Terminator 2: Judgment Day
Williams, 1991Bought a T2 the other day for $700. Shopping in out and just threw a bunch of LED in. Was powering up fine, but now nothing.
Just noticed a sticker inside that says "Vorsicth 220 volts". A reimport? Suppose that has something to do with it.
Did I blow it up? Is there something I should try? I already tried replacing the 4am SB fuse.
Thanks! Hope I didn't screw this up too bad.
Open the backbox. Any leds on the boards lit up?
If properly converted, an export game is electronically identical to a domestic.
Quoted from Rascal_H:Just noticed a sticker inside that says "Vorsicth 220 volts". A reimport? Suppose that has something to do with it.
Did I blow it up? Is there something I should try? I already tried replacing the 4am SB fuse.
A 4A slow blow fuse is correct for 220 volts. If the game is properly wired for 120 volts, use a 8A fast blow fuse. Happens a lot with reimports. Game gets rewired, but fuse doesn't get upgraded. Game often works fine with the 4A slo blo.
Quoted from Rascal_H:On my way to get fuses now. Thanks
No guarantee that will fix your problem, but that's where I would start.
Quoted from Rascal_H:They have 7.5 amp fast .. Hope that's good enough
It is.
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If you had any lights on at all when you opened the head, then it wasn't the main fuse.
Best bet is to see which LEDs are lit on both the power driver and CPU boards. Then you can figure out what's dead.
Or you can start checking fuses on the power driver board. Chances are one of them blew.
Ok, so I checked all the fuses for continuity and they were fine. Put the T2 board back in. And now for some reason it just works again. Beats me. Maybe just reseating all the connectors or fuses fixed something. So strange.
Only issue now is I have two connectors and I don't know where they go.
One has a yellow wire and and an orange wire. It has only two holes.. looks like more were cut off.
The other has what looks like a new connector, it has only two wires as well. White with red stripe in pin 1, and white with brown or violet stripe in pin 4.
Usually I can figure it out... but these look like homemade jobs.
Anyone have any ideas?
Look in the back pages of the manual. It will tell you which power board connectors are used and unused. Also the connectors are all keyed so you can't hook them up wrong except the small one can probably fit in a couple places. The manual can be downloaded from ipdb.org
Likely GI, but the colors are off somewhat.
J118 and J120 should be populated.
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The red into j120 looks wrong. The wires wouldn't be grouped to the far side of the connector. I would not plug that in there. And I agree j118 should be populated but the wire colors are wrong for that. I would be cautious plugging something into the 12v worth out being sure there also.
The pertinent part of the manual...
T2GI.jpg
That red striped wire has no business being there, unless someone spliced it onto the original wire, or unless it's actually orange.
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Quoted from Shredso:Sell it to me for $800. Quick hundo in your pocket!
Hah, I was already offered $1000.
Quoted from ChrisHibler:The pertinent part of the manual...
That red striped wire has no business being there, unless someone spliced it onto the original wire, or unless it's actually orange.
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It might be orange. Would that belong there?
That looks like J120 for the backbox insert. The T2 manual is wrong, documented that long long ago 
Trace the wires out - do they go to the lamp insert panel in the backbox?
If so, it should be wired up like this:
J120-1 - Brown
J120-2 - Orange
J120-7 - White with Brown Stripe
J120-8 - White with Orange Stripe
Now, my T2 has the backbox insert wired up with GI on the Green and Brown strings - no orange - but mine is a sample game, so it could be different.
If it's green, it connects to J120-5 (solid) and J120-10 (white w/green stripe).
Quoted from johnwartjr:That looks like J120 for the backbox insert. The T2 manual is wrong, documented that long long ago
Trace the wires out - do they go to the lamp insert panel in the backbox?
If so, it should be wired up like this:
J120-1 - Brown
J120-2 - Orange
J120-7 - White with Brown Stripe
J120-8 - White with Orange Stripe
Now, my T2 has the backbox insert wired up with GI on the Green and Brown strings - no orange - but mine is a sample game, so it could be different.
If it's green, it connects to J120-5 (solid) and J120-10 (white w/green stripe).
Yes, traced and they do go to the lamps on the backbox! Was so busy looking for problems on the playfield I didn't even notice there was no lights in the backbox.
So, these both go to J120? Does J120-1 mean pin one on J120? I shouldn't be asking so many newbie questions. Just have never really had to deal with wiring and I'm definitely not an electronics wiz.
Thanks!
Quoted from Rascal_H:So, these both go to J120? Does J120-1 mean pin one on J120?
Yes
Quoted from Rascal_H:and I'm definitely not an electronics wiz.
Well, get crackin' Start here:
http://level42.ca/files/PinRepair/System%20WPC/WPC%20part1/index1.htm
Quoted from wayout440:Yes
Well, get crackin' Start here:
http://level42.ca/files/PinRepair/System%20WPC/WPC%20part1/index1.htm
Hah, I do need to start studying more! I can shop out a game just fine and usually I take some pics when pull cables just in case things like this happen.
But, armed with the information provided by you guys I got brave and took an educated guess. It works! Backbox GI restored! Everything seems to be working.
Now to finish getting these ramps back on and I should be good to go!
Thanks everyone.
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