Hey Everyone...

Installed the Gold Roms a while back and have noticed that when Thing grabs the ball and gomez yells "no no no" he comes back up to put the ball back in the cup, but he has dropped it in the box and its being shot back out through the swamp kick out.

In the past, he used to bring the ball back up and place it in the cup. Is this something that is correct for a gold rom game?

thanks MXV...I will take a look inside the box when thing takes the ball and see if its hitting something

ok...The magnet is able to pick the ball up and bring it into the box...is there another wire that keeps the magnet energized so that he still holds it during, "no, no, no"?

Hey Guys...finally had a chance to look at Thing and all tests register correctly. I did reseat the connector that comes out of the box. Still nothing. I then cleaned the metal bolt that pick up the ball to see if there was something causing it not to hold on the way up. No luck.

I then ran it with the box lid open so I could see what it was doing. Nothing in the way or hitting the ball. It appears to just to loose its magnetic hold (or falls right off) right after it starts its way back up.

I tried removing the box but I really can't figure out how to get to the screws that go up the back of the playfield. I did remove the two on the front and took a look but could not see much and would really like to get that entire box off. Do I need to remove the playfield to get to those screws back there?

Thanks again for all your help
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thanks guys...first time trying to remove the box and sticking my hand back there, it felt like there were 4 screws I needed to remove. I will pull that box off this afternoon and take a look.

I am thinking it's got to be a wire that is sending the signal to hold the ball during No No No...(or at least I hope it is) And keeping with the postive thoughts, I will plug the soldering iron in before removing that box so it's ready.

Ha...guess if I read the directions the box comes right off

ok...ran it back through switch opto test and she passed..also ran magnet test and it passed.
removed thing and inspected to see if there were any loose wires or connections and everything looks good.
Reseated J130 which is the connector that controls things magnet and even took a close look at pin 7 and it looks fine.

Reassembled and re-ran through opto test and magnet test and it passed. During Magnet Test it pulses the magnet to grip the ball. I wished there was a way to energize the magent for a long period. Then ran during game play during No No No. The magnet grabs the ball with authority from the hole and brings it in the box. But Somehow the cpu is killing power to the magnet when it hits the down stroke opto and I believe is causing the ball to just fall off into the box.

Any other suggestions guys? I was really hoping to see a broken wire...

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got tone from the board connector all the way to the coil connector on both wires, so the harness is good...

Its either the coil or the board. Found a post on how to check a coil and will check that tomorrow. Seems like checking the coil is just checking resistance and needs to read more than 3 ohms.

If the coil tests ok, what is the best procedure to check the board?

wanted to add. I had gone through all the wiring visually and even removed the coil from things hand. Wires coming out of that coil seemed tight with no visible damage. I then went to retest the game after resetting connectors and the magnet would not engage at all during game play or during thing magnet test. I then came back and checked continuity and got the tone.

swapped the rom...no dice
checked the coil and resistance was running greater than 7.5 so it appears the coil is good.

Is there something on the board that I can check? All other solinoids are firing so the fuse is good. How can I check to see if power is being sent to the coil from the board?

Any other ideas?

Thanks again guys for all the help

Got my new coil for Things hand but had a bit of a delay putting it in.

During the big freeze we had a busted pipe in the master bathroom which is on the third floor...when I pulled up to my house you could see water running out of the siding on the outside of the house...it wasn't good..three floors of water, but hopefully will be back into the pinball room soon to get the coil installed.

I was going to update as soon as the coil is installed...sorry for the delay in following up

Well, the best thing was the Pinball room is on the other side of the house, so we were spared. I had mentioned to the wife that I need a pinball day this weekend so hopefully getting in and working on a few games...

Not insensitive to ask at all. Since it was an inside pipe that froze it was covered under my normal home insurance. If it had been outside water, leaky roof, surface water, water coming up from the foundation, or a creek rising there would not have been coverage.

Yep...replaced the coil in things hand. At the same time replaced my first connector and pins. All is working fine now. Thing grabs the ball with authority and does what he is told! Thanks everyone for the help with this.