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Taxi Hardtop Install with a top side refresh

By dmacy

3 years ago


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#1 3 years ago

Documenting my first Hardtop on one of my favorites: Taxi mbaumle is having me focus on the top side as it’s mechanically and functionally 100%. I’m taking everything off the top just to make things easier to line up which will allow me to clean up everything. He has new ramps, pop bumpers and misc parts so we can make this look like a new playfield swap.

We will take a few liberties while apart to convert flippers to WPC style, pop bumper lighting to the stranded wire (vs. flat tin style) to facilitate future pop bumper tear downs. Also clean up of the drop targets with new decals and reflow of pins. He prefers incandescent so will stay as original along with new original blue start posts and lane dividers.

It’s a perfect candidate for Hardtop as there has been some creative fixes for the many inserts that are worn out. So I feel no guilt sanding the inserts down!

Usually when I do a swap, the game comes and we take the playfield out here. They take the cabinet back with them (often they will redo the cabinet) and when I’m done they bring it back and we go through and make sure everything works. That’s the case here.

Here’s a few pics including the ends where I had to remove a few pieces to fit on the rotisserie.

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#2 3 years ago

Teardown beginning:

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#3 3 years ago

Further tear down:

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#4 3 years ago

More yet further tearing down lol

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#5 3 years ago

Almost there!

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#6 3 years ago

Few more:

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#7 3 years ago

Last of top side tear down.

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#8 3 years ago

I removed the pop mechs, slings and drop units so they can be rebuilt. Looks like one of the coils for pops is not like the other so will see if we put in 23-800 that manual shows.

One of the sling brackets is wrong but he has plenty of new ones. I also pulled the two red ejects so they can get cleaned up. They’re pretty dirty.

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#9 3 years ago

Here’s where we are. Started with 220 and then to 320. This makes a mess so wonder how those do this in their homes. You will need to pull the wide and rear rails as the hardtop fits under.

Max got a 3M headlight polishing kit which I used to follow up on the inserts to avoid using clear. I think this worked well and will do a dry run testing. The sanding didn’t take very long except all the custom areas of touch up used. I dropped the flipper mechs so the bushings hung lower than the playfield before starting to sand.

I’m very happy with the results so far. It’s not too bad of a job but thankful it’s on a rotisserie and out of the cabinet in my garage. At this point it’s still less work than a playfield swap but prepare for a mess for the sanding.

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#10 3 years ago

Total star post count is 27 blue singles.

#11 3 years ago

Thanks for posting your teardown pics! I’m going to be doing a pf swap soon and they will be helpful.

#12 3 years ago
Quoted from dmacy:

Here’s where we are. Started with 220 and then to 320. This makes a mess so wonder how those do this in their homes. You will need to pull the wide and rear rails as the hardtop fits under.



At this point it’s still less work than a playfield swap but prepare for a mess for the sanding.

You need a random orbit sander that has a hookup to a dust extractor, like this one I bought explicitly for my FG restoration.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OA02TZ0/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title

This absorbs 98% of the dust, basically eliminating the dust issue.

#13 3 years ago

Here’s the sizes of the posts on my poorly drawn (not to scale!)

Ramps are spartan so not much to do. A switch on each. He has a new blue spin ramp but the red is still in good shape. I’m liking the blue so curious what others use?

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#14 3 years ago
Quoted from AUKraut:

You need a random orbit sander that has a hookup to a dust extractor, like this one I bought explicitly for my FG restoration.
amazon.com link »
This absorbs 98% of the dust, basically eliminating the dust issue.

That’s nice! I hate woodworking with a passion and I just don’t have the skills. Maybe one day I’ll get someone to teach me!

#15 3 years ago

Heads up on this plastic. You’ll need to drill out all but the one red mini star post. No big deal. Wonder if there were other versions or missed on the aftermarket ones. I taped them together with an old one on top to drill through.

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#16 3 years ago

Committed myself and it’s sealed down. Everything lines up pretty well and you have some wiggle room. I had to slightly open up the pop bumpers to fit but it was minor trimming.

All the posts are in and making progess on reassembly for what parts were reset from cleaning and tumbling. I broke a handful of post screws but had them on hand to replace. The nylon nuts are getting replaced with the original nylock nuts.

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#17 3 years ago
Quoted from dmacy:

He has a new blue spin ramp but the red is still in good shape. I’m liking the blue so curious what others use?

I’m really on the fence with that one. I will most likely go with red like factory, but that blue ramp does fit in really well...

#18 3 years ago
Quoted from dmacy:

He has a new blue spin ramp but the red is still in good shape. I’m liking the blue so curious what others use?

I want to replace the ramp on our's, and am struggling with the same decision.

I recently watched an interview with Mark Richie where he said that he originally wanted a blue ramp, but they didn't order the material in time so they just used the red material they had on hand. Looking at the blue lane guides, and the blue posts you can see that it makes sense for it to be blue.

-Paul

#19 3 years ago
Quoted from dmacy:

Heads up on this plastic. You’ll need to drill out all but the one red mini star post. No big deal. Wonder if there were other versions or missed on the aftermarket ones. I taped them together with an old one on top to drill through.

Interesting. My original plastic (and the replacement) did not have these star posts.

#20 3 years ago
Quoted from RonSwanson:

Interesting. My original plastic (and the replacement) did not have these star posts.

I think its an early run thing.

#21 3 years ago

Yes I think so too. His is a early-mid September build.

Flyer is hard to see if it has it but IPDB has some with and without.

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#22 3 years ago

Some plastic riveting.

The old:

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#23 3 years ago

New:

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#24 3 years ago

Installed the new pop spoons...

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#25 3 years ago

Drop target assemblies being torn down for cleaning.

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#26 3 years ago

Good news! We’re going blue so soon ramp was finished up.

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#27 3 years ago

Cleaned up the drop boards and reflowed pins. I like to use the rosin pen to help.

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#28 3 years ago

Here’s the drop brackets after cleaning. They look great! Waiting on the hardware to be tumbled and we can put these together with new sleeves.

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#29 3 years ago

Drop brackets rebuilt. Will get new sleeves installed when put on the playfield.

Flippers rebuilt. It was missing three of the three 6-32 nuts on the back of the one flipper so I installed some. Made sure the other side was snug. We rebuilt them with the Marco kit for Taxi and it has the ears and springs to covert to WPC style. I only had to drill the two 1/16” holes.

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#30 3 years ago

I also installed new coil sleeves and checked all the other mechs to make sure there was nothing broken. They all checked out fine.

Installed a missing wire form by the left side of the lane change. Had to bend something up but was pretty easy.

Top side is now done. Second overview picture has the flippers installed.

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#31 3 years ago

Installing a new target and using the Stern style support to keep this new one from bending backwards.

Drilled out the rivets and remove them along with the from and rear bracket. Put a new piece of foam target on and screw together. A new decal was used.

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#32 3 years ago

Top side and soldering completed. I replaced hardware with correct or new where the old didn’t look nice.

All that’s left is sling switch testing and testing the lighting.

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#33 3 years ago

It looks sooo much better with the blue spinout ramp. Great choice!

-Paul

#34 3 years ago

How freaked out where you running a sander over a playfield?

I can imagine that was a new and unusual experience! It's totally counter intuitive to what you're used to doing.

#35 3 years ago

Lol! It was like drilling a hole in my own head!

#36 3 years ago

What is the hardtop made out of, plastic?

#37 3 years ago

I believe it is. I’m not sure exactly what type.

#38 3 years ago
Quoted from dmacy:

I believe it is. I’m not sure exactly what type.

Thanks for that.

I'm interested in one of these for my Taxi (which is a bit more beat up than yours) but I'm not a fan of the way a pinball rolls around on a plastic surface. I've had a playfield protector installed on my LOTR since new, and the physics are different compared to a game without one. Your game will look amazing though, of that I'm in no doubt.

#39 3 years ago

GI tested and working.

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#40 3 years ago

Tested inserts too. Had one bad 555 but replaced and back in business. I’m testing without the diagram so we may find one or two I missed when we plug it into the cabinet.

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#41 3 years ago
Quoted from thewool:

Thanks for that.
I'm interested in one of these for my Taxi (which is a bit more beat up than yours) but I'm not a fan of the way a pinball rolls around on a plastic surface. I've had a playfield protector installed on my LOTR since new, and the physics are different compared to a game without one. Your game will look amazing though, of that I'm in no doubt.

These do not play anything like a playfield protector. They play very similar to if the machine was “upgraded” to WPC clear coat. If the ball is rolling very fast it can occasionally take a weird bounce off the flippers but that about all I have noticed. This is a good product and way more than a protector.

#42 3 years ago

I missed taking a completed and running picture but mbaumle came up and we got it up and running. Hoping he can snap some pics or video. No major issues. A couple of bulbs and adjustments and it plays great!

If you want to make your Taxi play like new, a Hardtop is great option. My butt was handed to me! It plays fast and smooth. A good shot still feels great and it doesn’t affect the play. I’m very impressed.

This was fun one to do! If you’re able to shop a pin, this is a good project. It will require you to tear it down about 2/3, but the results are like a new playfield.

#43 3 years ago

Nice job. I did this a year ago on my Taxi. Taxi is not an easy game to shop. Many things to line up and I had a bunch of adjustments I had to do afterwards. Now, it one of my best playing games. And Yes, running 250-320 grit on a playfield does send shudders down your spine...

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#44 3 years ago

Just got home from a short vacation. Set up Taxi in the garage while I make room in the basement. Plays like butter!!

#45 3 years ago

Awesome!!! Thank you for sharing video.

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#46 3 years ago

dmacy which lanes guides did you order for the top lanes?

Marcos seems to be sold out of the correct ones. Wondering if you ordered different ones.

#47 3 years ago
Quoted from Y3AG3R:

dmacy which lanes guides did you order for the top lanes?
Marcos seems to be sold out of the correct ones. Wondering if you ordered different ones.

mbaumle had them already for me to install. He should know.

#48 3 years ago

I ordered them from Marco... I looked around a bit to try to find another cross reference, but I couldn’t find them. Maybe Pinball Resource? Might be worth calling to see.

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