Going to try and lay this out best I can.

Player two lamps on backglass were not working, so via the schematics I traced the problem to the BX relay. did some adjusting in there (of course like an idiot I figure lets adjust all the switches) now the light works but I have a never ending ball one. Ball drains and kicks out but does not register bonus or move to ball two.

I notice that when I trigger the AX relay with my finger it looks like the BX tries to pull in but doesn't. the little plastic clip underneath moves but the switches dont. what did I do with my fat fingers? Worked fine until BX relay was messed with.

Thanks in advance!

what I am assuming as well. Maybe you can at least answer this, should the BX click and hold open when activated? when I trigger the AX with my finger it gives a little "click" and holds open. Should the BX do the same? Mine does not really want to do that.

Grrrrr, finicky EM machines.

So I started a game and watched the U relay (first ball relay) it did not pull in so I gave it a push with my finger. Now the game will register the end of each ball except when it gets to the fifth ball then the score motor just endlessly turns after the final ball drains.

I made NO adjustments to the U relay other than to give it a little nudge and get it going. Trying to avoid adjusting random switches

Thank you for the thorough explanation. I think this may be my problem. The AX relay (when I manually move it with my finger) gives this little click and stays engaged, then if you press the little clip beneath it, it clicks back and then disengages. It seems as if my BX should do that as well but is kinda jammed. I see it try and engage during operations, but it just kinda moves really quick and does not stay engaged.

So should the BX when engaged hold open with that little clip beneath?

ok going to look at that first as that is obviously a problem. wont be able to report back for a while.

May have bumped that, seems that U is working fine now, but if continues I will reexamine the AX relay. The problem should be isolated to the AX or BX relay as those are the only two areas I have done any fudging with.

Took a look at one of Clays videos where he showed how to adjust these relays. Saw a part where you dont get that snap unless the long blades are creating enough tension to pull the switch plate back. Going to investigate this further later today possibly tomorrow. Thanks for all the help so far, I will report back.

Seems to be fixed, of course the damn second player lamps I was trying to fix in the first place are out again.

It was the switches being very misadjusted that did it. I followed Clays advice in the video where you need to adjust the long blades away from the relay to make sure they pull the switch plate back properly giving it that back and forth click open and shut. The info pertinent to this is at about 2:54 in the video below.

Thanks to everyone for the help!

It's all five bulbs that light up the player two score reels. Schematics traced it back to a switch on BX which fixed it the first time I adjusted, it was all the other adjustments I made that fouled it all up. I will go back and fix the lights soon. After putting the glass back on and noticing them out again I said to hell with it for now and revisit it in a few days.