So I went down to the basement to play some Surf Champ and everything seem to start ok. I noticed then that the 5 red rollovers are all out thinking that it was burned out bulbs I wiggled them and replaced a couple with known good bulbs. Then turned it back on and they were still out. I then noticed that all 5 lights toward the kick out hole are all lit up. So then I knew it was something else. I found a bolt in the cabinet bolt1 (resized).jpg. I then found out it attaches to this big motor assembly pic5 (resized).jpg I noticed there is a bolt missing on the left side. pic2 (resized).jpg I can put the bolt back but now it seems like its too small for the hole pic3 (resized).jpgpic4 (resized).jpg Is the hole now made bigger due to the wear of playing? What parts would I need to fix this? Can I just go to Lowes and get another bolt maybe bigger. The bolt is not a normal bolt as you can see. Thanks for any help.

Update. There happens to be a nut that was on the other side still so after much contorting I was able to get the nut back on and now the 5 Red stars light up. Now I get a buzzing sound when the stars are rolled over and the lights dont go out or the bonus lights dont light up near the kick hole. All 5 roll overs give a loud buzzing when I push them down. Also if you play till your 5th ball there is a loud buzzing the whole time until you drain the ball.

Any help is appreciated.

Ok so when I turn on the machine the piston pulls the bar down to I guess reset the switches. It looks like the piston should then push the bar up to bring the bar down so that the switches can be triggered? I can manually move the bar down which is a little difficult and then when I push down one of the roll overs the light goes out and the bonus path lights up one light BUT it still buzzes when I do this. So it sounds like I didn't install the bar correctly? Or is something sticking or stuck? I dont know what or how the piece should look. I can take more pictures if it helps?

Ok the bar does not move easily you have to apply a bit of pressure to move it up or down. Ill take a look to see if anything is getting in the way. Maybe the bar bent some when the bolt came loose? Ill check the springs too while I'm at it.

The only tension on the bar is from the piston. Its like its not resetting as if I push bar up the rollovers will then go out and light up the bonus but it gives a loud buzzing noise if i push the stars down. I dont know what else to try looking at the springs look good on both sides.

Ok Ill check it out some more. Also the buzzing of the rollovers does not add to the score either so there might be an issue with scoring? If I manually reset the bar the rollover lights go off and the bonus lights for kick out hole light up but no score is added. Not sure if it ever did score over roll overs but I will take a look at that bar again. This really sucks I mean everything looks fine.

Ok checked it out some more. Thanks for being patient with me as this is my first EM. If I pull a little to the left on the bracket that holds the piston the bar slides up and down real easily so you are right the bracket got bent. Is it safe to try and bend it back or do I just need a new bracket?

So I believe this fixes the roll overs lighting and not lighting when triggered. I cant remember if the buzz is normal when they get rolled over when they are out or if they should score points as well. They currently dont score points and buzz if ball rolls over them.

Another issue has manifested which could have also resulted in this bent bar. When I just trigger a score for players 1-4 for lets say 500 points all of them say 500 points but player 4 says something like 1420 when it should say 500. What could be causing this?

Thanks again for all your help.

Ok I loosened the bolt/nuts on both sides and now it moves really easily. The bolts do wobble but it slides up and down easily now. The next issue is it seems to be the scoring.

When I turn on the game and press the button for player 1 everything resets to 0's and popups and rollovers now light up and pop up. When I hit the button again for player two it adds 10 to player 1 and then player two lights up and shows 0's When I press the button again player one shows 20 and player 2 and 3 are 0's Which relay should I look at for this one?

Thanks I checked those three switches and they look ok. I even ran some paper between the gaps to clean them a bit. Here are some pics.

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The last pic has shows a black box that also hums pretty loud.

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Ok latest update I found a stuck spinner switch which stopped the humming noise so thanks Howardr for this. I also found player 4 switches were a little to far so adjusted them and everything works now except the tens place for player two does not trigger the 100's spot when it goes past 9. All other players work its just player two. Any ideas on where to look for this one? Its a strange one as I figured it should act the same for other players but maybe not.

Ok which is the rollover switch is this the switches on the back of the reels or is this switch N (for surfchamp)? So many switches

Yes I mean when score is 90 it should go to 100 but it goes back to 00 then starts over and never increments 100. This only happens to the Player 2 Scores.

If it helps here are some pics of the relay tens for the Player 1 reel and then some to compare to Player 2 reel

player 1 tens reel - This one works fine

Value 0
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Value 1
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Value 9
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Player 2 tens reel - This one is having an issue incrementing to 100 when it reaches 9
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Value 9
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They seem too look ok?

I don’t have any alligator clips but I had some spare wire. Is this how you ment it? This is on the player 2 10's reel (where its not counting over to 100's after it hits 9) C06799FD-9B37-40D2-94E3-1C0AEBAE3CB5 (resized).jpeg

I hit the relay to trigger 10s and it didn’t move the 100s

Ok I will see if I can get some clips or just seeing if I can get a good connection. I have the schematics just not sure on rules of posting them.

Ok I think this is the step up unit. I’m sorry I really can’t read them well and not sure why it would look like.

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Sorry for all the questions. Here is the keys on the side. I dont see a SU or stepup unit but it maybe called something else.

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You are right there are more switches inside the reel

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Looks like they are intact. How do you know how to align them? Just compare the two reels?

Thanks I will see if I can check it out again tonight or tomorrow and get back to you. Thank you and everyone else who has chimed for your help I really appreciate it.

Thank you! I checked the switch closest to the coil and it looked like it was touching but it must not have been. I stuck a wire between the switches and then it triggered the hundreds to increment after 9 rolled on the tens. I bent the metal switch just a little to make sure it was touching when the plunger was pulled. It not scores correctly. Thank you so much! Thank you everyone!

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