Hi guys, long time studier of the word out here on pinside,
Has anyone tried removing the glass display from a high speed individual score display and soldering up the pins to a display used on later 11b models with the 4 displays on 1 pcb?
I have player 4 thats out on my Big Guns and would like to know if anyone has tried this before..
my +/- 90v are looking good at the glass pinouts off the display pcb, so im trying to isolate the issue.
Quoted from trueno92:Hi guys, long time studier of the word out here on pinside,
Has anyone tried removing the glass display from a high speed individual score display and soldering up the pins to a display used on later 11b models with the 4 displays on 1 pcb?
I have player 4 thats out on my Big Guns and would like to know if anyone has tried this before..
my +/- 90v are looking good at the glass pinouts off the display pcb, so im trying to isolate the issue.
I took one off an 11a (F14) board and used it on an HS individual display just fine, as long as you're swapping like glass (numeric versus alpha-numeric, each game has two of each) it should work.
I'm down with that, sounds like it would be easier joining the legs from the pcb to the legs off the glass rather than wicking each pcb solder point.
Thanks for the tip.
Btw, are there any other more attainable and cheaper displays that are compatible?
Current pricing makes that Rottendog dis200 seem pretty tempting
Quoted from trueno92:I'm down with that, sounds like it would be easier joining the legs from the pcb to the legs off the glass rather than wicking each pcb solder point.
Hard to explain, but not that hard to do.
Quoted from trueno92:Btw, are there any other more attainable and cheaper displays that are compatible?
Quoted from trueno92:Anyone ever try a system 9 7-digit display?
Yes they will work also.
Yes they are compatible, just last week I took both displays from a Hyper ball (same as your lower pic) and put them into my Pinbot to test (same as your upper pic) them and they worked correctly for the numeric displays. They just wont work for alpha numeric displays.
There are only so many segments in the displays and therefore only so many connections needed. I think those with additional leads were put there to just help hold the display more solidly on the board and there is no electrical connection. "Animations" are produced by the CPU turning display segments on / off in sequences.
guys, this is really breakthrough news for those of us with display issues. I am new to the pin-world and the madness it brings, is this just old news?
I am curious if they would spend the time to solder each lead as a support and just not make a better plastic holder or something like that, but if it works the way it should I would be very grateful.
still really close to pulling the trigger on a Rottendog display, but so far if i can save some coin with just an individual display - id rather go that route in the short term.
Also made some other progress on my big guns! resoldered the drop target insert boards!
Quoted from trueno92:Grumpy, did you notice?
No animations with only seven segments and a comma.
Quoted from GRUMPY:No animations with only seven segments and a comma.
You don't consider the "rolling scroll" on games like HS to be an animation?? 
Quoted from bobukcat:You don't consider the "rolling scroll" on games like HS to be an animation??
Well maybe in very basic form. They could have done much more if they hadn't gone cheap and installed 4 alphanumeric.
Quoted from bobukcat:You don't consider the "rolling scroll" on games like HS to be an animation??
That's kinda what I'm talking about. Big guns does a bit with what they had using numerics for the lower displays, but I'm just hoping it can at least display
Ball 1, never mind the targets and score scrolling - but that would be good too.
Quoted from trueno92:That's kinda what I'm talking about. Big guns does a bit with what they had using numerics for the lower displays, but I'm just hoping it can at least display
Ball 1, never mind the targets and score scrolling - but that would be good too.
If it displays (and it will according to GRUMPY so that's a yes) all the effects or animations or whatever you want to call them will work. There is nothing in any display glass that controls transitions or anything else. Each segment (or dot in the case of a DMD) is individually controlled by the Microprocessor to create whatever is being displayed at any given time.
Quoted from GRUMPY:Well maybe in very basic form. They could have done much more if they hadn't gone cheap and installed 4 alphanumeric.
4 numeric? i find alphanumeric animations pretty swanky.
Guys, thanks for all your encouragement, the lesser pin displays work perfectly. My display board has NO original lcd boards, all of them have been replaced at some point.
BUT THEY ALL Work!!
Thanks again for all the encourement and knowledge!!
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