I can't see it selling in quantities for much higher. Too many out there.

I agree. I would never buy AFM regardless (but I know people love it). For the right price I would consider: MB, CV, TAF. If rules were updated and priced correctly I would also consider: TOM and TOTAN. I love JPOP's layouts but the rules seem to be consistently underwhelming (MB could use some addition rules as well).

The other consideration is MM, AFM and MB are all fan layouts and how many people are going to buy more then just one of that higher price point.

I know multiple folks that used to buy NIB every year when it was 4-6k. They now refuse to buy unless it returns to those pricing levels. The higher prices are not sustainable. Most folks have more than one hobby. For 8k you can buy an old car or halfway to a new fishing boat.

NIB pins were available with all the features for around $4k 4-5 years ago (that was with a heathy profit). They are making insane profits now.

I remember when new sterns (fully loaded SM, BDK, FYG, etc) were available for $4k NIB. I am sure there was a profit baked in.

PPS is in the business of making money. They don't just compete against Stern and JJP. But pin restorers as well.

I think Rick gave a great answer, if there is enough perceived profit they will consider.

I am curious the average price of TAF + restoration costs (self or outsourced) compared to potential TAFr. That might help Rick with is decision. I imagine that to be more then or equal to MMr price. Not that I would buy one for that price.

I would say its less than MMr to make (first pin is the hardest). TAFr at $6k would sell. There should be amble profits considering no R&D, no programming, boardset is probably already done with the MMr (not sure about this one). It's likely profitable at $4k considering those factors. It's really guessing how much profit PPS could make before severely impacting demand. Personally, I would not pay more than $6k unless it was a holy Grail pin/theme for me (which it's not).