Quoted from delt31:
thats crazy it even got that high. Game is garbage and I've played it a number of times. Huge disappointment.
You're playing it wrong.
I don't judge a game based on how much I spent on it. I really don't care at all about resale value when I get the game - I'm buying it because it's a great game or it's a theme I love. I've gotten 3 NIB games: WOZ ECLE, GOT LE, and SWLE. All three are great, and all three aren't leaving my collection any time soon. This is a hobby. Hobbies tend to cost money. So I pays the money and I enjoys the machine and let others worry about treating pinball as an investment (a stupid one, btw...).
I truly believe SW is a great game...and the code is still in its infancy.
Quoted from o-din:
As long as it isn't your mission to make them change their mind, you have nothing to stress about.
You can't change negative people. And there sure are a LOT of then around here. Such an uplifting place...you can pretty much count on a bitchfest every time a new game is released. It's pretty depressing, actually. Even games I have no interest in I find to be a lot of fun. But then again, I just love playing pinball.
I must be pretty stupid, huh?
I never crapped on that game. I just said it had clown puke art like Aerosmith and other recent Stern titles. I hate that Skittles look on games. I also said the playfield art on GOT LE, which I own, sucked balls too. I'm pretty honest even if I own a game. But the gameplay on BM66 is pretty lacking...which is a shame because I was a huge fan of the show growing up.
EDIT: I think the difference here is that I NEVER say a game is a piece of shit. Not really sure how anyone can claim to love pinball and make a statement like that. Don't like it? Fine. But be respectful of the people that do. They're not stupid. I've been respectful of people who love Hobbit, but that game puts me to sleep.
Quoted from cooked71:
Wasn't specifically aimed at you beelzeboob . But now you gave me some evidence that you also did, you suck also..
Its all good fun - I find it funny we get so defensive about these things - you either like it or not - who cares.
Looking back over the BM66 thread, the thing that's REALLY annoying there is all the people that were claiming people who didn't have the SLE or the LE were just jealous. That's a ridiculous claim to make with some people here that have over $100k worth of machines. Clearly they can afford one, but choose not to buy. Calling somebody jealous for criticizing a machine is just childish. Everybody is allowed to have an opinion about a machine...I just wish people wouldn't confuse opinion with fact.
Douchiest thing people can do on Pinside, btw: Saying "Fact" after they just stated an opinion. Makes you sound like a dumbass.
Quoted from o-din:
The truth is boob, you can't make everybody give a positive review of every game no matter how hard you try and no matter how much you want every comment to be positive. If that happened then we would all be like sheep accepting anything that comes our way.
The world is full of critics. Movie critics, book critics, music critics, and here pinball critics. And without them, you end up with people accepting whatever is spoon fed to them and the quality of the end product deteriorates with each new venture.
But go ahead, if you like and think everything about this industry is a positive experience, and live happily ever after.
This is all true. But it seems like the critiques are predominantly negative--or at least the most vocal of us are negative--and its f**king depressing. I can see why Steve Ritchie was bitching about this forum. It's gotta be disheartening to see your work raked over the coals, especially when he most likely has no control over BOM and financial decisions.
It's not what people are saying around here, after all...it's the way they're saying it. Maybe I just need another break.
When Picasso was in middle school...
And btw...the dude puts both eyes on one side of a person's head, so you might actually be right about this. Picasso also looks like ass to me.
Quoted from pinnyheadhead:
Online is the way to do this because no one has balls enough to vent off to someone face to face about how much they hate a game if the person they are taking to likes it.
I do. It's just an opinion, and I don't lose respect for a person just because they love something I can't stand or vice versa. If anyone takes offense to an opinion, they're just not somebody I'd want to hang around with.
Quoted from T7:
You're totally skipping how the opinion is expressed. Someone can state an opinion in a cordial, adult manner - or like a complete A-Hole. An opinion expressed in the complete A-Hole manner is not "just" an opinion. Thus is many times the issue.
Absolutely correct! But I'm pretty sure I'm in the first camp of people when stating my opinion...unless I'm tweaking somebody that was being an asshole to begin with.
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