I have read that you should keep the cabinet speaker connected to provide better mids. Not sure if it is true, but I have my cabinet speaker connected with the external subwoofer and it all sounds pretty good. But I'm no audiophile.

So my Pinsound is on its way and will be installing in a Getaway. If I wanted to take one of Mr. Tantrum 's orchestrations and add my own music, is it as simple as dropping new music in the correct directory and convert / save as a new orchestration? How hard would this be?

Get it to work with Tantrum’s mix first. Then stick the usb drive in your computer and find the music you want to replace, and put your own tunes In. Remember they must be .wav not .mp3 files

Agree with it sounding different from different locations. Even standing to the side watching a game is way different than when you are the player. It is a difficult mix to get the best for everyone in the room.

I often find it too loud as a spectator, but fine as a player.

I guess I will owe a great thanks to Mr. Tantrum and others for doing all the heavy lifting!

Yes, read all your posts. No question manipulating files takes time with sound levels, clipping sound lengths, etc. To start I just want to ride your coat tails and make some small changes, then get into more serious editing later. I played around a bit, but the pserc files mentioned confuse me a bit. Is it just the "original" file in the download section? I couldn't seem to locate it for getaway. Will I even need it if I am working from an existing orchestration? I expect this will become move clear once the unit comes and I really get into it. Sorry for the likely dumb questions.

You don’t need the PSrec files for what you want to do, just open the usb drive on your computer, go into the folders and find the “music” folder, then play each file you find in there until you find the one you want to replace. Then just replace it - or you can just additionally add your new file in there also, and the game will randomly play one or the other song. With music it’s not hard, you’ll recognise the songs right away

My Pinsound came, and wow, does it ever make a difference. Night and day, truly impressed.

I have been playing with other music mixes based from Mr_Tantrum's mixes. I have it installed the board in my Getaway, but I am wondering what the point of having multiple song directories with very similar names. For example, why does Getaway have main_theme, main_theme_2, main_theme_3, etc? What is the purpose of these almost exact same directories?

Thes game will sometimes play the song/effect/callout from one folder. Sometimes it will play from the other. The pinsound board is emulating the sound board and this is either how the original board worked - different sound clips for slightly different circumstances, or this is an effect of how the pinsound board translates the logic of the original board

New PinSound user here, messing around with the board in a Twilight Zone. I've noticed that the amplitude of the entire Chris Granner DCS mix is too low, much lower than the amplitude of the Original Mix. Has anyone found a way to globally increase the amplitude of all wav files in the new mix? I want the amplitude to be about the same as the Original mix so I can switch back and forth between the two without readjusting the PinSound equalizer knobs or the game's volume buttons. I really don't want to open each wav file individually in Audacity in order to increase the amplitude.

there are settings in PinsoundStudio (or you can edit the config.ini file) to adjust the “ducking” settings. This “ducks” the sfx/callout audio down when music is playing, and is a global setting. Duck the sfx and callouts, jingles and “singles” (I think that’s the name) down a bunch, like to 60 or something.

I believe the guide Mr_Tantrum put together goes through this

As I understand it the pinsound board sticks to the wood surface?

I would like to switch it between games though.

Is this going to be an issue fitting and re-fitting?

Thanks

no , it fits to the metal plate , where all the boards are . just remove the old soundboard and it fits in the metal screw holes .

Thanks - I need to watch video as thought old board is left in the game.

I have a very basic question...is there only a Windows version of Pinsound Studio? If so, has anyone been able to use that software successfully on a Mac, and if so, how (Bootcamp, parallel, etc.)?

Thanks for the suggestion, I thought it was only windows, just don’t want to have to purchase a windows license just for that. I will leave it to all the PC users to create great sound packages. All those virtual windows I’ve tried are pricey for the amount of use I would need it for, almost cheaper to buy no name pc.

FYI, emailed Nicolas, and he said there are some issues with the Mac version and is working on correcting them. Thanks MrT for the thread though!

Keep in mind if you're planning to move your new PinSound board from game to game (and your games are Bally/Williams or Stern Whitestar), you'll have to decide whether or not to rewire the speakers for 2.1 sound (to get the most out of your PinSound board)... which means you'll need to rewire the speakers back to their original configuration if you put your old sound board back in. Somehow this never occurred to me until I got my PinSound board

Yes, depending on the game and how many sound files it has to convert. I just did a Getaway for a friend last weekend and there was 8 sound versions to convert. It took about 2 hours.

Any1 have any new mixes for getaway?

Yes... but hoping someone made a mix, and just never posted it to the site.

Getaway has the most mixes out of all the games. I wish the other titles had that many options. Everyone who owns a Getaway should get a Pinsound board. It is the best upgrade you can do on this title.

I would like a rock mix w some zepp/acdc/ maybe black keys...

You got it! Thx brother

So I just bought and installed a Pinsound kit last night (in my LW3). I wanted to start fiddling with the orchestrations, and go to get Pinsound Studio:

https://www.pinsound.org/help/pinsound-studio-pro/

It says "Download (Coming Soon)" and I'm not finding it in the Community section.

So, uh, where can I get this? Thanks!

Just ordered a Pinsound+ for my DM. Hoping remixes are available soon.

cabuford did you happen to take notes, or care to share your LW3 output? About to start futzing with mine, and I may do something similar.

Firmware

I see people mention firmware updates, but I'm not seeing anything on the Pinsound site. I want to make sure I have the latest and greatest. Is this just not online at the moment as they gear up with the new hardware/software?

My current versions:

INTERNAL FIRMWARE REVISION
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0072

PINSOUND FIRMWARE VERSION
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18.12.3

Volume

One more thing - I put in the board, then just adjusted the potentiometer under the playfield (Data East, LW3) to something that sounded appropriately loud, then turned down the Pinsound until it was at a reasonable volume. Is this what I should do, or is there a better way to maximize audio quality?

This is what I've got although if you've just recently downloaded the sound set, you might have the new one with longer scrambled 5 digit numbers.
I used all the music from Total Nuclear Annihilation. Video here.

001-Middle Song Ball in Play
002-Right Song Ball In Play
004-Multiball Ready
005-Multiball play
006-Right song music select
007-?
008-Mulitball after scoring jackpot
009-Middle song music select
010-short loop before multi ball from ball launch
012-Left song music select
013-unused
014-end of ball bonus collect
015-Left song music ball in play
016-quadruple jackpot?
017-game ends
018-unused
019-unused
026-video mode gunfight
054-Shoot for Mulitball restart only need 15 seconds
056-Getaway shot
062-super spinners
96 tilt
97 tilt warning
113-shoot again used
114 Match explosions
160-shoot again unused
166 Extra Ball is Lit
235 Video Fight
227 Moo cow in video mode

That is awesome @cabuford! Is this something you'd be willing to share?

Yeah, in fact they seem to be 10 digit numbers.

My numbers probably won't help much then. There are definitely a few versions of the main songs that aren't used. Pretty easy to figure out by trial and error though. Although I think if you relabel the folder names with the old numbers they still work.

I haven't shared this sound file as I used all of Scott Danesi's music and I've purchased the soundtrack. I don't want to distribute anything without his consent. TheNoTrashCougar What are your thoughts on this?

I just installed a pinsound in my DM and put in pinsound speakers. Even with the original soundtrack, it sounds awesome. Gonna hook it up to a powered subwoofer soon.

Nice..

Thanks for feedback. Excited.

I’ve got Pinsounds in my IJ and TZ. JD is next as funds allow.

I just installed my first PinSound board in a GnR and I'm loving it so far. I do, however, have a few questions about modifying one of the sound packages I downloaded. The mix contains five folders: Jingle, Music, SFX, Single and Voice. In the "Single" folder, there is a sub-folder called "1505898115-GAME OVER". This folder contains the music clip that plays after the match sequence. What I'd like to do is add a second sound clip that can also be called. It is my understanding that if you put multiple sound clips in the same sub-folder, they will be randomly played when they are called by the game. I tried this, but my new clip never plays. What am I doing wrong? Do I need to name the new sound clip anything in particular?

Also, is there somewhere I can find a list of all the events in the game and their corresponding numbers? I assumed this information would be available when I loaded the file into PinSound Studio Pro, but I don't see it anywhere. In fact, I'm a bit confused by the software. It doesn't seem like there is much you can do with it other than some basic volume settings and assigning custom shaker motor actions.

Take the existing sound out of that folder (keep it! Save it elsewhere) and leave just your sound in there. Finish a game and see if it plays. If your sound does play, you can put the original one back in there too. They will both play inside the folder.

I’m betting there’s something else going on - maybe your file isn’t the right format. It must be an uncompressed .WAV file, not an mp3, ogg or other file.