Did you try contacting TNT Amusements? He might have it on a spare parts playfield.

You might take the other one to a vo-tech school metal shop and see if they could make you an opposite one as a class project for a student. You get the part made and the student gets a grade.

Hmm, both good ideas think i will contact Todd first and save the vo-teck idea as a last resort thanks for the idea's

Well Todd shut that down quick before I could even explain wat part and were it went immediately said we don't cary parts looks like I will have 2 try vo-teck or rig it up somehow sucks parts r rare for this machine afraid in the future won't be able 2 fix it at all due 2 no replacement parts and it's shame it's such a great game

Try contacting Stern. Maybe they have a couple lying around.

I'm sure a metal fab shop could make it also, it's a very simple piece. Also put up a request on Pinside for someone to make it. Pinsider indypinhead owns a machine shop, ask him.

Good idea I think the stern part is one inch longer though but worth a try also will give Indy a shout and c wat he can do thanks guys for help

Quick q. What is the most common reason the game would trigger too many multiball sessions?
Thanks guys.

Ok, per our previous posts, it's time to update my progress on this issue.

I didn't use a camera, but instead I just took off the glass and whizzed a bunch of balls up the right orbit. Many of the previous assumptions proved to be true.

1) Because the top ball guide is straight across the back of the pin, anything slower than 'optimal' will allow gravity to take it's course and it separates from the top ball guide ever so slightly and nicks the rubber post between the saucer and the left orbit. This is the same post that locks in the 1-way gate on the left orbit. This contact with the rubber post causes the ball the rattle around the area and then just dribble down to the top lane rollovers. More on this in a second.

2) If I took the ball and whizzed it like a very strong shot, it would fly right over the saucer, hit the bracket behind and come back out.

To try to remedy this, I ended up pulling the rubber post. To do this, I brought the PF up so I could access the back left corner, and removed the plastic back there. I also unscrewed the connection to the left orbit 1-way gate on post in question. I could then remove the rubber post and when you're about to do it, you'll notice that the rubber post (at least the one on my game) actually eclipses a small portion of the darn saucer entry! What crap! Either use a thinner rubber...
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...or add a curve to the top ball guide so the ball follows that at all times. Bad design flaw.

Once I put everything back, I reran my tests. The saucer was catching practically everything I didn't fling at warp speeds. I put the glass back on and played a few games. It was catching the ball beautifully! Even the BatWing shot connected twice (which was hard in the past as it's doable but not perfectly aligned with the orbit, meaning it can bounce around a bit and lose momentum which means it was doomed for that rubber post).

I did notice that pured shots were still bouncing out and that again is due to the bracket behind it. To come up with a solution, I'm going go buy a regular kitchen sponge, and cut postage-stamp size squares from it at different thicknesses. This material should be able to absorb momentum without being too bouncy, yet also be able to return to it's original shape and take abuse alone the way. I want the thinnest solution that works, so I'll begin with the thinnest and work my way up until I have one that's working constantly.

With the post removal, I'm now catching a majority of right orbit shots. I'm hoping the sponge finally gets me to that 99-100% rate a bunch of us are looking for. Will keep you all updated.

Is that the horizontal wire that's supposed to drop and block the ball from coming back to you from the left orbit?

If so, when is that wire suppose to drop and block the ball?

Thanks for your post. I totally see what you mean. The rubber on my post there only partially covers the white color of the playfield there. It's not terribly thick, but I can see what you mean.

Did you re-install a thinner post rubber at all? Just metal on metal?

Well, I think I found my problem? I manually lowered that wire ball-guide thingy and started a game. It never was actuated back down!

That can't be normal.

Yes. That wire just hangs from gravity and only swings left-to-right so a ball on the left orbit can enter, but a ball on the right orbit gets blocked.

For the time being, I'm leaving it as an exposed metal post. I may see if there's a thinner rubber out there, but for now it doesn't look like its getting hit a lot.

I should have written my post differently. My one-way-gate is always up! It never falls back down.

It's supposed to fall back down "by gravity", correct?

EDIT: FIXED. It was bent in a weird way, so it wasn't falling back down. Now it free-flows. That's going to change the gameplay for sure. Duh!

EDIT 2: Spoke too soon. It does move from left to right. When it moves right, it then gets stuck in the up position forever? I need to study this.

EDIT 3: One-way-gate is part number 500-6040-00 and is hard to find?

EDIT 4: Found the culprit! It's the screw from the post on the right of the one-way-gate. The gate wire will eventually ride on top of that screw, then adding spring resistance (if you will) and the wire will get stuck up. I've screwed down the post screw, lowering it again. We'll see if that works.

White or black rubbers on this game??

Black.

Mine's purple. Looks very nice.

Hey everyone! If anyone in the NJ area is looking to sell their BF please reach out to me! Looking to grab a beautiful mint example of my grail pin!!!

Way cool mod but there's no way I'd mess with my board, I have no experience with board mods like that.

Pmed

That's really cool. But you do know that's cheating.

Does anybody have "lighted LED flipper buttons" for this game? I have blue ones on my STTNG. I was thinking of adding green ones on the batman forever. Thoughts? Technical challenges? Thanks guys.

EDIT: If so, what part number / kit did you get?

Just make your own, cost under $10 and that's including the clear buttons.

Clear buttons I understand. What about the LEDs? And how do you mount them inside so they light up the buttons? Staple them?

My STTNG has the kit that has the LED boards that are mounted on the inside. They have 3 LEDs I beleive, and the LEDs are soldered on the board.

Would you suggest getting a bigger LED then, and using only one per button?

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/vids-guide-to-lighted-flipper-buttons-for-418

Yup

Thanks! Awesome.

Nice work.

Awesome Work!

Looking for pictures/video of LED kits for BF. Would like to see what the kit from cointaker etc looks like before purchasing. My machine has a number of LED's but in all white and would like to add some varied colors. was hoping the kit provided this so I was not all on my own and paying multiple shipping fee's. Thanks!!

Get the LED kit from pinballbulbs. It's worth the money. Mine looks just like the photos on the site after I did the kit. Just plain awesome. LED strips and spotlights that are easy to install are included.

http://pinballbulbs.com/products/batman-forever-pinball-ultimate-led-lighting-kit

You can get 10% off too if you use coupon code: pinside.

Currently I'm working on the Tech Chart for Batman Forever.
But..... (there has to be a but).
I do not have the full manual.
I only have the preliminary manual (from the ipdb) to work with.
This manual does not have all the information I need to make this Tech Chart complete.
Do any of you guys have a full manual and is willing to help me?
Some scans or photo's might do the trick....
Please contact me via email inkochnito @ kpnplanet dot nl

Added over 7 years ago: I've uploaded the full manual file to the ipdb.
It's not jet available, but some day it will be.
Send me a PM if you need a copy.

New Tech Chart will be available from my website at the end of the month.

My Batman Forever has been put in storage for Batman 66. I'm hoping to be in my new place by the end of the year. The game room there, will be more than twice the size of what I have now (I use the 2nd bedroom as a game room).

Sorry to hear your game is going off line but at least your getting another Batman. Which one? SLE? That's a long time to wait but at over twice the size your gonna love that.......MORE PINS.

LE Episode #62

I only have room for 7 right now. I didn't want 2 of them to be Batman.

The new place, I'll have room for 16 - 20 pins...I'm not really looking to get that many. I'd like to top out around 12. I'm at 9 now...my KISS LE is at my builders house...I'll probably end up letting him keep it and have him just credit it against the building costs.

Star Wars LE is a must buy for me. If Stern releases a Tron VE, I'd buy that too. I'd like to get a LUCI AC/DC too. I won't buy these 2 on the secondary market due to the prices on them. Walking Dead Premium is one I might get too.

I don't want to fill up the new room too fast, what if they release a He-Man machine based on the 1983 cartoon...I don't know how I would resist that one. Put Battle Cat on one side of the machine and put Panthor on the other side. Put Prince Adam raising the sword on one side of the backbox and Skeletor on the other side. The picture I attached would be the backglass. The actor who voiced He-Man is still alive...should use him for custom speech.

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I´m thinking about using the original soundtrack as reorchestration.
Has anyone of you started a pinsound project for this machine I can use as a basis ?

Lucky1

I too can use a backup of the original sounds and PS project. My PS is literally on the counter as I check for this to move forward.

Pinball life has NOS gun handles in stock.

Really? WOW....I wonder where they came from.

Now if they just could get the ramps.

Yeah.

Gun handle looks like it's brand new.

Glad I picked it up.

Hey guys. I'm looking to join the club! If anyone in the PA NJ DE MD area is thinking of selling their BF please message me. Thanks!

Good luck with the search.

Alright I am looking for a shooter gun for my BF. If anyone has an old extra one they want to sell let me know. PM me details..

Pinball life carries them.