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System 9 Repair Manual / Guide?

By Thoughtfulsardin

4 months ago


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#1 4 months ago

I am getting ready to dig into a long-term refurb project on a newly acquired Williams Sorcerer (1985, System 9) and have been dipping my toes into learning very basic electronics/circuits in preparation for my first soldering job; rebuilding the flippers is square one. This is my first game and I have no background in electronics, so a lot of this is brand new to me. I find it fascinating however and am eager to learn as I plan this project out further.

Sorcerer's manual is easily accessible, however I am also looking for a more broad guide on repairing pinball machines in general while also avoiding any information that might cloud my progress at the moment ie: tech related to EMs, later SS games etc.

I notice there are Williams-licensed guides/manuals for System 3-7, System 11+, but I haven't seen a single piece of documentation specifying System 9 tech outside of a test-board manual, which I don't believe would apply to what I am trying to do. My assumption is that this is due to the fact that only four games were made for this board and that it sort of served as a "bridge system" in some ways (though I don't really understand the how/why/what of it, if anyone would care to clue me in on the history).

Essentially, I won't be able to physically dive into this project for a few weeks and would like to learn this machine inside and out while I prepare to get my hands dirty. Any resources that fit this bill would be highly appreciated!

p.s. Sorcerer refurb progress will be tracked in this thread for anyone who might be interested in following along: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/please-help-a-total-newbie-me-restore-a-1985-williams-sorcerer-

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#3 4 months ago

Definitely get a special solenoid saver and fuse the bridge rectifiers.
https://nvram.weebly.com/wms-sss.html

#4 4 months ago
Quoted from Dart1970:

Definitely get a special solenoid saver
https://nvram.weebly.com/wms-sss.html

Haven't encountered this in the reading that I have done on Sorcerer! You're sure this applies to Sys 9 (says 3-7)?

Any way I can check to see if this has been done already? Chances are it has not but I don't want to repeat any work.

Rectifier I am planning on taking care of, but thank you for adding that!

#5 4 months ago

Here is the link to the thread. There are pics of the board and a system 9 schematic in post #13. I have these boards in my Space Shuttle and Sorcerer, cheap insurance VS damaging a system 9 board. https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/special-solenoid-saver-board-for-wms-3-7

#6 4 months ago
Quoted from Dart1970:

Definitely get a special solenoid saver and fuse the bridge rectifiers.
https://nvram.weebly.com/wms-sss.html

Quoted from Thoughtfulsardin:

Haven't encountered this in the reading that I have done on Sorcerer! You're sure this applies to Sys 9 (says 3-7)?

barakandl can answer that. He's the guy that makes & sells them.
The thread Dart1970 linked to says it will work in this post: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/special-solenoid-saver-board-for-wms-3-7#post-3470670

#7 4 months ago

A Bridge Board is also a nice solution for the fuses before the rectifiers in the backbox.
http://home.kpn.nl/inkochnito/index.htm
Available from Big Daddy Enterprises and Marco Specialties.

When you visit https://nvram.weebly.com/wms-sss.html also order a nvram for this board.
Get rid of those batteries.

Peter
http://www.inkochnito.nl

#8 4 months ago
Quoted from Inkochnito:

A Bridge Board is also a nice solution for the fuses before the rectifiers in the backbox.
http://home.kpn.nl/inkochnito/index.htm
Available from Big Daddy Enterprises and Marco Specialties.
When you visit https://nvram.weebly.com/wms-sss.html also order a nvram for this board.
Get rid of those batteries.
Peter
http://www.inkochnito.nl

Luckily the seller dumped the batts and upgraded NVram already! That's the only work he seems to have put into the game

#9 4 months ago

looks like the gas displays have been replaced with LED displays and LEDs under the playfield

Quoted from Thoughtfulsardin:

Luckily the seller dumped the batts and upgraded NVram already! That's the only work he seems to have put into the game

looks like the original gas displays have been replaced with LED displays and LEDs under the playfield

#10 4 months ago
Quoted from Rikoshay:

looks like the gas displays have been replaced with LED displays and LEDs under the playfield

looks like the original gas displays have been replaced with LED displays and LEDs under the playfield

I did that

Yes I should have mentioned that I have been experimenting with lights to find the right fit; still a work in progress.

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