London
Quoted from nwpinball:If the snack bar mod list isn't full, I'd like to be added, just got notification my Swinks mod is coming soon. Thanks!
Sure, thing. Added! Many thanks 
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Received mine today. Real nice mod. Easy to install with the excellent instructions. Thanks for this!
Suffield, CT
Quoted from qbass187:If you could add me to the list too I’d appreciate it!!
Will there be a separate thread for the chase light board mod??
Great, gotcha down mate for the Chase Echo, many thanks (once again)!
Yep I'm going to create a new thread in a couple of weeks. Will make sure to link to it from this one. Just want to get all existing Snackbar orders out of the way first, otherwise my workshop becomes mental ! :-/
1 week later
Hi everyone! Here's my quick review. If anyone has any questions about how I did my install or if something isn't clear please feel free to message me. For reference, I am installing the Move Your Snackbar mod in Swink's Snackbar Version 5..
PACKAGING
Everything was well packed and protected. The circuit board was in an anti-static bag. The LED strips were in clear parts bags, the cardboard shipping box was lined in protective foam. Nothing was damaged. Colour instructions were provided.
INSTALLATION
I completed the installation about a week ago. Like 
bigian mentioned earlier, it's a bit fiddly getting the LED strip lined up behind the snack bar sign, but it's worth the time and patience you put into it. Don't rush this install. Make sure you take your time. I had a few questions regarding the placement of the LED strips, but Davey responded immediately and cleared things up for me.
I chose to mount my PCB vertically so that I would have easier access to the DIP switches. I screwed it directly into the playfield, which stumblor should take as a HUGE compliment. I like things factory original, and normally the thought of screwing anything into a playfield gives me shivers, but this little circuit board looked so nice I didn't mind at all.
I only used 3 of the 4 provided mounting screws, but all 4 standoffs. The top left corner is the one I chose not to screw down. It was too close to the cable management bracket. On my pin, the bracket is flipped the other way at least when compared to the photo shown in the manual. That made it a little tighter fit for me so I did without the fourth screw. It's solid enough. I wouldn't recommend using less than 3 screws.
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Here is what the underside of my Swink's Snackbar looks like with the LED strip mounted.
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For the snack bar sign (below), the wiring tucks right behind the 11 LED strip and the whole thing fits snuggly into place. Once screwed back down to the roof of Swink's mod it look like this.
When I went to install everything back into my pin I noticed the wires were swapped on my LED Matrix component. I spoke to Davey about this briefly and he told me this wasn't an issue.
Feeding the new wiring through the vacant playfield hole was easy enough, again just take your time. I connected all the wiring to the newly mounted circuit board under the playfield. The connectors are small, just be careful and use a delicate touch.
POWER ON
I just have to say right away, that I am really impressed with this mod. The Move Your Snackbar looks great. Actually, it looks incredible! I'm really impressed with how it functions. I tried a bunch of different neon colours, and sign patterns for fun, but I'm a sucker for the ice blue neon and pink sign so I put the DIPS back to the default settings. I showed my son and he couldn't tell I had done anything. To me, this shouts perfect mod! One that blends in. It is the perfect compliment to the Swink's Snackbar Mod. Two wonderful mods that no one will ever notice (except maybe my bank account) Ha ha!
IN DEPTH
I was seeing white light pulse through the neon. It was coming from the cool white LED inside the snackbar. Most people probably wouldn't even notice, but it bothered me so I decided to swap it out for a bulbless version.
I am getting a bit of light bleed under the Snack Bar sign. Again, most people won't even notice, but my OCD does. In the image below you can see the thin line of light coming out from under the Snack Bar signage. I have the strip pushed in as far as it can go. The screw placement on the Snack Bar sign really only locks the back in place allowing the front to float a bit. Not a big deal. I'll probably get some black double-sided adhesive, or maybe even just sneak a drop of hot glue in there before securing it. Definitely not a deal breaker.
I noticed the pink from my Snack Bar also bleeding through into the neon. Below, you can see the pink from the 11 LED strip bleeding into the 20 LED strip neon (currently red) at the very tip of the Snackbar mod. I'll probably add some sort of baffle inside to block the light from doing this. Black felt will probably do the trick.
I think I'm going to relocate my 20 LED strip as well. I want to see more light towards the front of the Snack Bar mod near the tip. I have it back too far now and the front isn't getting as much light as I would like. If you have a V5 from Swinks I would suggest installing the 20 LED strip more towards the tip/front.
I am really nitpicking here and I don't consider any of these issues flaws in the product. I consider them flaws in my personality! This pinball machine means a lot to me and I try to give it as much inanimate love as I can. Ha!
CONCLUSION
This is a brilliant mod that I have only positive vibes for. It is a professional build and you can tell that great care was taken in designing it. It really brings Swink's Snack Bar to life! If you have a Swink's Snack Bar, then you are doing yourself an injustice if you do not have the Move Your Snackbar to accompany it. Hitting all 4 of the snack standup targets and watching the lights to the Snack Bar blink on in time to the callout will have you smiling from ear to ear!
Thank you to stumblor (Davey) soooooo much for taking the time to create this, and to market it to smucks like me that do nothing but have opinions. Huge pat on the back to you! If we ever meet, and I hope we do, first pint is on me. Maybe even the second pint!
Great writeup Tim and thanks a lot for taking the time to put it together. The best part of building mods has to be seeing them used and enjoyed in all the far flung places of the world.
Its funny sometimes explaining to people that one of my side gigs is building a circuit board that does a little light show for someone elses snackbar in a pinball machine about a drive in movie monster. Pinball can be weird and frivolous sometimes but it makes us smile and isn't that a great thing.
Melbourne
Quoted from Fifty:Hi everyone! Here's my quick review. If anyone has any questions about how I did my install or if something isn't clear please feel free to message me. For reference, I am installing the Move Your Snackbar mod in Swink's Snackbar Version 5..
PACKAGING
Everything was well packed and protected. The circuit board was in an anti-static bag. The LED strips were in clear parts bags, the cardboard shipping box was lined in protective foam. Nothing was damaged. Colour instructions were provided.
INSTALLATION
I completed the installation about a week ago. Like BigIan mentioned earlier, it's a bit fiddly getting the LED strip lined up behind the snack bar sign, but it's worth the time and patience you put into it. Don't rush this install. Make sure you take your time. I had a few questions regarding the placement of the LED strips, but Davey responded immediately and cleared things up for me.
I chose to mount my PCB vertically so that I would have easier access to the DIP switches. I screwed it directly into the playfield, which stumblor should take as a HUGE compliment. I like things factory original, and normally the thought of screwing anything into a playfield gives me shivers, but this little circuit board looked so nice I didn't mind at all.
I only used 3 of the 4 provided mounting screws, but all 4 standoffs. The top left corner is the one I chose not to screw down. It was too close to the cable management bracket. On my pin, the bracket is flipped the other way at least when compared to the photo shown in the manual. That made it a little tighter fit for me so I did without the fourth screw. It's solid enough. I wouldn't recommend using less than 3 screws.
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Here is what the underside of my Swink's Snackbar looks like with the LED strip mounted.
[quoted image] [quoted image]
For the snack bar sign (below), the wiring tucks right behind the 11 LED strip and the whole thing fits snuggly into place. Once screwed back down to the roof of Swink's mod it look like this.
[quoted image]
When I went to install everything back into my pin I noticed the wires were swapped on my LED Matrix component. I spoke to Davey about this briefly and he told me this wasn't an issue.
[quoted image]
Feeding the new wiring through the vacant playfield hole was easy enough, again just take your time. I connected all the wiring to the newly mounted circuit board under the playfield. The connectors are small, just be careful and use a delicate touch.
POWER ON
I just have to say right away, that I am really impressed with this mod. The Move Your Snackbar looks great. Actually, it looks incredible! I'm really impressed with how it functions. I tried a bunch of different neon colours, and sign patterns for fun, but I'm a sucker for the ice blue neon and pink sign so I put the DIPS back to the default settings. I showed my son and he couldn't tell I had done anything. To me, this shouts perfect mod! One that blends in. It is the perfect compliment to the Swink's Snackbar Mod. Two wonderful mods that no one will ever notice (except maybe my bank account) Ha ha!
IN DEPTH
I was seeing white light pulse through the neon. It was coming from the cool white LED inside the snackbar. Most people probably wouldn't even notice, but it bothered me so I decided to swap it out for a bulbless version.
[quoted image]
I am getting a bit of light bleed under the Snack Bar sign. Again, most people won't even notice, but my OCD does. In the image below you can see the thin line of light coming out from under the Snack Bar signage. I have the strip pushed in as far as it can go. The screw placement on the Snack Bar sign really only locks the back in place allowing the front to float a bit. Not a big deal. I'll probably get some black double-sided adhesive, or maybe even just sneak a drop of hot glue in there before securing it. Definitely not a deal breaker.
[quoted image]
I noticed the pink from my Snack Bar also bleeding through into the neon. Below, you can see the pink from the 11 LED strip bleeding into the 20 LED strip neon (currently red) at the very tip of the Snackbar mod. I'll probably add some sort of baffle inside to block the light from doing this. Black felt will probably do the trick.
[quoted image]
I think I'm going to relocate my 20 LED strip as well. I want to see more light towards the front of the Snack Bar mod near the tip. I have it back too far now and the front isn't getting as much light as I would like. If you have a V5 from Swinks I would suggest installing the 20 LED strip more towards the tip/front.
[quoted image]
I am really nitpicking here and I don't consider any of these issues flaws in the product. I consider them flaws in my personality! This pinball machine means a lot to me and I try to give it as much inanimate love as I can. Ha!
CONCLUSION
This is a brilliant mod that I have only positive vibes for. It is a professional build and you can tell that great care was taken in designing it. It really brings Swink's Snack Bar to life! If you have a Swink's Snack Bar, then you are doing yourself an injustice if you do not have the Move Your Snackbar to accompany it. Hitting all 4 of the snack standup targets and watching the lights to the Snack Bar blink on in time to the callout will have you smiling from ear to ear!
Thank you to stumblor (Davey) soooooo much for taking the time to create this, and to market it to smucks like me that do nothing but have opinions. Huge pat on the back to you! If we ever meet, and I hope we do, first pint is on me. Maybe even the second pint!
Impressive review and writeup mate - I haven't installed mine yet but will be rereading your post when I do. Thanks for sharing
Quoted from Manny65:Impressive review and writeup mate - I haven't installed mine yet but will be rereading your post when I do. Thanks for sharing
Thanks for the kind words. It's a super fun mod. I was playing around with the different colours again tonight.
Quoted from Devilsmuse:Please add me to your list. Just found about this I want in
Quoted from paragon07:Please add me to the list if possible. Love the Swinks Snackbar and this would be a fantastic addition.
Thanks
Quoted from dmacy:Please add me to this too. I really like it!
No worries - all added. Thanks for the support! You'll all be in the final round (8) which is the one after next.
Quoted from Fifty:Hi everyone! Here's my quick review. If anyone has any questions about how I did my install or if something isn't clear please feel free to message me. For reference, I am installing the Move Your Snackbar mod in Swink's Snackbar Version 5..
PACKAGING
Everything was well packed and protected. The circuit board was in an anti-static bag. The LED strips were in clear parts bags, the cardboard shipping box was lined in protective foam. Nothing was damaged. Colour instructions were provided.
INSTALLATION
I completed the installation about a week ago. Like BigIan mentioned earlier, it's a bit fiddly getting the LED strip lined up behind the snack bar sign, but it's worth the time and patience you put into it. Don't rush this install. Make sure you take your time. I had a few questions regarding the placement of the LED strips, but Davey responded immediately and cleared things up for me.
I chose to mount my PCB vertically so that I would have easier access to the DIP switches. I screwed it directly into the playfield, which stumblor should take as a HUGE compliment. I like things factory original, and normally the thought of screwing anything into a playfield gives me shivers, but this little circuit board looked so nice I didn't mind at all.
I only used 3 of the 4 provided mounting screws, but all 4 standoffs. The top left corner is the one I chose not to screw down. It was too close to the cable management bracket. On my pin, the bracket is flipped the other way at least when compared to the photo shown in the manual. That made it a little tighter fit for me so I did without the fourth screw. It's solid enough. I wouldn't recommend using less than 3 screws.
[quoted image] [quoted image] [quoted image]
Here is what the underside of my Swink's Snackbar looks like with the LED strip mounted.
[quoted image] [quoted image]
For the snack bar sign (below), the wiring tucks right behind the 11 LED strip and the whole thing fits snuggly into place. Once screwed back down to the roof of Swink's mod it look like this.
[quoted image]
When I went to install everything back into my pin I noticed the wires were swapped on my LED Matrix component. I spoke to Davey about this briefly and he told me this wasn't an issue.
[quoted image]
Feeding the new wiring through the vacant playfield hole was easy enough, again just take your time. I connected all the wiring to the newly mounted circuit board under the playfield. The connectors are small, just be careful and use a delicate touch.
POWER ON
I just have to say right away, that I am really impressed with this mod. The Move Your Snackbar looks great. Actually, it looks incredible! I'm really impressed with how it functions. I tried a bunch of different neon colours, and sign patterns for fun, but I'm a sucker for the ice blue neon and pink sign so I put the DIPS back to the default settings. I showed my son and he couldn't tell I had done anything. To me, this shouts perfect mod! One that blends in. It is the perfect compliment to the Swink's Snackbar Mod. Two wonderful mods that no one will ever notice (except maybe my bank account) Ha ha!
IN DEPTH
I was seeing white light pulse through the neon. It was coming from the cool white LED inside the snackbar. Most people probably wouldn't even notice, but it bothered me so I decided to swap it out for a bulbless version.
[quoted image]
I am getting a bit of light bleed under the Snack Bar sign. Again, most people won't even notice, but my OCD does. In the image below you can see the thin line of light coming out from under the Snack Bar signage. I have the strip pushed in as far as it can go. The screw placement on the Snack Bar sign really only locks the back in place allowing the front to float a bit. Not a big deal. I'll probably get some black double-sided adhesive, or maybe even just sneak a drop of hot glue in there before securing it. Definitely not a deal breaker.
[quoted image]
I noticed the pink from my Snack Bar also bleeding through into the neon. Below, you can see the pink from the 11 LED strip bleeding into the 20 LED strip neon (currently red) at the very tip of the Snackbar mod. I'll probably add some sort of baffle inside to block the light from doing this. Black felt will probably do the trick.
[quoted image]
I think I'm going to relocate my 20 LED strip as well. I want to see more light towards the front of the Snack Bar mod near the tip. I have it back too far now and the front isn't getting as much light as I would like. If you have a V5 from Swinks I would suggest installing the 20 LED strip more towards the tip/front.
[quoted image]
I am really nitpicking here and I don't consider any of these issues flaws in the product. I consider them flaws in my personality! This pinball machine means a lot to me and I try to give it as much inanimate love as I can. Ha!
CONCLUSION
This is a brilliant mod that I have only positive vibes for. It is a professional build and you can tell that great care was taken in designing it. It really brings Swink's Snack Bar to life! If you have a Swink's Snack Bar, then you are doing yourself an injustice if you do not have the Move Your Snackbar to accompany it. Hitting all 4 of the snack standup targets and watching the lights to the Snack Bar blink on in time to the callout will have you smiling from ear to ear!
Thank you to stumblor (Davey) soooooo much for taking the time to create this, and to market it to smucks like me that do nothing but have opinions. Huge pat on the back to you! If we ever meet, and I hope we do, first pint is on me. Maybe even the second pint!
Great write up, thank you for sharing! I haven’t installed my V5/Move, but will certainly use your post for guidance once I do.
Just got my stumblor Snack Bar lighting mod in the mail today - 12 days total in the mail system which I think is pretty good considering I live in a small town in the middle of the country. Will put it together this weekend with the 1.5 conversion kit that
swinks put on Shapeways (thanks!) Looking forward to seeing it in action!
snack bar mod (resized).jpgI gotta say, I'm enjoying the Knight Rider pattern the most so far. I knew I would like it, but I honestly didn't think it would be a front runner.
Quoted from ReadyPO:Just got my stumblor Snack Bar lighting mod in the mail today - 12 days total in the mail system which I think is pretty good considering I live in a small town in the middle of the country. Will put it together this weekend with the 1.5 conversion kit that swinks put on Shapeways (thanks!) Looking forward to seeing it in action!
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Wahey! Great stuff. Let me know how you get on with the install.
Quoted from Fifty:I gotta say, I'm enjoying the Knight Rider pattern the most so far. I knew I would like it, but I honestly didn't think it would be a front runner.
Probably my favourite too. Its two sine waves - the first controlling the fade from left to right, the second controlling the movement over time. Finally those high school maths classes are paying off! Originally I was going to steer away from fading patterns, to try to keep it as authentic 'neon' as possible. But once i'd tried them they looked so good I had to keep em.
1 week later
Quoted from Jackalwere:As a TWIP Pinball Promoter, I nominated this mod for a TWIP award for best mod of 2020!
true but isn't the same without the snackbar mod 
Quoted from Jackalwere:As a TWIP Pinball Promoter, I nominated this mod for a TWIP award for best mod of 2020!
Wow... I'm honestly humbled! Really didn't expect any votes this year, and considering how many insanely great mods there are out there at the moment (Compy's TZ backboard for instance) I'm happy even to be considered in the same league. Huge thanks.
Also this ....
Quoted from swinks:true but isn't the same without the snackbar mod
Certainly loses a lot of its lustre that's for certain !! 
In all seriousness though there wouldn't even be this project without the amazing work Jady has done on the Snackbar mod. Huge amount of work from him, sometimes thankless (though fortunately not often) but the end result is one of the most recognisable and loved mods in all of pinball. Good to point out how welcoming and forthcoming he was when I proposed this project to him in the first place. Big ups Jady!
Quoted from swinks:true but isn't the same without the snackbar mod
I know it my friend! Too bad this is the first year I could nominate a mod as a Pinball Promoter, in years past I would have nominated yours for sure.
Quoted from mrbillishere:Hi stumblor, please add me to your chase-board list. So cool. You're gonna sell thousands!
Quoted from Gunner:Please add me to your chase-board list. I want in. Thanks!
Great stuff, both added. Thanks!
Now that we're onto the last round of 'Move your Snackbar' mods, I'm ready to start work on the Chase Echo. I'll create a proper thread last this afternoon, stay tuned!
3 weeks later
Quoted from swinks:congrats stumblor you made it to the TWIP list for best mod
Agreed! Congrats! Couldn't think of a more deserving guy and a killer mod!
Quoted from swinks:congrats stumblor you made it to the TWIP list for best mod
Quoted from Compy:Agreed! Congrats! Couldn't think of a more deserving guy and a killer mod!
Thanks very much fellas for the kind words. Considering all the other incredible work that is about at the moment I'm amazed and humbled even to be included on the same list.
I once read an anecdote that Liam Gallagher from Oasis called his new band "beady eye" simply because it would mean that he'd get listed next to the Beatles in music catalogues. I feel a bit like that - snuck a seat on the big kids table, but not quite sure how I managed it, and almost definately on the coat tails of others.
Huge thanks to all those who voted. And an even bigger thanks to those that will vote again. Biggest thanks of all to Jady swinks who deserves equals shares in the accolades and without who this mod wouldn't even exist. A top guy and a good mate.
Vote for Pedro!
Just a quick update...
Tested MYS with the new L5 rom this morning, and while I wasn't expecting any surprises it's nice to see that everything is still working as expected. The Chase Echo, which potentially had a bigger risk of issues due to being reliant on the GI line, is also a-ok. There's been a few discussions as to exactly what L5 does with the lighting, and the general consensus seems to be that the LED inserts seem to be less-ghostey with L5. LED GI fading issues remain however. I'm running two Afterglow boards in my machine (one nano for the inserts and one GI) and happily they both work without issues as well.
In other news, the next 10 boards are built and ready to go out. Those peeps that have paid an invoice recently, you'll have tracking numbers incoming later today. Thanks for everyones patience. The UK is now on full lockdown which means working from home and trying to get the kids to do schoolwork at the same time. Everyone is fed up and frustrated. Good to remember that there are people and families in much worse situations - I have heard there are even some homes without a single pinball machines in the house! *gasp* *shocked face* Keep calm and carry on (making light of a bad situation).
On that note - here's some boards!
pasted_image (resized).pngJust a little side project I've been working on - it's an auto eddy board that triggers a lightshow when a ball is detected. I designed it for Theatre of Magic, so the magic wand outlane magna-save triggers a 'magical' lighting effect, but it will work for all the eddy games - CV, RS etc. More on that soon!
Quoted from stumblor:Just a little side project I've been working on - it's an auto eddy board that triggers a lightshow when a ball is detected. I designed it for Theatre of Magic, so the magic wand outlane magna-save triggers a 'magical' lighting effect, but it will work for all the eddy games - CV, RS etc. More on that soon!
Cool!
Quoted from stumblor:Just a little side project I've been working on - it's an auto eddy board that triggers a lightshow when a ball is detected. I designed it for Theatre of Magic, so the magic wand outlane magna-save triggers a 'magical' lighting effect, but it will work for all the eddy games - CV, RS etc. More on that soon!
I don't have any of these games. My wallet is safe.
Glad to see my mod is coming soon! How does one acquire the Afterglow boards? I've seen them mentioned in a few threads and my initial search showed someone made a run of the blank pcbs and people were building them themselves... I was wondering if anyone sells the finished boards or a kit with all the parts?
We've done a couple of group buys from PCBWay over on this side of the pond, which were great - but a lot of work for the organiser (ie me!)
This is the one I did for the AG:
And this is a more recent one done by someone else for the AGGI:
https://www.pinballinfo.com/community/threads/afterglow-gi-aggi-for-short-bulk-order.47907/
In multiples of about 50 they worked out at about £40ea. If you ever did decide to go down this route we'd be happy to share all the BOM and PCBWay order information that we generated from creating those orders.
I have a couple of bare boards left, but no kits. Not sure of anyone doing it in kit form. Because it's all SMD soldering it's a bit of a faff to do yourself, but doable. Let me know if you'd like a bare board I can hook you up.
If you have a WPC machine, they are certainly well worth having and make a huge, huge difference.
1 week later
Got my mod today in the mail, woo! Got the Snackbar mod a few weeks ago, so this weekend I plan on getting it all set up in my game. Excited!
Quoted from nwpinball:Got my mod today in the mail, woo! Got the Snackbar mod a few weeks ago, so this weekend I plan on getting it all set up in my game. Excited!
I got mine too yesterday. Will hopefully get to install it in the next week.
Quoted from nwpinball:Got my mod today in the mail, woo! Got the Snackbar mod a few weeks ago, so this weekend I plan on getting it all set up in my game. Excited!
Quoted from Mikespinball:I got mine too yesterday. Will hopefully get to install it in the next week.
Great stuff! Thanks for the update and let me know how you get on with it.
Quoted from robey99:Are these still available for purchase. If so, how can I purchase. Just installed my version 4 Swinks mod. Thanks.
He's working on the Chase Echo mod right now, but I am pretty sure he'll do another MYS run in the future.
Quoted from robey99:Are these still available for purchase. If so, how can I purchase. Just installed my version 4 Swinks mod. Thanks.
Heya! Yep shifting gear onto the next mod, but still got the parts to make a few more MYS mods so sure we can slot you in somewhere. Will PM. *thumbs*
1 month later
Finally got a chance to install. It is every bit as awesome in person if not more so. My buddy really loves it too. Nice job! Liking forward to you to your other one!
Some video of it in play.
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