(Topic ID: 287811)

Super Spin goes to Game Over during game play

By Peruman

3 years ago



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#1 3 years ago

I have a weird issue with a Super Spin that I just moved and setup at a friend's house.

Game was playing fine after setting it up. As we put a couple games on it, the game would go to Game Over during game play. Not when the ball was in the outhole, but while the ball was out on the playfield. There was no rhyme or reason either. Sometimes you could play a full 5-ball game and others it would happen on the first ball, second ball, any ball. Playing single player or two player game made no difference, the game would Game Over at random.

I checked the Game Over relay - no issues there, all the switches metered out correct.

Then the issue got worst, after pushing the reset button, the game would reset the score reels and get to the point where it's going to kick out a ball but would not --> the Game Over light would stay on and the ball would not kickout.

I'm stumped by this issue. Could it be one of the tilt switches in the backbox or playfield having opened during transport?

Thanks in advance for the help,

Alberto

#2 3 years ago

Could it be that one of the Bounce Switches is opening during game play? I just saw this note in the Startup Sequence page.

Looking at the schematic, the Bounce Switches control the Hold relay, how would those also control the Game Over relay?

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#3 3 years ago

try looking at the hold relay whilst operating various switches to simulate a ball being played?

I'm guessing the hold relay is dropping out.

#4 3 years ago

Yes it could be one of those bounce switches listed, they could need adjustment or cleaning. Although the tilt roll switch would cause it to tilt just like the tilt bob would, not go to 'game over'. There is another bounce or 'slam' switch on the inside of the coin door, if one was going to be the culprit it would be the best bet. If any of these switches open up even during game reset they will cause game over. You can spot them easy as they have little lead weights attached to one blade. Best to adjust the switches tight since it's not in an arcade where folks are kicking or slamming the game around.

#5 3 years ago

Check out your AX. It looks like one of the make/breaks on it leads into Q (Game Over).

You'll have to get right down close, pull the cotter pin that holds the relay, and get a good look because everything is so tight on those. Be sure the contacts are nice and clean and that you're getting a nice 'wipe.'

#6 3 years ago

It ended up being the Hold relay not staying closed after pushing the Start button. When pushing start, I could see the Hold armature close and immediately open again.

The anti cheat switch on the backbox looked closed but was reading 6 ohms on the voltmeter. After cleaning and adjusting it was reading 0.4 ohms. After that, the Hold relay would pull and stay.

I cleaned all of the anti-cheat switches after that and adjusted them so they stay closed.

We put about a dozen games on it with no issues after that. Hopefully that was it.

#7 3 years ago

Yay! Jet/Super Spin is a great game, sold my Jet Spin but wish I still had it. Dumb!

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