(Topic ID: 278726)

Super soccer wont cycle balls


By Richeson92

7 months ago

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#1 7 months ago

Hi guys and gals new to the community and the hobbies got my first pin last week got a player condition super soccer for 350 got it home game cycled balls but wouldn't reset score got that figured out turned out to be the coil in the head to the steper unit now that works grate only issue now is it starts up and runs everything stops resets the relay bank and then no ball kicks out check ball out coil its good any idea or step to try next would be grate bought the book and scmatics still waiting for them to show up thanks for the help

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#2 7 months ago

If the Ball Return switch doesn't activate the Outhole relay (O), Inspect and diagnose this circuit with Alligator clip jumper wires
http://www.planetimming.com/Pinball/troubleshooting/EM%20Troubleshooting.pdf
http://www.pinrepair.com/em/index3.htm#features
Example of a pinsider actually doing this https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/red-baron-tech-question#post-5858156

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#3 7 months ago

Any way to simplify that at all not the best with scmatics yet working in it sorry

#4 7 months ago
Quoted from HowardR:

If the Ball Return switch doesn't activate the Outhole relay (O), Inspect and diagnose this circuit with Alligator clip jumper wires

Quoted from Richeson92:

Any way to simplify that at all not the best with scmatics yet working in it sorry

Does the Ball Return switch activate the Outhole relay (O)?

#5 7 months ago
Quoted from Richeson92:

Any way to simplify that at all not the best with scmatics yet working in it sorry

Put the playfield up after starting a game. Manually hit the Ball Return sw. where the ball drains while keeping an eye on the O relay. Does it energize (pull in) or no?

#6 7 months ago

Did that the o relay isn't fireing when the switch is pressed when I press the o relay it cycles the stepper but don't fire the ball unless I hole it in then it will fire but not realizing ball 2 is in play I belive I have a contact some where that needs cleaned or adjusted

#7 7 months ago

From the manual:

Here is a great site to check and bookmark: http://www.pinrepair.com/em/index1

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#8 7 months ago

Checked all relays and cleaned contacts only issue is locating E

#9 7 months ago
Quoted from Richeson92:

Checked all relays and cleaned contacts only issue is locating E

E is the Red Hole relay and may be under the PF.

A visual on contacts is not always sufficient. Check this: http://www.pinrepair.com/em/index2.htm#clean

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#10 7 months ago

So I got my scmatics and went through highlighted stuff and still won't return ball but ball return switch works for bounes so confused

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#11 7 months ago

Did you check that 0 pos. Bonus unit sw. (make/break)?

#12 7 months ago

Ok got it to work now but I switched it to 3 ball play and now when the last ball drains the score motor under the play feild dont stop and lights player 1 and 4

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#13 7 months ago

I seem to have it narrowed down to the game over relay not fireing and the score motor just spinning round and round on last ball drained but if I pull the ball out the score motor stops spinning man I love the hunt on these ems thank you everyone for the help slowly figuring them out wish my grandfather could see still cuz he would have a hay day helping me

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