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TECH - Fireball Classic GI very dim

By Pintoxicated

11 years ago


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#1 11 years ago

Guys,

I have a Fireball Classic that has very dim GI. All the lamps work, they are just very dull. New globes were installed not too long ago.

Any ideas where I should start looking please? I have replaced the BR's the other day which has sorted out the resetting issue it had. I have also rebuilt the solenoid driver board HV and 5V sections as per the Pinrepair guides.

Thanks.

#2 11 years ago

What is the voltage at the actual bulb sockets?

#3 11 years ago

You could try rebuilding your power supply board along with its pins and connectors with a kit from Big Daddy Enterprises. Dim GI usually stems from worn out components and stressed connectors in this area. Make sure you also order the proper crimping tool if you don't already have one.

#4 11 years ago

There is only 2VDC at the sockets.

The only thing I haven't really replaced on the power supply board is the resistor and 004 diodes. I haven't touched the connectors either. They look in pretty good shape although I know that doesn't really mean anything.

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#5 11 years ago

Someone has done some hacking on the power board. I dont know whats going on with the two rectifiers, that is funky.

GI just passes through the rectifier board and stays AC. Check voltage at the transformer, then the rectifier test point and then a socket. See where your voltage drop is coming from.

#6 11 years ago

So what is the point of these two BRs?
To me they are doing nothing.

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#7 11 years ago

Yeah that is what i am trying to understand chrisbee. Are they really rectifing the GI? I dont know the layout of that board enough to tell where the hackage is going.

Check the GI see if it is AC or DC voltage.

#8 11 years ago

Looking at the schematic, barakandl is correct the GI lights are AC. Have you made changes to the jumpers on J1 (next to the Trannie with the fuse in the bracket)? Make sure the wiring is correct for your line voltage.Check the voltage at test piont 4 (6.5 VAC), if you are only getting 2 v there then Check the jumpers with the attached schematic.

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#9 11 years ago
Quoted from barakandl:

Yeah that is what i am trying to understand chrisbee. Are they really rectifing the GI?

There not doing anything. Just 2 diodes apposing each other, a dead end.

#10 11 years ago

Here is the test points for GI Lights

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#11 11 years ago

I just re read his post. He said he found 2v DC at a GI lamp socket. I can not tell the orientation of those two bridges, but they must be rectifiying the AC for the GI.

Why in the heck you would do that is beyond me.

#12 11 years ago

Some dope was trying to replace bridge rectifiers on this looks like....they mounted them to the metal plate to dissapate the heat from them better, so they ran jumpers to connect it to the power board... god.. >_<

Obviously they were too stupid to understand that all four points have to be connected, hello!

#13 11 years ago

Thanks guys.

So I will remove the two additional BRs and see how it goes from there. This was how I bought the machine i.e. with those extra BRs. I didn't question them thinking that they must just be some funky mod to make the board more robust or something like that.

I will also check the jumpers for the line voltage as well - I needed a diagram of that so thanks again to everyone. I will have a tinker later on and report back.

#14 11 years ago

All fixed thanks guys.

i removed the extra BRs and as you can see in the pics, whoever installed them has ruined an otherwise nice board. I jumpered the gap and the GI is shining nice and bright.

Thanks for making a great machine that little bit better.

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#15 11 years ago

Too funny, i wonder why you would want to rectify the GI?

#16 11 years ago

Who knows. The only thing I can think of is that with the GI being normal again, the fade in the backglass is much more evident.

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