Two things-

Is this only for internet sales? If so how many people purchase their pinball machines over the internet?

Other thing is many states including Ca. require you to pay a use tax on items purchased from out of state anyway. Items over $1000 you pay the regular rate. So are people bitching that they can no longer get away with not paying required taxes until later?

I see. So people are bitching that they can no longer get away with not paying the taxes they owe. lol

An NIB game is quite a big purchase to use Paypal. Credit card, or check takes that out of the equation.

Carry on people... until the next new law to bitch about.

Mine's under $1000 a year, so about $3 a day or less than what they are charging for one of those new, fresh, quarter pounders at MickyDs.

So unless something changes or they do away with prop 13, I'll be staying put, and let all the newcomers and new homebuyers pay the majority.

And yes, I do own it, free and clear.

15 years now. My how time flies when you're having fun. Doesn't bother me one bit that the newcomers that live in the same style house in the same neighborhood are paying near $10,000 a year. In fact any time that crosses my mind, I get a warm, fuzzy feeling inside.

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It could be worse. At least I have a 7-11 and a liquor store within walking distance.

Plus this isn't entirely true. There is a rule within prop 13 that if someone over 55 wants to downsize they can take their property tax with them as long as the new place, say a condo at the beach, costs less than they sell the house for.

Or I could rent it out for $4000 a month, keep paying the low property tax on it and go wherever I want.

But at least for now, I do like it here.

Living like a King right now! In fact look what I'm working on today. What I've always liked about this house is the long driveway with the detached two car garage in the back. No stragglers walking down the sidewalk mess with me or my stuff.

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I can ride my bike to Disneyland in about 20 minutes and strap it to the bike rack near the entrance and not pay their exorbitant parking fees.

A huge exodus from Ca., especially those that came here from somewhere else to make it their own and turned it into the rat race it has become, isn't exactly a bad thing.

There is never going to be enough water anyway so all new construction needs to stop, pronto.

Yeah, we're talking overpriced real estate here.

No. It's because I'm scaring them all out of here. Newcomers and oldcomers alike.

Make that three! We got the wealthy, the homeless, and the I don't give a shits.

Yeah, what I save on property tax, I more than make up for on alcohol, tobacco and weed tax.

That's what we pay for the convenience of being able to walk into a store and buy weed, instead of hustling it in the back alley of some ghetto.

My neighborhood's starting to look like Hong Kong.

No comprende, it's a riddle.

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They aint assimilating me!

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To all the MIAS that grew up in Garden Grove and are finally on their way back, welcome home!

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Only problem is in high school, the foreign language I studied was German.

And "Variety & Bargain"

Today, Google is not my friend-- I searched So Cal signs. Plenty of others though...

Now, we're talkin' So Cal!

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Why I stay in So Cal-

Where else can I get paid $15 an hour to sit around this smog shop three days a week trying to keep you guys entertained?

Here's your sign!

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And automobeeeels!

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Well said. Because of this Compton is well on it's way to becoming the next Beverly Hills!

https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2017/12/19/compton-hot-new-housing-market/

Now that's the funniest shit I've seen all day!

In Orange County they were known as "river dwellers" or "Angels fans", but it got too crowded so they are getting shipped down to Irvine to let them deal with it.

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How bout lovely Hacienda Heights, Garden Grove, or Westminster?

I'd say putting up road signs that say things like "Little Baghdad Next Exit", in towns that already have perfectly good names, is a waste of taxpayers money.

I don't think it ever was about pinball. lol.

I think they were under the impression this would be a new tax that didn't exist before.

Personally taxes I pay don't bother me as I don't make much to begin with, so they don't take much and they are better than the other inevitable thing in life.... death .

All I know is when they spend $20,000 on a toilet seat and it isn't even officially licensed Supreme gear,

now that's wasteful spending!

I'm not worried about Social Security running out.

I'll be collecting it when many here will still be working high paying jobs to support their fancy car and NIB pinball habits well into their 60s and maybe 70s. And of course they will be on paying into it.

What me worry?

BusBoys version.

I prefer not to get a refund and have my cash when I earn it.

Who is Jeff Spicoli?

I try to set it up so I owe them or they owe me less than $100 each year. That way they aren't earning interest on my money and I have it to spend, and I don't owe them a big chunk of change all at once.

How about a 55 year old that gets drunk as a skunk every night and smokes almost two packs a day?

Heck yeah he did! He almost outlived John Denver.

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I was so torched last night until who knows when in the wee hours of the morning, I'm surprised I made it into work by 9:18 today.

But feeling like a champ right now and ready to do it all over again when I get home.

Back on topic!

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It's the suede denim secret police! And they've come for your uncool niece!

Like that deaf, dumb and blind kid that sure plays a mean pinball?

That's probably the exact reason we still use pennies. lol. I don't mind our near 9% rate as long as they use some of it to fill holes with more cement.

One last thing though.

This is the first time any of my posts have been highlighted as being important. I feel like a proud papa!

Mine's been on perma bounce for the last two years.

Leverage on making sure you keep on kissing whoever you work for's ass.

Heaven forbid losing whatever job is paying for your sky high mortgage payments.

Since I paid off my house 15 years ago, I've had a few periods of unemployment, mostly because the boss was a real dickhead, and never felt the need to beg to keep said job. Life's been stress free and easy since I decided long ago to owe nobody a thing.

It's true though! And I've even watched my aging process slow to a crawl. I don't want to owe anybody anything or be under anybody elses control but my own.

Some of it came from years of hard work, and some of it was good timing, but now I am free to wander around my own back yard in whatever condition I might be till who knows when in the middle of the night without even thinking about if I have to work the next day or not. But I always get there anyway on the few days I do.

I'll admit it does get a little boring sometimes. Like yesterday I woke up on one of my days off and the only thing that really needed doing was fixing a door hinge to my laundry room. So I farted around, wasted most of the day, and never got to that door hinge.

But sure beats sitting on the freeway for three hours just so I can spend another ten working for some asshole I don't like in the first place.

I was craving that burrito, but settled on leftover brisket instead. Today though, I'm treating myself to Pedros.

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What I do know, Mr. D-Gottlieb, was my statements were in regards to those that mentioned having a mortgage and being in debt was a good thing.

But sure, I have no idea what the price of tea in China is at any given moment, or how they even choose what the next pinball themes will be. Among many other things I don't really care to know about.

Yeah my response wasn't meant to be directed at you. It's just that word "leverage" keeps coming up.

I do know if somebody misses enough house payments, they will be "leveraged" homeless.

They've got one in Fullerton of all places now, so you don't even need to go surfing to eat there anymore.

Believe it or not that is one of the reason's I'm staying put.

I knew you were, that's why I mentioned it. Harbor blvd just north of downtown.

There's also one in Boston of all places.

None of that needed for this finely tuned, cast iron stomach.

Only real extra expense is the Jack Daniels habit, but price is down to $25 for the big bottle at Costco.

Good for you! Nice to be counting on others to pay for your properties and bills and whatever else it takes to make you rich.

But I'd still much rather be me. I may not be wealthy or really care to be, or own more property than I need or can take care of by myself, but I'm living my dream. I don't get offended that easy and I certainly try not to walk around or talk around like I've got some stick up my ass.

But most important is I have plenty of free time to enjoy each beautiful day to the fullest as I see fit without the need to manage a bunch of other crap or have to deal with people that I don't really want to.

No, you don't understand. I have found a way to be financially independent without the big investments or tax liabilities that come with them, or even having to think about the next economic crash, which experience tells me can happen at any time. I keep things as simple as possible, so I don't worry about anything. But I don't really need to over explain why. It's just the way I want it. I may not thrive, but I know I'll survive.

I owned a rental property two blocks from the ocean years ago that I got for a song in the late 80s , but I got tired of dealing with the tenants and everything else involved and wanted to go on a surfing safari, so sold it and did that with the profit over 20 years ago. Would it be nice to still own a three bedroom condo by the San Clemente pier and use it on weekends, rent it or take the windfall now? Sure. But in the end I don't need it or want it. I'm happy right here on cloud nothing.

Life's too short to deal with assholes if you really don't have to to survive. And the world's full of them. More and more every day. Cutting ties with any and all of them is worth way more than any financial gain IMO.

Sure, and on the other hand if you pretend to be a financial adviser on a pinball forum where many don't care about your success story or how you got there, or think your advice is ridiculous and have their own way of living and doing things that suits them better, then be prepared for said comments.

The law has always been there in many places, the new version of the law means it will now be easier for them to collect said taxes.

I believe Iowa has a state tax of just about 7%, so that is what you will owe on your entire purchase price if they already had a use tax law in place before you made your purchase. You might want to check with your local tax office for more details.

Yep, Boston. Apparently it is so popular there, they had to close up shop and are moving to a larger location. And I thought the drive thru at one of the San Clemente locations had long lines....

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I apologize to everybody here!

For not being overly ambitious, not trying to take the easy way to riches, not going along with the crowd, and mostly for turning a serious thread into a Pedros ad.

Rules are a personal check is probably gonna be harder for them to track than a paypal purchase.

Hail PBResource, hail Steve Young.