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System 11 Club !


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#2601 25 days ago

Thank you for the link.

#2602 25 days ago
Quoted from PinballManiac40:

billsfanmd, If 12v and -12v test good, looks like I would change U1 - MC34167
Either from https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/ON-Semiconductor/MC34167TVG?qs=sGAEpiMZZMtqO%252bWUGLBzeHjEr4HqwwtH
or
https://www.greatplainselectronics.com/search.asp?pg=1&stext=MC34167TVG&sprice=&stype=&scat=
Are C1 and C3 are puffed up? If so, I would replace the 100uf with high voltage ones. This is for the 100 and -100v for the display.

Still trying to see easy stuff first....Keep thinking connector since at power on I get nothing. No GI. boot or leds on MPU. But on Rottendog the 12v. -12v and 100 test good. If I can find a local PS to swap that would be great.

#2603 25 days ago
Quoted from billsfanmd:

Still trying to see easy stuff first....Keep thinking connector since at power on I get nothing. No GI. boot or leds on MPU. But on Rottendog the 12v. -12v and 100 test good. If I can find a local PS to swap that would be great.

+12v turns into +5v via the (U3) MC34167 part. The Rottendog board is easily damaged so have to take some care removing it out of the board.

No +5v = no boot

I prefer an original power supply over a Rottendog one.

#2604 25 days ago
Quoted from PinballManiac40:

+12v turns into +5v via the (U3) MC34167 part. The Rottendog board is easily damaged so have to take some care removing it out of the board.
No +5v = no boot
I prefer an original power supply over a Rottendog one.

So if I am getting 12v on rottendog. Then the board is bad since the board makes the 5v?

I prob should not attempt that repair so I’ll see what else I can do

Hoping to find a local board I can test/swap

#2605 25 days ago
Quoted from billsfanmd:

So if I am getting 12v on rottendog. Then the board is bad since the board makes the 5v?

Correct. A power supply will convert/supply/generate the voltages needed to other parts of the game.

You can send it out for repair. If you do, I suggest having NVRAM installed on the MPU to get rid of the batteries.

#2606 24 days ago

Sign me up!!!

I just bought my first Williams system 11 pin...Big Guns!

I have tried to get this game several times before...but finally a SUCCESS!

It is one of my favorite system 11s

#2607 24 days ago

Hello my earthshaker display is out gassed and im not a fan of the LED look

I am after a original board (D-12232-1)
or just the displays (5670-12308-00)

In good working condition.
If any one has one lying around or is thinking to upgrading to LED give me a shout

Seller will need to ship to UK (can pay via paypal)

Regards
Russell

#2608 23 days ago

Anyone have some scrap backbox wiring? I'm working on a Cyclone, but I think Big Guns and Space Station would be the same. I'm specifically looking for a few inches of wiring associated with J1 and J8 on the D-8345 power supply. I'm looking at undoing some connector hacks. I believe I may have to extend the existing wiring. It would be cool to have matching color codes for my extensions.

...I'd also be interested in buying the whole wire harness. Don't care about condition.

#2609 23 days ago
Quoted from JeffZee:

Anyone have some scrap backbox wiring? I'm working on a Cyclone, but I think Big Guns and Space Station would be the same. I'm specifically looking for a few inches of wiring associated with J1 and J8 on the D-8345 power supply. I'm looking at undoing some connector hacks. I believe I may have to extend the existing wiring. It would be cool to have matching color codes for my extensions.
...I'd also be interested in buying the whole wire harness. Don't care about condition.

Bay Area Amusements sells wiring.
Go there and search "wire". Then scroll down. TONS of gauges and colors.

#2610 23 days ago

Thanks for the tip. I might do that. I'd still like to get a hold of a scrap wire harness for all the different colors and for any future projects. I once bought a box of hardware from a junked Pin*bot. It's amazing how many times that's come in handy. It beats trying to stock every little screw, washer, nut or post I might need.

#2611 23 days ago
Quoted from russdx:

Hello my earthshaker display is out gassed and im not a fan of the LED look
I am after a original board (D-12232-1)
or just the displays (5670-12308-00)
In good working condition.
If any one has one lying around or is thinking to upgrading to LED give me a shout
Seller will need to ship to UK (can pay via paypal)
Regards
Russell

Found!

#2612 23 days ago

I'm 1/6 of the way to rotordave status now.

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#2613 15 days ago

Anyone around northern VA want to trade a System 11 for a Xenon?

Machine - For Trade
Used - shows wear but 100% working and clean “I have a Xenon I'd like to use in a local trade deal for some sort of System 11 (Williams or Bally). I'm looking for a working game with better than average cosmetics. The Xenon ...”
16 days ago
Warrenton, VA
Trade

#2614 15 days ago
Quoted from GoneFishinLvMsg:

I'm 1/6 of the way to rotordave status now.
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Boom!

Diner is one of the best.

Better than taxi. There. I said it. Lollll

rd

#2615 14 days ago

What do you consider to be the best S11 rotordave?

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#2616 14 days ago
Quoted from matt_adams:

What do you consider to be the best S11 rotordave?

Hmmmm ...

I like most of them!

I would just say that F14 Tomcat is one of the better pinball machines ever made, IMO. It combines flow shots, speed, good understandable ruleset, not one but 3!! super rad flashing lights on the top that get the whole rooms attention .... it’s the whole package.

Earthshaker is cool - let down a little by some of the ruleset. (ie can’t relight the jackpot, loop the ramp, etc)

I like a lot of the weirder ones. Transporter is cool. Road kings ... space station ... Jokerz is a favourite. Underrated!

The Sys11B and C games are all good - you can really see the evolution to WPC style games coming through in Mousin, Elvira, Whirlwind...

rd

#2617 14 days ago

Why do I still want BBBB even with its reputation of being terrible? Is it really that bad? I’ve never seen one to play one. But i grew up with Bugs and the theme alone intrigues me...

#2618 14 days ago
Quoted from Completist:

Why do I still want BBBB even with its reputation of being terrible? Is it really that bad? I’ve never seen one to play one. But i grew up with Bugs and the theme alone intrigues me...

Bugs is pretty average. But if you take it for what it is, more of a kids themed game, it’s ok. The kids (and the ladies, if I’m honest) like to play it.

If you judge it against Mousin or Elvira, of course it’s crappy. lol.

rd

#2619 13 days ago

If more people were able to get some time on Mousin I have a feeling it would get a lot more hype and appreciation. After whirlwind (that I wish I never sold!) Mousin is my favorite Sys 11.

#2620 13 days ago
Quoted from rotordave:

Jokerz is a favourite. Underrated!

Yes it is!

#2621 13 days ago
Quoted from Completist:

Why do I still want BBBB even with its reputation of being terrible? Is it really that bad? I’ve never seen one to play one. But i grew up with Bugs and the theme alone intrigues me...

BBBB is the worst game i have ever played. I honestly wouldn't want one of it were a gift. I was bored on game one.

#2622 12 days ago

Maybe someone knows this answer. Are parts for the System 11 lockdown bar receiver sold individually? On my F-14 Tomcat, the sliding latch that holds the lockdown bar down isn't there.

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#2623 12 days ago

I have a Space Station (11B) that has the lock on the side of the backbox. Unfortunately I do not have the key for the backbox. Is drilling it out okay to do? I'm just concerned that it could somehow cause some damage inside the backbox.

#2624 12 days ago
Quoted from flashburn:

I have a Space Station (11B) that has the lock on the side of the backbox. Unfortunately I do not have the key for the backbox. Is drilling it out okay to do? I'm just concerned that it could somehow cause some damage inside the backbox.

If you have the key # someone might be able to gift you one. If you are to drill it out you might just drill the pins with a small bit. I have never done that but think it would do less damage to other parts. I had only one key for mine and have since replaced the locks to use the same keys

#2625 12 days ago
Quoted from Platypus:

If you have the key # someone might be able to gift you one. If you are to drill it out you might just drill the pins with a small bit. I have never done that but think it would do less damage to other parts. I had only one key for mine and have since replaced the locks to use the same keys

Is there some way to find out the key number?

#2626 12 days ago
Quoted from flashburn:

Is there some way to find out the key number?

It is often printed on the lock

#2627 12 days ago

The guy who sold me my earthshaker drilled out that side lock and there were no issues.

#2628 12 days ago
Quoted from flashburn:

Is there some way to find out the key number?

Drill it. Easy peasy. Get a small bit and drill right up the centre. Then repeat with slightly larger bits until it pops out.

Can’t damage anything. Except the lock.

rd

#2629 12 days ago

Okay, thanks guys, I'll just drill it out!

#2630 12 days ago

Speaking of backbox locks. Can someone share a good picture of the lock on an F-14 Tomcat. Inside and out shots would be super helpful. My machine is missing the whole assembly and the locks I’ve ordered don’t “just fit”.

#2631 12 days ago
Quoted from flashburn:

Okay, thanks guys, I'll just drill it out!

Check the number on the lock first and post it here. I have a pile of keys that are of no use to me. Maybe one of them is a winner.

#2632 12 days ago
Quoted from flashburn:

I have a Space Station (11B) that has the lock on the side of the backbox. Unfortunately I do not have the key for the backbox. Is drilling it out okay to do? I'm just concerned that it could somehow cause some damage inside the backbox.

Look for the key. Could be hanging somewhere on the inside of the coin door. Could be screwed to the inside of the cabinet somewhere. Could be screwed under the cabinet.

#2633 12 days ago
Quoted from rotordave:

Jokerz is a favourite. Underrated!

Someone gets it..... Aside from the music it really is a great game. One of the most reasonably priced games at the moment.

#2634 12 days ago
Quoted from rotordave:

I would just say that F14 Tomcat is one of the better pinball machines ever made, IMO. It combines flow shots, speed, good understandable ruleset, not one but 3!! super rad flashing lights on the top that get the whole rooms attention .... it’s the whole package.

A-freaking-men! I'm literally kicking myself for not adding one to the lineup sooner. I think F-14 puts many a WPC to shame... so friggen fast and fun, and with full LEDs it's just an amazing light show. I threw a party last weekend and it easily garnished the most attention out of my lineup.

I'm a little under-impressed with Diner. Of my four System 11s that I currently have working (GL, the broken-down derelict doesn't count), it's solidly in last. But when you're comparing it to Whirlwind, ES, and F-14 last isn't as bad as it seems. Maybe it'll grow on me...

#2635 12 days ago
Quoted from GoneFishinLvMsg:

A-freaking-men! I'm literally kicking myself for not adding one to the lineup sooner. I think F-14 puts many a WPC to shame... so friggen fast and fun, and with full LEDs it's just an amazing light show. I threw a party last weekend and it easily garnished the most attention out of my lineup.
I'm a little under-impressed with Diner. Of my four System 11s that I currently have working (GL, the broken-down derelict doesn't count), it's solidly in last. But when you're comparing it to Whirlwind, ES, and F-14 last isn't as bad as it seems. Maybe it'll grow on me...

I bought my first F14 in around 91-92 - even after 25 years it’s still fun to play.

Diner - like a lot of sys11s, there are a number of different ways to play it that makes it cool.

1/ collect diners for Dine time jackpot
2/ build up left ramp value with repeated shots
3/ shoot the right ramp and open the cup for big points
4/ multiball

Probably more that I’m forgetting.

Dig into it, I’m sure you’ll like it.

rd

#2636 12 days ago

Just picked up a Jokerz anyone have an original manual?

#2637 11 days ago
Quoted from freddy:

Just picked up a Jokerz anyone have an original manual?

There is a few on ebay.

#2638 11 days ago
Quoted from mantz88:

There is a few on ebay.

Want an original

#2639 11 days ago

System 11 test bench, a friend of mine has this, cool stuff

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#2640 11 days ago
Quoted from cletus14:

Check the number on the lock first and post it here. I have a pile of keys that are of no use to me. Maybe one of them is a winner.

There wasn't a number on it, but it popped open shortly after I started drilling into it. So that was easy at least! Thanks.

#2642 11 days ago
Quoted from Chosen_S:

System 11 test bench, a friend of mine has this, cool stuff
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Nice and you are in Texas!

#2643 11 days ago
Quoted from Chosen_S:

System 11 test bench, a friend of mine has this, cool stuff
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My buddy has an original Williams one.

Looks a little like an old 3-in-1 stereo system. All made of wood grain melteca board.

Has a panel with all the switches on it. Pretty cool.

rd

Edit - found a picture of one on the net. My mates one is the same.

rd

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#2644 10 days ago

is there a pool sharks club?

#2645 10 days ago
Quoted from ChrisS:

is there a pool sharks club?

rd

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#2646 9 days ago
Quoted from yzfguy:

The guy who sold me my earthshaker drilled out that side lock and there were no issues.

Yup, and I took the drilled out lock and replaced it. I had a spare. Took me 5 minutes to swap out.

#2647 8 days ago

Got all my System 11's together for a group photo (ok, yes, I know Phantom isn't really a System 11, but it looks and plays like one, so I'm counting it!)

Chris

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#2648 8 days ago
Quoted from SilverUnicorn:

Got all my System 11's together for a group photo (ok, yes, I know Phantom isn't really a System 11, but it looks and plays like one, so I'm counting it!)
Chris[quoted image]

Nice photo Chris, but the Phantom definitely does not count!

#2649 8 days ago

Here is my partial group photo. 3 A’s and 1 B. My A collection is complete with Pinbot in another row.

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#2650 8 days ago

I was really hoping to score an Earthshaker playfield from cpr to do a total restoration but have missed out on their run of them. The playfield I have isn’t terrible, but it is far from perfect. Anyone have an idea as to where I may get find one? I have spent hours on the net with no luck.

Scoot.

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