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Merry Christmas to me - Student Loans - PAID!!!!!!

By NPO

7 years ago


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#33 7 years ago

Because a decent engineer has a higher ceiling for income, that's why.

#42 7 years ago
Quoted from PW79:

I know alarm installers making $50K-$150K tho. Thats a sweet ceiling for the debt free "uneducated". Cant even do a Roth @ that level
The cable guy worked for 8 years while the engineer went into debt. Factor future interest + current loan debt + 8 years of lost wages & that engineer has a lot of ground to make up. The engineer has a leg up tho when the tradesman gets hurt. Engineers can nurse a wound while a tradesman sits at home with no income
Not attacking engineers. 2 are visiting my house today. Just saying education debt is risk. Like an investment mr investingdad
Also I have a kid, maybe a few more later, so education costs vs benefits are on my mind a lot.
OP not trying to riff your chill. Keep on moving on up & kudos again.

Eight years? Only four years to get an engineering degree.

I've learned not to debate this topic, good luck in whatever decision you make.

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#74 7 years ago
Quoted from sevenrites:

Whoops, looks like I was a bit off, student debt has surpassed credit card debt but not mortgage debt. That makes more sense anyway. It's still ridiculous. There's no way the people can ever get out of debt with this debt based federal reserve fraud going on. If 2 people are on an island and each borrow .50 from a banker and only $1 exists on the island, where does the interest come from?

From the productivity of the borrowers inside the economy of the island.

Currency is a medium of exchange for goods and services and the total amount of money available increases in a growing economy.

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Thinking about this more, I get the sense that a lot of folks don't understand what money is and how it's created.

Let's take two people. One fixes pinball machines and the other has a cow that produces milk. Let's say you agree to fix my pinball machine in exchange for five gallons of milk that my cow produces.

So, you fix it. I owe you five gallons of milk. Except the cow hasn't produced it yet. So I give you five tokens, each one worth one gallon of milk.

You take them. But instead of coming back next week for the milk, you exchange one token each with five different people who agree to take one token each for various pinball parts. And they each cash them in with me later for the gallons of milk I owe.

Those tokens had no value until we agreed on what they were worth. They became money where none existed before. They became the medium of exchange of goods, services, and productivity.

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