Quoted from Nikrox2:Like the front cover is gone ???
That transistor has exploded from high voltage getting on to the low voltage circuit, most likely from someone adjusting a pop bumper switch with the game on.
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Quoted from Nikrox2:Like the front cover is gone ???
That transistor has exploded from high voltage getting on to the low voltage circuit, most likely from someone adjusting a pop bumper switch with the game on.
Quoted from Nikrox2:Back to the real issue. No “Special” solenoids worked during diag.
I would look at u-49 first.
Quoted from Nikrox2:All was working fine until I soldered the loose wire and diode at the switch for the drop target. (Took all that back apart still it works but still have these issues). Ugh!
Take a pic of the wires that you soldered and where you had connected them.
Quoted from Nikrox2:One was loose. As was the diode.
Could the loose wire have possibility touched the coil wire above before you found it.
Quoted from Nikrox2:This is probably where we fried it.
This didn't do anything but stop some switches from working.
Quoted from Nikrox2:I still have the other jet bumper and kickers not working. Will replacing the one transistor fix those as well?
No. You need to let us know exactly which coils don't work, this helps pinpoint the problem.
If you disconnect J-8 and J-10 from the CPU board, then power on the machine. Open the coin door and lock down the middle button. Press the advance button once, then unlock the middle button. Press the advance button 5 times and lock down the middle button right away. You are in coil test now and it is repeating solenoid #1. Now each time you press the advance button one time you will advance to the next solenoid. Go thru and test each solenoid and compare to the manual page #2. There should be 26 solenoids, note down the number of the solenoids that don't work. Let us know what you find.
Quoted from Nikrox2:#12 I don’t see any movement but I hear a slight sound. All others work
A slight clicking sound is fine.
Quoted from Nikrox2:It’s 17-22 not working
Check F-2 and F-4 fuse on the power supply. One of these maybe burnt.
If you look at the top of the power supply there is a label showing all the connections and the fuses.
Left one is burnt, right is questionable. Do you have another fuse? If so turn on the game first and then touch the fuse to the fuse holder. Do you hear any coil locking on?
The coil is stuck and not making noise anymore because it isn't moving. Turn it off and move the coils by hand looking for a stuck of dragging plunger.
Quoted from Nikrox2:Center eject stays down when stroked
Sounds like this needs some work.
Quoted from Nikrox2:I could then uSe the fuse and it’s the left kicker activating
Cut and insulate the thin wire off of the coil.
Tomorrow find some more 2.5 amp fuses and replace F-2 and F-4 on the power supply. Then rerun the solenoid test, all coils should work except for the left kicker.
Quoted from Nikrox2:I rechecked and although it has never showed signs of trouble the center eject once pushed down very slowly went back up.
Needs a new sleeve and clean/polish the plunger, then it will work like new.
Quoted from Nikrox2:Looked to be sure switches weren’t closed on this left kicker, so confused as to why it’s stuck on?
It just happens sometimes, 30+ years old electronics. Shit happens.
Quoted from Nikrox2:$6 for 10 and free over night shipping.
Not a bad price.
Quoted from Nikrox2:I take it I can put one of these in both the # 4 and # 2 locations?
Yep.
You should buy yourself a early Christmas present, a DMM. You need to check the ohms on the coil that locked on to insure that it's not shorted out. Then you need to replace the diode on the coil with a new one, the silver band facing the red power wire.
Quoted from Nikrox2:Or were you talking of the diode right on the coil for the kicker
Correct, this coil has been locked on a number of times now. That does damage to the diode, so you need to replace it.
Quoted from Nikrox2:To replace the diode on the original issue switch
I would replace this diode to. It should look like this. (pic below).
switch (resized).jpgQuoted from Nikrox2:I removed the wires and tried touching them to the opposiste tabs but that didnt work..
You can't switch the wires on a coil that has a diode on it. This pic of yours is the correct way the wires need to be connected. The red wire is the power wire and it must be installed on the same side that the diode band is. Reversing the wires causes a dead short thru the diode when the coil fires, this will damage the diode and the drive transistor.
pasted_image (resized).pngHere is a couple of pics to try to clarify what I mean. It doesn't matter which way a coil is mounted, it doesn't matter which way a diode is installed, but it DOES matter which way you mount the wires when there is a diode on a coil. Always put the power wire(s) on the silver banded side of the diode.
coil 1 (resized).jpgcoil 1 (resized).jpgcoil 2 (resized).jpgcoil 2 (resized).jpgQuoted from Nikrox2:Still getting hot coil as if there’s a stuck switch.
Turn off the power.
Remove J-18 and J-19 from the cpu.
Take your voltmeter set to ohms and test Q-75, black lead on ground and red lead to the metal tab of Q-75. what do you read?
Quoted from Nikrox2:you can see in that original photo a small piece of the green wire
This really blue with a brown stripe. You can find this on page 2 of the manual. It is also smaller in diameter then the red wire. Just so you know the larger wire(s) on a coil is the power wire.
Quoted from Nikrox2:Checked and I’m getting a 0.3
Quoted from Nikrox2:It does look like some recent “sweating “ below Q75?
Q-75 is bad for sure.
Quoted from Nikrox2:You don’t happen to have the number on those do you ?
TIP102, 1n4401 and 1n4007.
Quoted from Nikrox2:Wonder what caused it to go bad is the question ??
I would check ZR-4 for a short if you have these on that the board. Maybe U-45 is going bad causing the locked coil.
Quoted from Nikrox2:Cant find any thing for the 1n4401 diodes
My mistake, should 2n4401
Quoted from Nikrox2:This is what shows for the original search on TIP102
TIP102G is fine.
2n4401ap
That should be fine.
To check ZR-4 for a short you need to remove 1J-19 and 1J-18 from the cpu board then power game on and test 1J-18 pin 5 with your voltmeter.
Early boards didn't come with zener diodes in the design. They were added in the 11A design. So on some boards the factory added them to the back of the board. So if the test shows 5 volts then there is no zener diode or the one installed on the back is good. If it shows zero volts then the zener diode is shorted and needs replacing. Yes, black lead on ground.
1547602171183-973194458 (resized).jpgQuoted from Nikrox2:The TIP102G - replace Q75 ?
The 1N4007 - replace the diodes on the coil, switches ?
The 2N4401AP - replace Q-74?
Yep,yep and yep.
You can check the zener diode before or after your choice.
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