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Surf Champ , Slow , playfield restoration

By phototamer

5 years ago


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#101 4 years ago

The area that was sanded beyond the paint is corrected , along with other minor touch ups. The area is not visible to the player but I feel I need to correct every inch of the playfield , visible or not.

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#102 4 years ago

When the final coat of clear is applied everything is going to "melt" together beautifully
I am not sure though how to proceed with the decals covering the star roll overs. One option is to leave them as they are so as to act as a barrier to the clearcoat , and cut the star hole with a xacto after the clear is cured. another option is to remove teh inside of the decal before clear coating and close the hole with some reversed plastic stars. I am leaning towards the second option .

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#103 4 years ago

It’s really looking great.

#104 4 years ago
Quoted from Silverstreak02:

It’s really looking great.

Thank you

#105 4 years ago

Looks great, excited to see it with the final clear!

#106 4 years ago

looking awesome, great work

#107 4 years ago
Quoted from phototamer:

close the hole with some reversed plastic stars. I am leaning towards the second option .

This is the method I TRY to remember to use!

#108 4 years ago

I feel bad for using terrible language, but I just can't think of another way to say it. F*#%king Fantastic.

fan·tas·tic
/fanˈtastik/
adjective

extraordinarily good or attractive.
"they did a fantastic job"
synonyms: tremendous, remarkable, great, terrific, enormous, huge, striking, impressive, outstanding, phenomenal, monumental, overwhelming

#109 4 years ago
Quoted from Atari_Daze:

This is the method I TRY to remember to use!

I will sprinkle some old plastic stars on the playfield , hoping that I will remember to cover the star roll over holes this time !

#110 4 years ago
Quoted from xsvtoys:

I feel bad for using terrible language, but I just can't think of another way to say it. F*#%king Fantastic.
fan·tas·tic
/fanˈtastik/
adjective
extraordinarily good or attractive.
"they did a fantastic job"
synonyms: tremendous, remarkable, great, terrific, enormous, huge, striking, impressive, outstanding, phenomenal, monumental, overwhelming

Ha ha .. This is so encouraging !!

#111 4 years ago

Ok , managed to print my color decals . and getting ready to see if the color is a good match ...

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#112 4 years ago

Looks ok to my eyes. After putting the decal in place I noticed that there is a small gap all around the are. I will have to paint the area around the decal with matching red before putting the decal in place.

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#113 4 years ago

Then I thought .. why dont you paint all the white are in red , so as to get a uniform color ? .. big mistake , since the decal is not totally opaque , so the red color shows through the white letters making them a bit pinkish.
this happens when you haste things !

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#114 4 years ago

So , removed the center portion of red so as to make the white ... white again .

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#115 4 years ago

Everything is ready for the final clear coat. Oops , almost forgot , again , to deal with the star roll over holes I decided to remove the center portion of the decal and cover the holes with some old plastic stars .

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#116 4 years ago

The playfield is sitting in its case ready to be clear coated. I will also clear coat the side rails now that I have the chance.

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#117 4 years ago
Quoted from phototamer:

cover the holes with some old plastic stars .

#118 4 years ago
Quoted from phototamer:

The playfield is sitting in its case ready to be clear coated. I will also clear coat the side rails now that I have the chance.[quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]

Amazing job. I wish I had your skills!

#119 4 years ago

I had just enough clear coat for this time. Maybe a tad less that I would like , but today was the only day I could have done this and there was no way I could have gotten more clear. Guess I will have to be more prepared next time I will let the playfield sit 2 or 3 weeks and after block sanding with 600 grit sandpaper will decide if I will give it another final coat.

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#120 4 years ago
Quoted from PinJim:

Amazing job. I wish I had your skills!

You could do it too . You need patience and taking things step by step . you cannot rush it .

#121 4 years ago
Quoted from phototamer:

I had just enough clear coat for this time.

Curious if you use the method Vid discusses where you dust over the final work with the clear twice (a few moments apart) to seal the waterslide decals then do a final thick coat or do you just give it a full coat?

I've done it with dust coats but have thought I would try and rush one time and do a full heavy coat.

#122 4 years ago
Quoted from Atari_Daze:

Curious if you use the method Vid discusses where you dust over the final work with the clear twice (a few moments apart) to seal the waterslide decals then do a final thick coat or do you just give it a full coat?
I've done it with dust coats but have thought I would try and rush one time and do a full heavey coat.

I do it the Vid Way. I "dust" once , wait for 15 minutes and then give another 2 light coats with the same 15 minute flash time in between. That way the clear cures better in my opinion. I bet is more secure to just bond the decals with the playfield before applying a wet coat. I dont think that the decals will melt and the toner spread around with a first wet coat , but better safe than sorry.

#123 4 years ago

I've followed this forum from the start. Wow what a amazing job. Can't wait to see it plugged in and lights on. Super Surf Champ

#124 4 years ago

Waiting for the clear to cure , it is a good time to try and restore the spinning target. The graphics are not perfect imo. I did order a complete set of decals for the apron , spinning target , and drop targets from Pinball Rescue. When they arrive I will compare them with my own. If they are better I will redo the drop targets and spinning target. To let the colors of the decals "shine" it is best to have a white surface for the decal to sit on. I tried to paint the metal surface white with a small brush , but the result was not good. I would have to do that with an airbrush to get the smooth and even color I was after.

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#125 4 years ago

An easier , faster and cleaner method is to put an empty white decal on the metal surface so as to create a perfect surface for the actual color decal to sit on.

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#126 4 years ago

Both decals applied on top of the white empty decal.

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#127 4 years ago

To protect the surface from the multiple hits of the ball some people suggest to use Mylar. I found though that transparent packaging tape works beautifully on all sort of drop or spinning targets. Caution is needed when applying though , since the decal underneath is very sensitive and can break with the slightest attempt to lift the packaging tape to correct any mistake.

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#128 4 years ago

Tape applied and target ready for battle

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#129 4 years ago

Tape applied and target ready for battle

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#130 4 years ago

Decided to block sand with 400 grit , and make sure the playfield is flat, with a final clear coat. Photos taken just after the last clearcoat. This time I had the amount needed.
Will definitely leave it to cure for a couple of weeks before I block sand progressively to 2000 grit.

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#131 4 years ago

Since I do not have a rotisserie , I made one from scraps I had around , with the frame i use to clear the playfield. Consider this one a poor man's rotisserie

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#132 4 years ago

Broomstick for the axles , pegs for stopping the rotation and 2 stands for... support.
Strengthening the hole that will support the playfield..

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#133 4 years ago

Creating the axles that the contraption will pivot on.

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#134 4 years ago

Placing some angle iron to hold the playfield.

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#135 4 years ago

Putting a stopper to each axle making sure the playfield stays put.
Works ok . Not very elegant but completely functional. Will add some pegs to be able to lock the playfield horizontally or vertically.
I only spent 8 dollars to make the 2 wooden supporting stands so I am happy with the result

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#136 4 years ago

I see you are working barefoot in the shop, just getting into the theme of the Pin, I guess

#137 4 years ago
Quoted from ReadyPO:

I see you are working barefoot in the shop, just getting into the theme of the Pin, I guess

Here it is 40 Celsius . It is good that you can only see my feet and not my whole body

#138 4 years ago

The drop target assembly needs to be disassembled. Some people like to cut a way for the drop targets to be removed. I like to leave things as they are if I can.
Removing the targets is easy after all.
Back plate removed.

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#139 4 years ago

Lower plate removed revealing the way to remove the targets. Taking care not loose the springs is the only difficulty.

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#140 4 years ago

A bit of scrubbing and rubbing makes things much cleaner. For now I will clean and / or replace springs since the action is a bit lazy.
They look good enough . I do not have new white drop targets , I will have to wait to accumulate a bunch of things to order from Marco since shipping here is astronomical.

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#141 4 years ago

I will try and superimpose the white decals on top of the original and see how they look.

#142 4 years ago

Awesome job! I can't wait to see it when you are finished.

Are you going to re-finish the cabinet too?

How's your backglass? Mine had significant flaking in the reds, so I got a repro from bgresto. It's very nice, but not as good as a screened glass. I haven't searched for a year or two to see if anyone made a re-screened glass. Seems like someone would, this title always seems to suffer from flaking in the reds.

Anyhow, following this thread. Nice work!

#143 4 years ago
Quoted from PinJim:

Awesome job! I can't wait to see it when you are finished.
Are you going to re-finish the cabinet too?
How's your backglass? Mine had significant flaking in the reds, so I got a repro from bgresto. It's very nice, but not as good as a screened glass. I haven't searched for a year or two to see if anyone made a re-screened glass. Seems like someone would, this title always seems to suffer from flaking in the reds.
Anyhow, following this thread. Nice work!

Thank you , fortunately my glass is in very good condition. As for the cabinet , I will make templates and restored it completely.

#144 4 years ago

I finished the drop targets . They are not perfect , but they are ok. I will use these until I manage to get new white drop targets.

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#145 4 years ago

That's fantastic so far. Thanks for documenting your steps!

#146 4 years ago
Quoted from pb456:

That's fantastic so far. Thanks for documenting your steps!

Appreciate the good vibes

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#147 4 years ago

Amazing work.

#148 4 years ago

Almost finished . Need to restore the apron with decals, install the flippers , and put some new shiny acorn nuts from "pinball mania " .
Did not have my camera with me , I had to take the pictures with my phone.

After that I am in search of another em to restore. Maybe a Gottlieb big Indian?

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#149 4 years ago

Wow, looking very fresh!

#150 4 years ago

You did a real nice job. It looks fantastic !

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