(Topic ID: 247738)

Super-Flite - Constantly Counting Thousands Upon Game Start

By Bigun

4 months ago

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#1 4 months ago

See video:

Let me start off by saying I have no clue how to work on EM pinball machines, but I'm going to give it a shot.

Basically when it starts, it begins cycling the thousands counter on player 1, by 5 digits. I have the schematics, unsure where to start.

#2 4 months ago

It looks like its not finding the zero(home) position on that score reel. Manually put it on zero and check the switches, pretty easy to compare what leafs are open or closed by looking at another score reel.

#3 4 months ago

If the Score Reset relay is pulsing when this happens, check to see if this switch on the 1st Player 1000 Point Score unit is stuck closed, even when the 1st Player 1000 Point Score unit is on zero.

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#4 3 months ago

At the zero position, all 3 switches on the score reel should be open. Look for one that isn't open..

#5 3 months ago

Stuck playfield switch? I see the gate is 5000 and there are some 1000 rollovers.

#6 3 months ago

And here is a link to Clay's famous repair guide, a newbie must-read: http://www.pinrepair.com/em/index1

1 week later
#7 3 months ago

So, the reel now finds home, but still "churning".

Added 112 days ago:

Wanted to add what I did to get it this far.

The reed on the thousands score wheel wasn't opening when it should. A slight bend and now it's working.

#8 3 months ago

Are the Coin relay, Game Over relay, and/or Reset relay pulling in when this happens?

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#9 80 days ago

So, the reset relay is getting stuck I think? While its cycling, I can yank on the white plastic piece toward the front, and it stops cycling and starts responding to switches on the playfield.

Is that a solenoid replacement?

#10 80 days ago

If the Reset relay doesn't let go, check these switches to find out which one(s) are keeping it energized. If it's not obvious which one(s) are responsible, you can temporarily disable them with slips of paper between the contacts. The score Drum unit Zero Position Break switches on the 16 score units are a likely suspect so start with them.

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#11 67 days ago

Found the issue, the second player 10,000 reel reed switch had a portion that was supposed to be normally opened, but flexed and was normally closed. After a little bending it started a game properly.

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