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T2 - Backglass Lighting Issue

By Rickj427

5 years ago


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#9 5 years ago
Quoted from Rickj427:

Thank you for the replies! After further inspection, none of the pins look to be burnt. It also looks like only the 2nd and 4th pins are being used with the plug in question and the last 3 pins have a separate plug (still plugged-in in the picture). Do you know if J120 only uses 5 pins with 2 plugs? The plug that’s still connected looks like it came that way from the factory, but I’m not entirely sure. Is there any information I can find to show what each pin connects to and what the original plug looked like? Thank you!
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Thats not normal - it is a hasty repair from someone that didn't have the parts to do it correctly. Looks like they cut off the burned/melted part of the original 11 pin IDC connector and re-used a 5 pin connector they had laying around.

Proper repair would be to replace the entire IDC connector with a new 11 pin IDC connector https://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/5792-10848-11

Or better yet a Molex-style crimp-on connector:
Housing - https://www.greatplainselectronics.com/proddetail.asp?prod=CS156-11-LR
Pins - https://www.greatplainselectronics.com/proddetail.asp?prod=08-52-0113&cat=81
Crimp tool - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007JLN93S/ref=oh_aui_search_asin_title

#12 5 years ago
Quoted from Nikrox2:

Ok, first my J115 is being redone (both the connector/pins and the board - all burnt there) -but my J120 and J121 look very different from the photos above.
Is this a diff version/rev?
Also - my GI & Back Box lighting is coming from my J115 connector (which is being replaced, but that's what led me to find the issue).
What's up? As mine "looks" factory, has one of these others been hacked to just get power to the lights? Why didn't they go back to using J115? (Or perhaps it too was burnt, so this was the quick fix?) Just throwing that out there, as I'm confused. lol (But I'm a newbie, so that happens a lot!)
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The red connector in the picture above is most likely a replacement connector. Most every game I have seen has white/cream plastic connectors.

J115 is the INPUT to the driver board for the GI. This is power from the transformer into the board.

J120 and J121 is where the power leaves the board and goes to the actual backbox or playfield.

All 3 of these connectors are subject to burning/melting.

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#16 5 years ago
Quoted from Nikrox2:

Question- got my board back and the GI is all working and the backbox lights as well. The backbox flashers do not work though
Based on some hacks I’ve seen in this machine I’m thinking the original wiring is not correct. (I’ve added some photos of the diagnostic screeens but not sure it’s wired that way )
What I’m looking for is what PIN number on my J115 would feed power to J106 pin 1 (I think. It’s the one with the red wire)
I’m thinking I may have done a bad pin job and don’t want to take them all apart on J115 Just the one that feeds power to the flashers in the head
The diagnostic shows it coming from J107. But I’m Almost positive it’s this wire from J106
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Power for the pins on J106 are input to the board on J102. That same input drives several other functions so if other flashers and such are working, I would not look at the input connector right away.

Have you checked F105?

Do the other flashers work? Both J107 and J106 get power from the same fuse for the same pins.

Have you confirmed the bulbs are good?

Re-seat the connector between the backboard and head. Look for wiring problems between the board and backboard?

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