(Topic ID: 105338)

Sys 11C MPU issue

By Andy_B

9 years ago



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#1 9 years ago

I have a Rollergames that is next in the queue to be raised form the dead. Had a fair amount of corrosion on the MPU board that required me to replace the entire reset section and I would say the effects of the leaky batteries are visible over half the board but no worse that turning the solder pads a dull grey.

After finally getting Leon's test ROM to work (had to replace U38) I get all the PIA outputs pulsing as expected but with game ROMS installed I can't get a blanking signal when booting on the bench. I just get the 5v LED lit. My first question is will the board light the blanking LED when booting on the bench and not connected to the pin? This is my first Sys 11 MPU problem.

Despite the lack of blanking LED, when I power on the board the reset pin goes low momentarily then high so I believe that is OK. I get clock activity, IRQ, VMA and all the address and data lines on the 6802 are pulsing.

Before I start shotgunning the blanking circuit components does anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks

Andy

#2 9 years ago

Mark's law of Blanking: "blanking will always be zero unless the board has successfully booted with the game ROMs". Note in this statement "The game ROMs". If you are testing your board using the test chip, the blanking signal may or may not be present. Blanking can only be successfully tested once your board is running properly with the game ROMs. Consider a failed blanking signal a symptom, not a cause of the problem.

#3 9 years ago

I am aware of this but can't understand what the problem is likely to be if Leon's test runs ok and the game ROMS and sockets are new and buzz out ok.

#4 9 years ago

The blanking circuit must be inactive for the CPU board to boot. The blanking circuit is reset by the display strobes. Blanking problems can also be caused by a short in any connecting logic chips.

Quoted from Andy_B:

I would say the effects of the leaky batteries are visible over half the board but no worse that turning the solder pads a dull grey.

Acid damage over half the board is huge, IMO. You can't really trust your eyes, as corrosive effects can be so small they require a scanning electron microscope to see.

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