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Switch Matrix gone Crazy! Barracora

By Pinballrus

10 years ago


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#1 10 years ago

After finally believing I had all issues sorted out with my Barracora rescue, the switch matrix has now gone nuts!

The only 2 rows that are still functional are rows 5 & 6.

Pushing a switch on the others will trigger all switches for that row!

I've given it a good visual inspection, but haven't seen anything suspicious. I also disconnected and reconnected the connectors, with no difference.

Both the Power Board and CPU / Driver board are brand new rottendogs.

Is this likely a board issue? Or a Playfield issue? Seems strange to have board issues with the new ones.

Where can I start to to get this girl back up and running?

#4 10 years ago
Quoted from Xenon75:

I would look to see if a diode has come loose, is shorting to a coil bracket, etc first. There could have been a short of the solenoid voltage to the switch matrix for instance already going on in the game and when you put the new boards in, poof good bye switch matrix PIA.

I think I've checked the diodes, but will go back over them.
Oh man, I hope it's not the PIA (Edit - Realized these are now socketed! Woohoo!)

The game *was* working for a about a dozen games, and then all of a sudden started acting up in the middle of a game.

I do have a DMM.

#6 10 years ago
Quoted from Xenon75:

What did it do when it started acting up?

Everything was working fine during the middle of a game, I think I went over the center rollover switch (not positive that was the one) and shit went crazy, the bell rang, credits added, game reset (maybe highscore reset?)

In the switch test mode, you register all switches in a row with a single switch.

#8 10 years ago

Thanks will follow your instructions tonight and report back. Realized the PIA would be much less of a big deal now that it is socketed!

#10 10 years ago

Did the test above and found it's column 3 that is messed up. Any thing that touches that will trigger an entire row of switches. I swapped the PIA with no luck.

#12 10 years ago

Because it's an aftermarket board, I'm not positive which chip that is anymore! I took some photos, maybe you can help me identify?

In the second photo, c151 is the bad column. I tried to trace where it went into, but was slightly confused. Any thoughts?

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#13 10 years ago
Quoted from Xenon75:

It's probably the 7406. Did you find what caused it?

I'm not sure about this, I found a couple diodes that may have touched metal. Would this be enough to cause a short and fry the chip? It's hard to say if they were the culprit since it wouldn't fix anything to move them away from the metal.

#15 10 years ago
Quoted from vid1900:

I'd give Jim at Rottendog a call and he will walk you though it.
I can't read the chip numbers on my phone, but it looks like he has replaced the two normal 7406 chips with a single chip (probably the socketed 24 pin chip).
Also note that for future repairs, Leon's test chip code is already installed on the board (how cool is that???):
http://rottendog.us/images/MPU327%20Install.pdf

Cool, just spoke with Jim and he identified the chip for me.

Thanks for the help all!

#16 10 years ago

New chip installed and we're back in business!

Thanks for all the help everyone! And props to Jim at Rottendog as well!

#20 10 years ago
Quoted from vid1900:

Oh, and what was the chip?

Ended up being the socketed chip in the 2nd pic, the one on the right side. I don't have the # on hand. Love those socketed chips!

#22 10 years ago
Quoted from practicalsteve:

Hope its fixed for good this time!

Ha! You and me both! You better come by and get some games in while it's still playing!

#28 10 years ago
Quoted from Spybryon:

I will be there to help play soon!

Sure - you're welcome to come get some games in

Edit - Didn't realize that was you John. See ya tomorrow

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