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Technical question on AFMr hardware.

By Zennmaster

4 years ago



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#1 4 years ago

I guess I'm not completely clear on the hardware that's in use in AFMr, or MMr for that matter.

I'm trying to plan for the future, and imagining what it might be like trying to find replacement parts if something burns out in five years. I've heard reference to BeagleBone boards being used. Are these actual BB boards, or are they something similar but different? If they're genuine BBs, it seems like a good precaution to order a few now, while they are a current product, rather than try to hunt one down later.

I'm not trying to bypass anything proprietary to CGC, but if there are off-the-shelf parts that I can hoard errrr, I mean "Stock up on" that might come in handy later, I'd just as soon get started.

Same question for any other boards in the AFMr.

Thanks!

#2 4 years ago

I wouldn't worry, there will be something that can run the emulation and probably be half the size in the future

#3 4 years ago
Quoted from Zennmaster:

I guess I'm not completely clear on the hardware that's in use in AFMr, or MMr for that matter.
I'm trying to plan for the future, and imagining what it might be like trying to find replacement parts if something burns out in five years. I've heard reference to BeagleBone boards being used. Are these actual BB boards, or are they something similar but different? If they're genuine BBs, it seems like a good precaution to order a few now, while they are a current product, rather than try to hunt one down later.
I'm not trying to bypass anything proprietary to CGC, but if there are off-the-shelf parts that I can hoard errrr, I mean "Stock up on" that might come in handy later, I'd just as soon get started.
Same question for any other boards in the AFMr.
Thanks!

Generally, the topside is all normal parts. Plastics, posts, ramps, major mechanical assemblies, etc. The bottom side mechanical parts are all normal. The things that are different are the boards. The beagle bone is stock, but the rest of the electronics are from CGC. I think for AFMr that the lighted saucers are probably different but not sure yet.

For my MMR, I bought a spare:

BeagleBoneBlack
Main light board
Driver board

But that's just me being a hoarder. I doubt I will need them!

Marc

#4 4 years ago
Quoted from Kiwipinhead:

I wouldn't worry, there will be something that can run the emulation and probably be half the size in the future

Sure, but it will only have USB-C ports and no ethernet.

#5 4 years ago
Quoted from pintechev:

The things that are different are the boards.

Yeah, that's what I was referring to. For mechanicals and such, I am much more concerned that Alien will use something weird than AFMr.

Obviously the BBB is available anywhere, did you get the driver and light boards from CGC directly?

#6 4 years ago

You should buy three spares of everything to go along with your $8000 machine. Support the hobby!

#7 4 years ago

I bought the spare boards from PPS

#8 4 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

You should buy three spares of everything to go along with your $8000 machine. Support the hobby!

On the other side of my game room, I've got two arcade games that spent a bunch of time just taking up floor space while I looked all over the world for custom chips that Atari stopped making over 30 years ago. Found 'em in Poland, as it happens. The search was kinda fun, but I would rather have had my games working. I bought more than I needed, because they're not going to get cheaper or more plentiful, and who knows, maybe someone else nearby will need one or two.

If I can spend a hundred bucks now to keep a complete backup nervous system in the coin box of my pin, I'll do it (especially if I'm getting it off the shelf from Newark/Element14), rather than wait for the day when I go to turn the game on and nothing happens. I'm sure at that point the new version of the BB will be out, and it'll be great, but somehow incompatible with the "legacy" stuff. I'm also sure someone will make a drop-in replacement (a-la Nucore) and it will be great too, but expensive and hard to come by if I happen to miss the production run. I dunno, maybe it's the video game collector in me. When parts are cheap, current and available, it seems like to time to get them.

I also may keep a spare set of rubber rings around. You never know when they might go...

#9 4 years ago
Quoted from pintechev:

I bought the spare boards from PPS

Cool, thanks!

#10 4 years ago

So the BeagleBone that runs the core emulator is based on an AM3358 processor (ARM architecture, which basically runs your android phone as well as any other single board computer). The risky part of the BeagleBone is the fact that they use the AM3358BZCZ100 processor (ARM Sitara, based on the Cortex A9), BUT has added graphics technology. This was a similar crux for Pinball 2000 with the Geode/Cyrix MediaGX systems. If they've integrated directly with this graphics chip, then you definitely want a spare BBB. If they haven't, then you could probably run the emulator on a different SBC provided the GPIO mappings are the same. Its all Linux under the hood

There are several other things that could chain it to the BeagleBone Black, but the graphics one stood out the most to me.

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