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Feeling the power of the wind.

Picked up a Whirlwind recently. In decent shape. I had to de-rainbow-puke it, rivet one target and replace another broken one.

Question: When a ball is in the shooter lane for a period of time, the game goes into a ball search. Is this normal?
Shooter lane switch is working correctly.

No.

Does it have a pink connector on the switch? Yes, cut it off and solder wire to the switch.

Switch

Shooter lane - Switch-Matrix: Switch 59, Row: White-Orange, Column: Green-Gray.

Looks like I have an issue: The diode is correct, however, I have a White-Red wire soldered to the same terminal as the White-Orange.

I'll try cutting the White-Red and check the White-Red row to see where the errant wire should belong.

Thanks.

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You can narrow it down slightly by unplugging large banks of targets if that is an option (I think diner has at least one bank of drop targets doesn’t it?)

Looking at the schematic, the White-Red and White-Orange share a jumpered connecter at the board. I thought that might be an issue.

I clipped the White-Red wire and the switch was dead. Hmmm...

But after tracing wires back, the White-Red wire in the picture turned out to be a White-'Reddish Orange' and not White-Red. There are definitely two different shades of orange in the White-Orange wiring.

I'll try GRUMPY 's suggestion next and remove the pink connector and solder directly.

I have a Diner, Taxi, F14, and Police Force on route. My biz partner has a WW and we both have High Speed projects. Diner tends to compete with my AFM as far as earnings go, and AFM was 6.5X the cost. Sys11s are great games, but are also great bang for the buck.

I’m starting a Transporter project, next to impossible to find parts... please help an insane person out

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/transporter-the-rescue-rescue

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Damn, you better wear a breathing filter mask and gloves when you tear into that.

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Hey club! Joining soon hopefully today. Can someone tell me, are the cabinet dimensions the same for a WPC cabinet vs a System 11? My 2002 CRV fits a 90s WPC game barely, so curious if I'll have any trouble with an F14 Tomcat in the same space. Thanks!

Should be the same by looking at my pins, but f14 at the opposite end of the line of 10 pins, but can’t see any notable differences

Dimensions are the same.

Confirmed by it fitting in my car the exact same way as my T2. Thanks! Excited to be part of the club! Love F14!

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Woo hoo, F14 in da house!

Just picked this F14 up! Starting to go through it and de-glitch it.

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YES!!

Bro, you have no idea how excited I am to have this project, even if I find a full machine, I’m still going through with the process. But I need parts!!!

Anyone have a 3 bank drop target set from whirlwind, Radical, pool sharks, big guns? I just need 1 more set, including the opto board that comes on it, for a decent price ??

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Radical (System 11C) has different boards to the one you've pictured that uses a single connector in the middle for both power and signalling:
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Space Station (System 11B) uses the same board as you've pictured (I think):
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You’re right! Thanks, so yes, I need the one I pictured, omit Radical

Marco had a universal one that is supposed to work with many System 11 games but they are out of stock.

http://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/C-13205-1

Not that you care, but I had to pay a bit more than this for a Whirlwind specific opto off of Ebay today. Boo.

Thank you!

A few gracious pinsider sold me theirs!

Now I need the bowl that goes on top of the crossover ramp and various plastics

Your all set on drop mechs and opto boards? You rock man. This is really coming together.. Hopefully Freeplay40 changes his mind on that bowl cover for the crossover ramp. There is a quite a few out there that were damaged by the flasher bulb.

If I decide not to do the cover I will give you the one I have....It's not perfect but better than nothing!

Good day folks.

Question is there a way to lower the default high scores on my F-14 Tomcat? I want my kids to be able to compete against each other and get excited about entering their initials but the default high scores start around 3,500,000 points and that's just not realistic for them at the moment.

Yes. Head into the settings, crank the backup highscores (Adjustment numbers 14, 15, 16, 17) way down (eg. click into manual/down, hold start until you get to 0 or something, then auto/up, adv to the next one), then reset the high scores.

I also usually turn OFF high score resets (adj 22 from memory).

See the manual for further details: http://mirror2.ipdb.org/files/804/Williams_1987_F_14_Tomcat_Full_Manual.pdf

Yes It’s coming along! Doing my best to collect every part... the plastics are going to be the biggest challenge.

dozer1 Freeplay40 if you guys don’t figure out a way to reproduce this piece, I’ll jump in and help figure out something!

A Sys11 trick for those who don’t know -

When making adjustments (as per above) when you hold the start button the digits advance forward.

If you want to go backwards, push the centre adjustment button down (it locks) and the digits go backwards. Nicccceeeee

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edit: The same question is both here and the f-14 thread and I answered it in both, but slightly different posts. That's what's confused me.

Im having an issue with pool sharks. letter "O" on the 4 bank targets isalways opens on that drop target. Right when the ball is plunged it credits the "O" target as being hit. also during teh gaem if targets are completed, it will start off with "O" being collected immediately. even if i unplug the harness at that drop target assembly, it still does it. i did replace the opto initially and it still had the issue. so i assume the drop target opto board isnt at fault, correct?
this machine has had this issue since i purchased it. all other switches work correct in the game

Some of these issues can be like finding a needle in a haystack.

First off, I would get the switch matrix, and follow the row and column of the affected switches and check for loose/broken diodes on the other switches.

You can also check the CPU for errors by removing the rows and columns molex plugs and using a jumper lead across the plugs. This discounts the CPU as being a problem. Then you know the issue is on the playfield.

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What would sys 11c boards be worth? I have a Top Dawg bowler that I am about to give up on. I just spent over $250 having the mpu and power supply rebuilt by Chris Hibler. I think its time to stop throwing good money after bad.

Unfortunately, the 11c board is the one with the least compatibility, as it is completely missing the sound section. If it is a known working board, I image you could get somewhere between $150 to $200 for it.

I need a system 11b, but I Have an 11c

Anyone have a parts list of what to populate the sound section with?

Are the sys 11 displays interchangeable between pinball machines and shuffle bowlers? Would the display driver board from a shuffle bower work in a pin?

There are several different System 11 displays. Some have individual boards; some combined boards; some are 16-alpha while others have some alphanumeric, some numeric, and credit/match display. Which shuffle bowler is it?

It is a Top Dawg, has six individual displays and one credit display.

Back at my old condo. I have a house now and the games are in the basement soon to be joined by the other system 11 games I have. Will post pics of that when the gameroom is more setup:

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Added over 6 years ago: Oh yeah... Sign me up!

Love it Pinwizkid each pin gets their own fluffy carpet!

Sounds like the couch and tv are going bye bye.

I need ramps for Transporter... all three except the crossover, can a few of you fellows that need ramps for transporter please send Freeplay40 a message or post on his ramp thread that you are interested?!?

He has the ramps in question and can produce them if there’s enough interest...

Or if you want to sell me yours, I will take the 2 that are on the rear left, the one on the right I might attempt making a wire form , maybe. Maybe not

Hey Brendan, congrats on the house! Kelly and I bought one last year also, finally enough room for my collection (and a few to come) in the basement.

I dig the “power-up” foot rests. Very clever.

Congrats to you as well! I loved my condo and having those 4 pins together was great, but the all the additional open space in the basement is worth it!

Still working on a Space Station with boot up issues. It will only boot randomly. What I have just found is that if I leave the machine on for an hour (in the state where the cpu didn't boot), when I come back to it, it seems to boot fine. So, something seems to be heating up and then making the required connection for the cpu to boot. Does that point to a cracked solder joint somewhere on cpu, or a power supply issue?

Voltages seems good, and power supply caps have been replaced.

Sign me up! I have a High Speed already and a Cyclone coming tomorrow!

Check for burnt connectors going to and from the transformer, or cold solder joints on the power supply board

11b - Does anyone know if there are supposed to be diodes on the Pop Bumper solenoids?