the van, another is quickly launched into play as the van enter opto switch is triggered. That extra long delay is a sign.
Rob
Quoted from mbrave77:totally agree. Dwight needs to lighten up on 123 foot.. And one mode should never make another mode unhittable. Like weapon should not make training be unhittable(i think thats the case)
If you are one away from pizza eating contest, you also get locked out of some things. I feel like a few things could be tweaked here and there still.
Rob
Quoted from GoldenOreos:would be cool if you could cycle battle again with the lock bar button along with slings etc. frustrating draining when its lit on opposing lane
You can't have the lock bar button do this because it's used for something else on the premium/LE models. I don't have a problem with battle again and how it's configured.
Rob
Quoted from Thunderbird:(BTW, I’ve decided to not do any modding on the left outlane and leave it like the designer intended and since I’ve changed my strategy to what I’ve explained above, the PF has opened up to me and the left outlane is no longer as much of an issue. As a result, when I get deeper into the game, I really feel a sense of satisfying accomplishment. TMNT, what a game!)
I honestly don't know why there's such a fuss about the left outlane. Yes, it's going to drain more than the right outlane, but that right outlane is also very forgiving. I do agree that maybe any adjustable post should have been there just so owners can fine tune how they like.
Rob
Quoted from shaub:I think the game shoots good, personally. It's just a tough shooter with some tight shots. And code could still save the game from a lot of the difficulty that leads to frustration.
I also think the LAIR shot is awesome, it's one of my favourite aspects of the game! The current question is whether its WORTH hitting. If the code adequately rewarded you for shooting it, the shot's difficulty could be justified.
But, unfortunately, if we're waiting for code revisions, I suspect we're gonna have a bad time.
One of the things you are missing with the pro is the lair lock. The mushroom(?) pizza topping enables that and it's definitely worth hitting during PPMB.
I think there's still room for improvement. For example, Mike's pizza eating perk. It's a perk that applies to only a very small part of the game as opposed to something that generally helps you along as you play the game (like increasing April Hurry Up points).
Rob
1 week later
Quoted from Jakers:Does anyone have a download link for the previous PREMIUM game code? I want to go back to the version before 1.22 to see if my game still loads 4 balls into the turtle van. This problem is beyond annoying at this point. Almost every time playing my game, the turtle power multiball ends up loading 4 balls into the van. Then I have to wait for the ball search (on the 4th or 5th time) to release the van balls to continue play.
Have you tested the van enter opto switch?
Rob
Quoted from DaddyManD:Yes I have a Pinball Life shaker and it doesn't have a 90 degree divot to move the weights. Any other ideas? Grinding a new divot seems ridiculous. Might it be the code is running the motor too fast? Everything else is perfect except Pizza Multiball and it is just far too much.
Just tighten the set screw and it will probably hold. I've done that before with a red tremor.
Rob
Quoted from HookedonPinonics:I will agree that the shaker motor is way too intense at the start of Pizza Multiball.
To be honest I thought so at first too, but then I got used to it. I don't think twice about it now.
Rob
Quoted from PinHead50:Doesn’t look like it. Not sure why they send the whole thing when it’s a servo swap but it’s cool
There should be a return label in the box or maybe with the packing slip. Generally, they do want the parts back. I'm waiting for a new crypt for my EHOH and I have to send the old one back.
Rob
Quoted from spidey:Center ramp problem solved!
I was having lots of center ramp shots not registering. I tried tape over half the holes, didn't help. Finally appear to have it fixed by adjusting the position of the optos. Each opto is mounted with 2 screws. I just loosened them and rotated the optos as much as I could so they would better face each other.
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I'm going to have to do something with my LE because it has the same problem. However, it only happens on FAST shots up the center ramp. Maybe a ramp cover would help also.
Rob
Quoted from gumnut01:Noticed something weird today. Not sure if it’s intended. I was having a really great turtle power multiball when pizza eating comp was made ready. Suddenly the music changes and all MB music and call outs are replaced by the pizza eating challenge music. Wondering if this challenge should wait and not interrupt the MB or is this intended so that the button mashing can happen whilst multiball is happening?
Are you sure it was pizza eating? You can't earn pizza slices from target hits during TPMB and I'm not sure picto pops awards any either? However you can start weapon or april hurry ups and that will change the music.
Rob
Quoted from Mando:123 foot is super satisfying when you mail it , but super annoying when you start it and it just takes over
The left inlane can extend the timer indefinitely too.
Rob
Quoted from Yoko2una:I wish there was an abort where you could hit the action button within 1 second of starting 1-2-3 Foot to cancel the mode and save it for later. This way it wouldn't let 1-2-3 get in the way of your current strategy.
Maybe it's just better to get Foot123 out of the way early in the game. I think Picto Pops can relight it though...
Rob
Quoted from ShortCorky:Played my friends’ AIQ last night - very fun game. Got me thinking though - why didn’t Stern make TMNT allow you to select which episode you play like they did with AIQ’s gem quests? Seems like a far better format and a no brainer to me - it really makes you think and come up with a strategy.
Curious to hear others’ thoughts.
*I realize episodes aren’t entirely random and you can hit the target to rotate through...
I don't really care which mission I get when playing TMNT and I'm not sure there's really anything to be gained if you could pick which one you want.
Rob
Quoted from shaub:I was just playing TMNT and realised that Slash's episode name is a Guns N Roses reference: "Welcome to the Concrete Jungle." Not sure if that was obvious to everyone else, but there it is, haha.
His belt buckle is backwards too 
Rob
3 weeks later
Quoted from BaxterStockman:Here is the official stern release of the pizza spinner fix. Though I've heard others use lithium grease and took it apart further.
I took mine apart and greased the gears. If oiling the nylon washers does the trick, then just stick with that.
It's also important to ensure the pizza wheel is level with the playfield. Use a straight edge like a rule to check.
The only thing I need to do still is make a ramp cover for the center ramp. Sometimes if shot too fast it does not trigger the opto.
Rob
Quoted from BaxterStockman:I noticed my pizza spinner when I apply a little pressure to one side it slides and isn't quite level. Are we measuring the resting position of the spinner? Or do I need to make an adjustment to fix the wobbliness of it?
There's probably going to always be a bit of play in it. Just do your best to make sure it's level, otherwise it can cause airballs when balls hit the targets above it.
Quoted from Coolpinballdino:Played some TMNT, found it kind of odd. You can keep getting unlimited add a balls in turtle power. Was really easy to manipulate. Anyone think they may fix this in a future code update.
Were you getting add-a-balls from the picto pops?
Rob
Quoted from Thomas3184:You hit the 4 turtle shots in during turtle power multiball the right ramp and it gives you add a ball.
This is one rule I where I don't like how it is implemented. Add-a-ball is already in the picto pops so why does there need to be a second rule for it? I would rather see making the 4 turtle shots reward points or moderately increase jackpot values (within a ceiling).
Maybe add a setting for add-a-ball frequency and how many add-a-balls can be awarded.
Rob
Quoted from Vermont:Has anyone had an issue with some of the small stickers coming loose after a very small number of plays? I've had my pin for a week now, and noticed today that both one of the small Dimension X stickers by the left raft, and the same small sized pizza sticker from near the van, have both come off. One landed on the playfield and one managed to get launched up onto the van.
It seems strange that two stickers would both have come lose already.
That being said, should I just use regular glue to reattach, or is there a better method?
Sometimes extra stickers are included in the goodie bag stapled inside the game.
Stern support might also send you some if you ask.
Rob
Quoted from Vermont:Great advice, thanks. My goodie bag did not include any of the mini stickers, but I have an email into stern support to see if they'll send them. I will try gluing them like that for now.
Get some carpet tape. That stuff is double sided, sticky like crazy and super thin. It would be better than any glue.
Rob
Quoted from Phantasize:Just happened again. The machine had convolux and playfield protector fitted from the destibutor before delivery. Could they have missed something that needs to sit there to prevent it?
Anyone have some pictures of the same spot on their machine?
Are you seeing a lot of airballs when hitting the targets?
Quoted from Phantasize:Yup, pretty sure that is where most of the problem originates from. And perhaps the PF protector adds a little more bounce. The game is blistering fast!
The pizza disc probably needs to be levelled if you add a p/f protector. That's why you are getting airballs.
Rob
I am a bit disappointed that Stern hasn't addressed 2 possible problems with the right and center ramps. Both ramps really need plastic guards, but in different places and different reasons:
- The ball can absolutely NAIL the right ramp sign on a hard shot. Sooner or later the ramp will probably break where the sign is mounted.
- The center ramp misses counting fast shots.
Maybe Stern doesn't know about the issues, but I see both happening on my LE all the time. Surely others must as well?
Rob
Quoted from Buckethandletear:I have emailed stern and have not heard back yet. Anyone have any ideas?
It's possible that it's a bad servo. Have you tested it in the diagnostics?
Rob
Quoted from CypherPinball:I'm seeing the same thing. On a pro. Seems as though after playing half shell challenge, the gi has this behavior. As mentioned in the previous post, Power cycling seems to resolve.
It's a rather festive 'winter has come' lighting mode isn't it?
Rob
1 week later
Quoted from Phbooms:Thats a ball crusher shooter rod! or kids head depending on how old they are. I use to hate Indiana Jones gun, it hurt me many times. Make sure to put it against a wall. Go buy it!!!
I've had shooter rods catch on a pants or jacket pocket many times. I think I've torn a few jackets that way.
Rob
2 weeks later
Quoted from Soulstoner:I’ve started getting crazy air balls off the Dimension X stand up targets near the left ramp. Had one launch on to the turtle van today.
Any way to reduce this?
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Check the level of the pizza spinner to the playfield using a straight edge (a ruler works well). Adjust if necessary.
Rob
2 weeks later
Quoted from R_Coles:Can I ask the method that you used to level it? I started getting airballs and confirmed it was the spinner. I think I have it leveled fairly well now using a straight edge and holding it against the spinner/play field but curious what other people have used.
Straight edge to check and play the game by purposely shooting the dimension x targets to verify no more airballs.
Rob
Quoted from Vermont:I love TMNT (it's the only pin in my home) but I think it is a stretch to include the animations in that list of amazingness. I think it is completely fair to knock TMNT for animations, particularly those involving April. She never looks quite right. I'd say it's just my two cents, but many others have called this out too.
Let's call a spade a spade here.
Most of the animations are fairly good, but some of those April animations do look bad. Unfortunately, Stern usually never goes back and fixes things like this. I honestly thought these might have been placeholder animations when the game first shipped, but they were never changed. It's only a couple that could really use improvement, so why did Stern not listen to customer feedback on this?
Rob
1 week later
Quoted from Guinnesstime:Well this is a new bug. Ball crept up into the pizza parlor. Screen blank. Won’t even enter ball search. Tilting the machine and getting the ball out first help. Had to press restart.[quoted image]
That's a very rare bug which has been around a while. I don't know how to reproduce it.
Rob
Quoted from shaub:I don't really play trying to get Cowabunga because that would be a fools errand. But I think the biggest key is to focus on playing through the episodes and make sure to collect the April Hurry-Ups, especially while in MB. You should be able to play 4 Multiballs + Team Up by the time you play Final Battle so that should give a decent number of opportunities to light and collect it.
I never think about Cowabunga either. I've been on a complete pinball hiatus for almost 2 months now. I just dusted off and played some Elvira last night for a bit.
Rob
Quoted from Wildbill327:it seems like multiball is a lot of work for not a lot of points
It's like this for many games now. Multiballs that are easier to achieve are not going to score as well as something which takes time and effort to earn.
Rob
Quoted from cpm_:I’m having trouble with the game loosing track of balls in the lair and wondering if this happening to anyone else. If during a multi-ball I get more than one ball locked in the lair, after the last ball still on the play field drains the lair lock is never released. The game goes searching balls and eventually ends the game without ever actuating the lair lock.
This has happened a few times now. The reason I don’t think it’s a mechanical problem is because
1. Tests of both the lair switches and lair lock work fine
2. During regular play it works fine, ie I can start Leo’s training by locking a ball in the lair and then the lock releases.
But if it is a code issue, I don’t know how everyone isn’t hitting it because it’s game breaking for me. I’ve had to open up the lair twice now to get 2 or 3 balls out.
Any ideas?
The Lair is only supposed to hold 1 ball, not two (if you have the right topping for that).
I would therefore suspect the second lair switch is intermittent.
Rob
Quoted from cpm_:Ah I didn’t realize that. So the top lair switch should always cause the first ball to get released?
Correct.
Rob
2 weeks later
Quoted from JPloof:Just realized last code drop was back in late December. Final battle speech still broken. Surely we are still getting at least one more code update for this game, fixing the final battle speech at minimum? Rules are deep, what else is there that could be fixed/improved? I would love for the April model to be re-done, but realize, we most likely aint' getting that.
Any thoughts on when the next (and maybe last) code drop will occur and what it may contain?
There's one particular (ugly) April animation that I wish could be re-done, but I don't think that will happen.
Rob
Quoted from Jakers:I thought so too but then I tried a different SD card with the original cartoon code on it and it still forgot the settings.
Forget the cartoon code. Refresh the SD card from an official image downloaded from the Stern website. When the game is not saving settings or audits, that's an issue with someone on the SD card being corrupted.
Rob
Quoted from cpm_:I posted the same thing a couple weeks ago. I checked switches and still convinced it is a bug.
In my case I got two balls locked in the lair, other left drained immediately. Had to take off the glass to get the balls out of the lair.
You didn't even get a ball search?
2 weeks later
Quoted from R_Coles:Hi! I’d say your print looks decent, yes there is some grain to it up close but I’ve seen worse where there are discernible horizontal/vertical lines in the print....On your second question, that’s not an optical switch, when the ball passes through the wire gate the gate should be depressing the lever on the top of the switch, if it’s not doing that you should adjust the gate so that it depresses the lever. You can test this by going into the diagnostic menu and actuating the switch to ensure it’s functioning properly.
The switch looks like it's missing a screw. Don't bend anything and search inside the cabinet for it.
Rob
2 weeks later
Quoted from shaub:I played like 6 games on an LE before I got my Pro and Im very content with my Pro. But Id definitely like to play a Prem/Le now that I know so much more about the rules. Knowing which flipper you want the ball to go to is so important for making that diverter worthwhile and I think it could really be a nice touch when you know what you're doing.
Luckily Ive got a buddy who picked up a Premium and just as soon as we can start having private gatherings again, I'll definitely be inviting myself over!
Wait, so I'm not your buddy?!
No code for you!
Rob
2 weeks later
Quoted from wrd1972_PinDoc:Anyone able to chime in?
Thanks
Is the shaker turned on in the game settings?
Rob
Quoted from dinot:I don't have a TMNT yet (arrives on May 15th), but both up-posts on my Stranger Things were binding against the PF. I tried loosening the assembly and seeing if I could move them enough but no go. I eventually rotated the assemblies and drilled new mounting holes. The posts are perfect now.
I had the same issue with the up posts on my JP. Things can shift a bit when getting beaten by a steel ball bearing repeatedly.
Rob
2 weeks later
Quoted from Soulstoner:Does anyone have pizza parlor rejects by way of the ball hitting the top metal under the plastic entrance? I've checked that the spinning pizza is level from all angles, so I can't figure out why I'm getting some slight air balls on that entrance, but it's very jarring when it hits.
Game is at 6.5 degree pitch and is level from left to right.
Not sure what else to look for.
How did you check it? As others have said, this is happening because your pizza disc is not level. Use a straight edge to check it because it needs to be perfect.
Rob
Quoted from BrotherSir:I didn't notice Krang what-so-ever, but my wife thought he was awesome.
Krang always needed way more callouts than he has now.
Rob
Quoted from BrotherSir:- The glider wasn't useful at all. This is going vary by milage, but I don't have any trouble passing the ball from flipper to flipper on this game. The glider looks neat though.
The glider is cool in concept, but I don't really pay much attention to it during the game. It could be more fun or interesting.
Lair lock is one of the best things the LE/Premium has over the pro.
Rob
1 month later
Quoted from Wildbill327:As of now Raphael is definitely the most powerful turtle to score with
He's always been like that and I don't think it will change. Although you still need to advance through training to make use of the perks.
Rob
Quoted from dashv:More Official toppers are showing up back in stock in places.
https://nitropinball.com/products/tmnt-topper
I'm generally not a topper guy, but this one looks cool.
Rob
1 week later
3 weeks later
Quoted from Taygeta:I get 500,000 for completing a mode with 4-5 shots, but one April hurry up (with no added perks) is 1.5M or more??
The payoff for completing missions isn't entirely in the up front points.
Rob
Quoted from Thomas3184:Yeah at a minimum fix the bugs in final battle speech and tpmb freeze.
Maybe if someone can figure out what triggers the TPMB crash... I tried to, but have never had it happen to me.
Rob
Quoted from onemilemore:Yeah, I would definitely like to see more scoring value on getting through the modes. It can be a grind at times and the payoff just isn't there.
That said, I love this game. Shots are just too fun for me to want to get rid of it because of scoring imbalances. I can ignore hurry-ups etc. if I just want to get into a rhythm and progress deeper in the game. It's made me a better shooter on the whole, and as someone newer to the hobby I appreciate that.
Double up the mission scoring and neuter Raphael somehow.
Rob
2 weeks later
Quoted from Scandell:Finally found some time to start April. I'm working on swapping out her animations. I think the original animations are great and , knowing Stern, I imagine they were done on a tight budget and in a short time. So this isn't meant to be a challenge, or to instigate an argument. I'm just a huge TMNT fan...and I want to contribute to my machine.
Skeptical? I don't blame you. But this is kind of my jam. I'll start my own thread soon. Be on the lookout if you are interested in following along.
[quoted image]
I don't know why it was just April when almost everything else was top notch. Iron Maiden had numerous animation changes done well into the release cycle and even into the last update. Why didn't Stern improve April, at least the "Shitty April" ones.
Rob
Quoted from shaub:I think sometimes less is more, the Slash episode looks really good with that Shadowy silhouette style. But the April animations haunt me in my dreams.
The animation of April behind a news desk is maybe the worst.... Perhaps we need a poll?
Rob
Quoted from onemilemore:Slash's belt buckle is correctly backwards.
[quoted image]
Cool. Thanks for sharing that. I didn't know it was on purpose.
Rob
Quoted from Scandell:I recently turned down ALL of my flipper strength settings...and the game is much improved. Ball still makes the ramps with ease...no more instant-post-drains.
Can you still backhand the left ramp? I think that is a key shot to still have available to the player.
Rob
1 week later
Quoted from DNHansen:I can't after moving the bubble now touching to the top line. I don't know how to measure the grade beyond the attached level on the shooter lane.
I have a digital incline meter which works fairly well to measure playfield pitch and level. I think I have my TMNT at about 6.7 or 6.8. If I put it at 7 or higher then I probably can't backhand the left ramp any more. The flippers weaken as they get warmer during play so that becomes a factor too.
Rob
Quoted from Habermania:Anyone know where to order replacement remolding for TMNt. My backbox t-molding is all sticky. Has been since new. What size and where should i order new t-molding. Love the color. Fine to keep it as is.
Goo Gone will fix that sticky problem of yours.
Rob
1 month later
Has anyone had the TPMB crash happen on an LE/Premium? I was trying to see if I could reproduce it (glass off), but I wasn't able to.
How about a bit of info?
What turtle were you playing as?
Was it a single player game? 2 player? Coop?
What ball did it happen on?
Anything else you remember about it?
Rob
Quoted from azur3:I had it on my LE. One time I can definitly remember was a 4 Player Coop after completing Cowabunga MB, most likely on ball 5/5. So it was also the 2nd TPMB for that specific player. Don‘t know which Turtle it was anymore, sorry!
Never on a single player game?
Rob
Quoted from daveyvandy:I've had it happen both with the 87 code and without. Always happened when I had fresh code written ... within the first 10 or 15 plays would happen once maybe. Now I have tons of plays on the SD card, it hasn't happened in ages. It's a very difficult bug to reproduce for sure. Probably why they haven't fixed it yet.
I agree, very difficult to track down.
Rob
Quoted from Scandell:See animation here: [quoted image]
Maybe have her point at the player instead of the OK sign.
Rob
2 weeks later
Quoted from shaub:I would also recommend changing the Battle Again adjustment that makes it change with the flipper buttons rather than the slings, that way you can utilize Battle Again more effectively.
It's 50/50 already... Those aren't bad odds Ball will go SDTM anyhow...!
Rob
Quoted from onemilemore:Borrowed a premium for a month before buying a pro. Haven't missed the premium, but did add a Krang mod for vibes.
I almost never feel obligated to change the glider path while playing my LE. I still like the other extras though.
Rob
2 weeks later
Quoted from Scandell:She's a news reporter and takes her job seriously. That story is not worth her coverage.
Maybe it's her cat?
Rob
1 week later
Quoted from Meorrow:I've had a pro for a month or two now and I think I see where people are coming from on the scoring. It's not the relatively low scoring, but the inconsistency.
Just be thankful the scoring isn't as crazy as BM66 is. Scores in that game are absolutely meaningless because of how 2 modes are structured to affect the entire game. A few good players have scored over a trillion points on it. Some people like it that way, but I must be one of the few that don't. I don't mind TMNT scoring. Some things you may not necessarily see the points up front, but get better rewarded later on.
Rob
1 week later
Quoted from Kcucci:Hey, is anyone else having this problem too? It definitely changed the strategy for my wife and me. We both have to pick Michelangelo now since he starts with 5 slices so you can go for 2 slices before ninja pizza multiball to ensure you get pizza eating contest. Otherwise the other turtles you need to nail 7 slices first or you’ll have to skip pizza eating contest due to the error in the new code. hope it gets fixed!
Yes, I've seen this issue. I was hoping it would have been fixed in the last code update, but I guess not. I have not updated yet.
Rob
Quoted from Kcucci:Thanks.
What you say about it being a prior problem is interesting since I never had this issue for V 1.41, it is now just an issue on V 1.50.
You're right, it probably wasn't an issue on 1.41. I am pretty sure it will get fixed.
Rob
Quoted from Jerickso77:I think that's the point of turtle power multiball. Otherwise, Donnie would be overpowered. As it is he gets the easy multiball but you can't take it into a mode.
I think you're right. With TPMB being easier to achieve, it doesn't score as much for points.
I also think people are too critical of TMNT scoring. Take a look at Elvira for example and the house multiballs. Wild Women multiball doesn't score much and after you get the super jackpot, every subsequent jackpot is just mediocre points until the multiball ends.
What TPMB CAN do for you is help increase your April Hurry up values. Most people don't know that the more things you have running, the bigger those hurry ups can be. I didn't even know that until recently.
Rob
1 week later
Quoted from shaub:Has anyone been trying to earn the Insider Connected achievements?
If so, have you been able to earn the following:
-Collect April Hurry-Up during Team-Up
-Collect Max Krang Combo
-Collect Krang Combo with 2X playfield Multiplier
-Train all four turtles to level 2
-Train all four turtles to level 3
-Train all four turtles to level 4
Personally, I've done all of these without getting credit for them.
How did you connect your pro? I probably won't be having any of my games insider connected.
Rob
I dislike the April animations as much as anyone else. However, I would just be careful about putting altered rom images on your game. The EULA forbids it of course, but there's more risk to it than that:
'You will not use or install any Unauthorized Content or Unauthorized Software. Use of Unauthorized Content or Unauthorized Software may result in your Stern Pinball Machine ceasing to work permanently and/or losing access to Stern Pinball’s online game network, either immediately or after a later installed Authorized Update.'
In order to keep the integrity of Insider Connected in place, I would imagine at some point that games with modified code will become automatically blacklisted from online connections. I don't think it's a question *if* Stern takes a tougher stance, just a question of *when*.
I don't want to debate the good or bad, just trying to remind everyone of the potential risk.
Rob
4 weeks later
Quoted from mpdpvdpin:Thanks! I’ll give that a shot
Don't use anything abrasive on leaf switch contacts because you will probably ruin them.
Put the old bands back on to see if the problem persists. Are the bands the same size and same type of material?
Rob
Quoted from mpdpvdpin:The problem is the same with the old bands as well as the new (I only replaced them because I noticed they were starting to tear) It’s definitely the switches, when I activate them by hand in switch test two of them are clearly less responsive than when new.
An old trick is to use a business card to clean the contacts.
Rob
Quoted from Vermont:Does anyone recommend any specific cleaning solution/method for the plastic ramps? I have the playfield looking pretty awesome but I'm not sure what to do with the ramps. Thanks!
Novus 2 works well. It even works fantastic on cleaning metal parts.
Rob
1 month later
Quoted from RVApinballer:Quite simple. Instead of launching a new ball from the shooter lane you get a virtual “lock” and it kicks it out from the parlor.
On Multiball start, the rest of the balls are kicked from the shooter lane.
If you’re a competitive player or tournament director, this can also be useful to keep people from short plunging to the right flipper after every lock.
I don’t mean this “speeds up the ball”, it just makes it so you don’t have to plunge every time you get a pizza parlor lock…which sounds silly to complain about but it does keep the game moving instead of having to stop and plunge each time.
Also saves wear and tear on the shooter lane
Rob
Quoted from NoSkills:Does anyone do an airball protector for the right ramp? I seem to be getting quite a few airballs on the right ramp from the left flipper since installing the pinmonk fans. Already at 7 degrees. I could turn down the left flipper power but then I might not be able to backhand the left ramp. Thanks!
The right ramp entrance could also use a deflector at the front to avoid the ball hitting the sign. It's going to eventually break...
Rob
Quoted from RVApinballer:You still get the pizza spin, but only 1 ball will come out of the lair and do the spin. The rest will be launched from the shooter lane and won’t be a part of the pizza spin start.
This must be a setting for competitive play because I don't see another advantage.
Rob
1 month later
Quoted from delt31:So how are people using the glider from a strategy perspective? Still trying to determine the best use of it besides the unique mode it brings. Former pro pro owner here
To be honest, I mostly ignore it because it's not terribly useful or fun. Like many other Pre/LE only features, the integration is limited because it does not exist on pro models.
Rob
Quoted from Eskaybee:Are there rules differences with the PREM vs pro? I thought there was for this game, but don’t remember what it was - pizza topping? Am I in the ball park or totally off?
Mushroom is an LE/Pre only topping which enables the Lair Lock.
https://sternpinball.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/TMNT-Rulesheet.pdf
Rob
Quoted from Mahoyvan:Why limit that code to only prem/le!?
Not like its done via a feature only available on a prem/le. Would be super handy…
I think the pro lair has only 1 switch where the Pre/LE has two. The pro would never be able to detect stacked balls in the lair as a result. I think the timed 2x Lair Lock is a better (more fun) feature than the glider bonus (which I never bother with).
Rob
Quoted from shaub:they could make the topping enable the 2x but not hold the ball the entire time as an adequate substitute on the pro.
Won't happen.. lol... It's just one of those extras you get (paid for) with PRE/LE purchase.
Rob
Quoted from shaub:I believe Dwight mentioned on a podcast that there was a debate between including the diverter or the spinning pizza disc on the Pro and they went with the Pizza. If that was the case, in hindsight they definitely should have went with diverter on the Pro. When it comes down to it, the Pizza Disc doesn't really add much to the overall game. But, what's done is done.
The disc isn't especially grippy so it doesn't affect ball trajectory much.
Rob
Quoted from System-J:I think Dwight could make the scoring a bit more sexy
That's coming in another update (Sexy Mode).... Just kidding of course!
Rob
Quoted from Riefepeters:Just got back in the club recently, and I will admit this game is a bit better than I remember. When I traded my last one my 6 year old daughter was mad at me because she loved choosing her turtle, and I promised her I’d get another someday and I’ve been waiting for a decent deal to pop up. My biggest issue before was massive scoring imbalance. But it seems like code updates maybe fixed that a little…any input? And yeah, that artwork is gorgeous on this one. Great game. And my 6 year old knew it.
The scoring has had a lot of tweaks done to it from initial release. Although it does feel like there's a certain element of risk vs reward missing.
Rob
Quoted from System-J:The training itself is a huge risk where even if you don't drain making specific shots there's no points unless you also have a good game on top of it. Even just lighting the ball save is a bit riskier then many games. And the outlane ball save is SO important on borg layouts.
Ok there is risk there I agree. I was thinking more during the modes though.
Rob
Quoted from big-c66:Me too I love my turtles but if he would do something to the scoreing would be great.
You guys need to do more than just say 'the scoring needs to be fixed'. How about elaborating on what you think could use attention and why?
Rob
Quoted from System-J:But also, like I said, I think foot123 is meant to be a (thematic) annoyance as much as an opportunity for points.
I'm curious too about a max points. I vaguely remember a good completion worth around 2 mil., which is around what you get for a good completed epp.
I wish Foot123 was a mode you had to qualify rather than just being lit at the start of every ball. Maybe it's lit after every 2 episodes (adjustable) and each successive one is worth more points, especially if you beat the previous one. Even have another option so it's lit at game start if you want (default yes).
Rob
1 week later
Quoted from cabal:the grafics of the game just look fine, the trailer would almost fit to the pinball machine:
https://cdn.cloudflare.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/256825298/movie480_vp9.webm?t=1631121320
it's like a cross over from the grafics used in the pinball machine and the cabinet art.
That music is atrocious. People complained about the theme in the pinball not being the original, but it's light years better than what is in that game.
Rob
Quoted from System-J:Just put up a mean score on mine (sans IC). Raph, L3, attempted L4 but couldn't hit center ramp :/ , had another chance but went for final battle instead. Got past first challenge on it. What a rush! Love this game. I play it like as if it was a strategy game I use to be addicted to and keep playing 'one more turn' until the light comes up. I guess it's fortunate that pinball machines are loud enough that I couldn't get away with that.
TMNT is still such an underrated game I think. I wish 1 or 2 things could be tweaked still, but that ship has sailed long ago.
Rob
1 week later
Quoted from Pin_Fandango:I played a pro for the 2nd time and I can see myself owning this one.
Not sure why people hate it! It is a tough super fast game!
Definitely interested.
I don't think people hate it, but there's other games that simply steal the spotlight more. The reduced scoring could make the game feel less exciting for some players as well.
Rob
Quoted from shaub:The way I see it, this is probably the biggest issue with the scoring, NPMB can be lucrative in a couple different ways. 2X SJPs worth 7 or 8M points is pretty huge compared to scoring those points elsewhere, like in Episodes. How many completed Episodes would that take to score? How many 1-2-3 Foot Combos? Oh yeah, you can only score one, even if you spend the whole entire game building it before collecting it, it might be worth like half of a NPMB SJP. How many Krang Kombos? How many Weapon Hurry-Ups?
Yeah, maybe mode completion could score a bit more points... They seem to score on average about a million now?
Rob
Quoted from maffewl:Would be good to send the video of the TPMB crash to Stern. I know it’s widely reported but videos may help them dissect the issue.
They already have video of it happening.
Rob
Quoted from shaub:I agree that it's difficult to achieve and that it should be worth good points. Though I do think you make it sound more difficult than it actually can be. Yes, you need 6 blue shots to light Mondo JP but you're in MB and that can happen pretty quickly and safely especially while ball save is active.
I usually never know when mondo jackpot is lit, I don't think the insert is even red at that time?
Rob
1 month later
Quoted from big-c66:No doubt. I love mine but really wish they would give a good code update n put the scoreing we’re it needs to be.
Where do you think it needs to be?
Rob
4 weeks later
1 week later
Quoted from KingVidiot:Yaknow, the leaderboards never seemed like cheaterboards, and I thought I had a decent chance at staying near the top with my 114 million game… till I saw these 10+ billion games… come on [quoted image]
And people complained TMNT was a low scoring game
Wait for the multi trillion point games on BM66....
Rob
Quoted from shaub:that leaderboard is wrong. My score was more like 150 or 160m but I was in 3rd or 4th when I got it. The highest score was 210m or so I believe.
edit: its also wrong in my personal stats, which sucks because now I dont know what my actual best score is.
I thought 800 million seemed a bit high... I was thinking wow, he's really got that game nailed down!
Rob
Quoted from hiker2099:Weird stuff happened with new update…
1. Started NTMB but the Turtle song never played.
2. Started Pizza MB and the machine didn’t roll the balls out to the magnet. No auto-flipper to the magnet and no spin.
Really weird. No errors.
Did you power cycle the machine after the update? I just wrote a new sd card image for my LE tonight. After updating node boards (etc), node 9 on my game stayed off. There was no upper playfield GI and the game kept launching balls trying to load the van, but that was failing. After a power cycle it seems to be working ok.
Rob
2 weeks later
Quoted from shaub:I am a bit worried about how valuable Raph is
Quoted from qbass187:So far, I’ve checked all the optos in the van & trough and everything between the trough & van and everything registers in test. I also flashed a new SD card just in case something happened during the update process.
I’m going to try to swap out opto boards with my JP prem to see if there’s any change.
It seems like this issue isn’t unique to my machine but I haven’t been able to find anyone’s solution yet.
Make sure the van diverter isn't getting stuck open on the ramp. It could cause the van to load too many balls and cause weird issues. This was a common issue when the game first came out.
Rob
Quoted from Xaqery:PS - I have No Man Sky comming for my SWITCH on Tuesday.
I'm up for this (hopefully) when PSVR2 hits! It's a bit too low-res on PSVR and I have too much difficulty with the Oculus Quest 2 controllers.
Give Corey a raise!
Rob
Quoted from ShortCorky:I’ve been waiting to see this in one of these updates… but, does anyone know why this game doesn’t have more “champions”??
For example, TPMB champion or I Want a Body champion?
All new sterns seem to have this.
I don't think there is enough scoring diversity in the modes to make that really work.
Rob
Quoted from KingVidiot:So as an owner of a premium, the biggest thing I envy about the pro model is the ability to feed the rollovers easily for bonus X
Bonus X on my LE is not easy to get either. Not many shots leave the ball at the top rollovers and even when they do, the ball bounces off the up post back down the right orbit. Maybe I will look at it later today and see if I can figure something out. I still need to update the code.
Elvira needs some fixing too.
Rob
1 week later
Quoted from Pin_Fandango:I am considering picking up a Pro after seeing the latest code updates.
The 2nd market price on this game is terrible though, just seems a good idea to buy used on this one it seems.
Some people define a 'terrible' price if they can't sell it for 110% of what they paid for it (new or used). The only reason mine hasn't sold is that I can't ship at the moment. I had several more than fair offers though.
Rob
Quoted from shaub:TL;DR Raphaels Level 3 and 4 perk combined can blow up the value of episodes. The end.
Maybe since episode scores were increased, Raph level 4 perk should be dropped to 2x episode scoring instead of 3x? I never get that far anyhow lol.
Rob
Quoted from shaub:I little bit of code polish and score/gameplay balancing and this game could really shine
Sometimes the designers/programmers just have different thoughts about balance, or what is needed compared to us. For example, many people (including myself) thought Bookworm/Freeze was far too powerful on BM66, yet Lyman did not consider it that way (I asked him). Or those cannon inserts on ACDC not doing anything, there was a rational decision for that. TMNT isn't the first or last game where something could be tweaked, but at what point is the line drawn and the business moves on? We did get some additional scoring on modes which is nice and the crash bug is finally fixed. I'm going to be happy with that.
I'll still maybe sell my LE (or not), but not because I don't like it. I just got bills to pay... My US employer doesn't pay me enough rubles....
Rob
Quoted from bicyclenut:I chose this game over Deadpool myself. Don't get me wrong, Deadpool is a great game.
I find that TMNT is a more challenging game than Deadpool. Maybe games with upper flippers usually are a bit tougher? I'm terrible with upper right flippers, but upper left flippers I fare better with.
Rob
1 week later
Yesterday I had Michelangelo get Donatello's TPMB perk. At the start of the game the TPMB insert was flashing and one shot to the ramp started TPMB multiball. My friend and I had previously played final battle and then started a 2 player game where I went first.
Has anyone else had this happen?
Rob
Quoted from NoSkills:Was it right at the start of the game before plunge or is it possible you got it from the pops as an award and didnt notice?
I have an LE so the ball is barely in the pops. It was right at the start of the game and I don't think there is any pop award that qualifies TPMB.
I will play around with it some more to see if I can do it again.
Rob
1 month later
Quoted from Audioenslaved:Horde on twd is PHENOMENAL and I’ve told Dwight that final battle is a close second to horde.
I would have liked 1 more stage in Final Battle.
Rob
2 weeks later
Quoted from shaub:The 2x Target insert will start flashing faster when it's close to running out but there is no timer. I agree that a small timer in the corner of the screen would be nice. Mandalorian has a timer shown for it's pf X, though it does get hidden by the mode timer sometimes. I just wanna know where my pf X is at dammit!
The playfield outer flasher lights also have a rotational lighting effect while PF multiplier is active. But, it's not something I easily notice with all the other lighting effects going on. Sometimes I don't realize I even started a PF multiplier.
Rob
2 weeks later
Quoted from mikespins:I also think a few more things factor in to why some people like to hate on this pin. It was released during covid when no one was able to go play on location, on top of the fact that now when you do play it on location, it is usually dialed in to be a location pin. Ex: posts are at the widest, settings either default or perhaps harder, etc. This on top of what some call unbalanced scoring make it a tough sell to the masses. I personally love it! I do wish the scoring was a little better though.
I think it's misconception that the scoring is unbalanced simply because the game doesn't score on the same billion point levels that other games do. Although mission scoring was kind of weak, that has now been improved.
Foot123 is still my least favorite part of the game. I would turn off the pizza eating contest too if I could (I don't think it can be).
Rob
Quoted from dboeren:2. When starting Ninja Pizza Multiball, can you show the Pizza Toppings a bit longer, or have a config option that they stay up until the player presses a button? I feel like I'm being rushed here and knowing my toppings better would help me know what to shoot for during NPMB.
I'm old(er) and can't read the pizza toppings menu. Yes, it goes away too quickly also. White font on a near white menu background is killer.
Rob
2 weeks later
Quoted from bossk4hire:Howdy yall! Just installed insider connect in my prem and aboit 5 games in the gi lights will shut off randomly for a few seconds and then come back on. Might have nothing to do with the IC.... and ideas?
That almost sounds like a node board shutting down due to overcurrent protection. Do you have any mods in the game?
You could have a bad LED lamp or a lamp socket that is shorting on something.
Rob
2 weeks later
Quoted from shaub:Can I have the source files? I'm feeling inspired!
You sold your turtles, so you shouldn't even be allowed here 
Rob
Quoted from flashinstinct:Why would I provide source files of my original art? Serious question.
He wasn't being serious...
Rob
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