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Super Soccer Capacitor/Resistor piece missing and other problems

By RobAquinas

6 months ago

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#1 6 months ago

I'm finalizing the restoration of a Super Soccer, and the spinners aren't registering properly when they get a good rip. After cleaning the spinner disc and associated relays, I noticed that there was no capacitor, resistor, plugged into the rectifier. I wasn't even sure how they were incorporated, but I found this thread that shows the part.


I haven't had any luck finding the part for sale, so the question is, how do I build or wire this myself? rolf_martin_062 you seemed to have studied this before. Your insight would be appreciated.

The other gremlins that I need to work out are:

1) the bonus does not score anything after draining the first ball even though it correctly decrements the bonus module. On ball two, it scores one thousand per decrement instead of two thousand, and on ball three it scores two thousand instead of three thousand per decrement. Oddly, when the red saucer is activated, the bonus scores correctly on all three balls.

2) the bonus unit counts one extra bonus decrement at the end of every bonus count (both outhole and red saucer). I thought this may just be a vibration issue from the force of pushing the bonus count balls past the wire frame, then having the wire frame jump up and land back on the switch. However, if it is, I cannot get the adjustment of the switch right. Maybe it is something else.

Any suggestions and/or assistance are appreciated.

#3 6 months ago

sudsy7 thank you so much for the reply. I noticed a diode on your diagram, but I don't see one in the schematics relating to the GX relay. What are the specs on the diode. I have already started sourcing the other parts. You mentioned the AS relay, but I don't see that in the I/J portions of the schematic. Also, I should have clarified, the score is registering fine with the spinners. The bonus progression is not, and I just noticed that the five light bonus meter does not reset to position one at the start of each ball. It appears to move a few positions forward. However, when a new game starts, it does reset to the first position. This leads me to believe it may be the O relay. I have cleaned and adjusted it though.

Relating to the Q relay on the bonus score, I had the same thought. I have cleaned and adjusted it. I even alligator clipped that switch so it was continuously closed, but the scoring still missed the first thousand.

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#5 6 months ago

Update: found an adjustment in the Q relay that gives the first thousand in the bonus sequence.

I'm going to work on the I relay. When I increment it manually at a slow or medium pace, everything works normally. When the spinner goes fast, the score reel will put up the correct number of spins, e.g. 20, but the I relay will not count 20 progressions and 4 bonuses. It will only count about half of them. It catches the first few, pauses, then catches the last few.

Thank you for your help.

#7 6 months ago

I watched some other videos online, and I believe it is operating normally now. I will report back after jumpering 1C - hold my beer!

#8 6 months ago

Can I use a 1n4007 1A 1000V diode as a replacement to rebuild the missing component?

#11 6 months ago

Yeah, it was kind of underwhelming. I need to adjust the bonus mechanism to prevent phantom counts, but otherwise, the machine is fully functioning!

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