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TAF - Bookcase Triggers with Right Flipper...

By DakotaMike

3 years ago



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#2 3 years ago
Quoted from DakotaMike:

Hey All,
I'm helping someone with their Addams Family, and I've got a weird issue that I'm not sure how to go about diagnosing. The bookcase Opto 1 will phantom trigger when the right flipper button is pressed. This happens both in switch-test and in-game. The issue is currently intermittent, but essentially game-breaking, as a player will now get points and greed letters every time they flip during a game.
I've never encountered an issue quite like this one before, and what research I've done isn't turning up a lot. But I'm leaning toward a failing or backwards diode somewhere. Which is letting back-voltage leak through to the switch matrix, which is phantom triggering the opto.

I'm going to try and follow Soren's method here, but if anyone has any ideas or knows which track I should be on, I'd appreciate the help.

If it was my game, I would start looking for a dodgy connection on the bookcase optos. You may have to reflow the solder on the opto boards or electrical connections. Check the opto electrical connections (wiring) are firm and making good contact next.

Good Luck!

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#6 3 years ago
Quoted from GRUMPY:

A lot of people add toys and crap to the games. Most of the time they will connect them to J-116, J-117 and J-118 on the PDB. The game uses these connectors for the optos. When they run out of space for their crap they add in y connectors or splitters. From to much draw I have seen the pins become burnt and need replacement along with the connectors. Start here at the PDB connector and see what you get for voltage, should get 5 and @ 14.2 volts. If that's good then find the opto board under the playfield for the bookcase, check the grey/yellow wire to the ground braid, should be @ 14 volts. If good then check the same grey wire to the black wire on the opto board connector, should still get @ 14 volts. This will tell you if the ground wire is good too.

This is really good info. Thanks very much for taking the time to post. We are getting activation of the phantom flip opto when the left flipper is activated. You have given me a great place to start looking. We have no mods.

#8 3 years ago
Quoted from GRUMPY:

Also look at the flipper diodes too.

Thanks. I have already checked all the opto connections so I know the opto is fine. When the machine is in switch test, and I activate the EOS switch on the left flipper and keep the switch closed (flipper all the way up and remaining up), the EOS switch pulses on and off so I intend to start with the diodes on that flipper.

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