Star Trek: The Next Generation
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Hey guys, I don't have one yet. That's kind of why I'm posting. If anyone knows of a machine that's reasonably priced, I'd be interested. I just can pay these premiums for shopping and LED's.
I'm not wealthy and I like learning as a clean up a machine.
Any advice or help appreciated.
Quoted from Pahuffman:There was a guy in the Huntsville/Madison area who had a modded STTNG for sale on Craigslist a while back. I'm not sure if it's still up there. If not, you can probably call the guy on CL who is always posting looking for games for sale in Huntsville. I understand he's been in the business for about 30 years and probably can point you in the right direction.
Thanks!!
Yo Dudes, I just Joined the club. Question: I hear you can use the NOFLIX for shields and get dimming with out doing the OCD board.....Does it have to be NOFLIX or do Cointaker Premiums work as well?
Quoted from Schwaggs:I never heard non-flickering LEDs would dim properly. They might not flicker, but I didn't hear that they would actually dim.
Schwaggs start here...watch the video midway down...https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/sttng-comet-leds-for-the-shields?
Quoted from herg:You're talking about this video?
» YouTube video
If so, both of the LEDs shown look pretty bad to me. They do dim, but they both flicker at lower brightness. The author of that post also says:It sounds to me like he wasn't satisfied with the results.
I don't care if you buy a board or not, but I've seen you asking this question in what feels like half a dozen threads, and some very knowledgeable people have responded. I do not think that good results for both dimming and flicker rejection are possible in a standard sized LED. To avoid the flicker, you end up using capacitors, assuming you can find high enough values that are small enough to fit. Those end up charging to the input voltage and the LEDs will show near full brightness.
herg , it’s been 3 threads, one I started and drained when I found the video and got responses elsewhere.
I’ve asked if the Comet LEDs work as well as NOFLIX, and if cointaker premiums are comparable.
I’ve seen NOFLIX in person, it’s slightly better than the Comet in the video.
Compared to LED OCD or GI OCD it’s like comparing a Camaro and a Ferrari.
Your boards are amazing. However, they are expensive, and in the case of my STTNG incompatible(without a mod I’d rather not make) since I have a kbop led mod.
It’d be nice for those of us who have to trade up over years to get into nice pins had a more economical solution...even if it isn’t nearly the performance level of your gear.
The issue for me was that NOFLIX are expensive and have to shipped from Germany. I was hoping Comet would work. That’s about when I found the video.
Honestly, I’ve never said anything but good things about the OCD boards.
They ARE worth the money, I’d have one in every machine, and I’d have a lot more DMD titles.
I’m just trying to find an alternate solution that provides better performance than what I have, that’s more in my budget.
I mean I think a WOZ ruby red is worth it, but I’ll never have one.
It’s really weird to go back and read the thread the video is in, and compare the “it does work, but not perfectly ” “it helps a little” reactions and interest in seeing some progress being made.
To today, where apparently trying to find info about a more cost effective solution that isn’t close to the level of perfection of the OCD boards....generates a lot of, “it doesn’t work at all, either OCD or turn off dimming” feedback.
Quoted from pezpunk:Herg's work has raised everyone's standards.
Fair point.
Quoted from herg:Each GI string is fused at 2A on GI OCD. You can run a max of probably 5 incandescent or so per string, along with the remaining LEDs.
I don't think that's mocean was getting at, though. It wouldn't make much sense to leave a bunch of bulbs incandescent AND install a GI OCD. If you want to keep to a budget, which is entirely understandable, keeping all incandescent in the GI is a viable option.
Good options I can think of:
1. Leave it incandescent.
2. Install LEDs in the GI, but leave the shields incandescent to avoid flicker right in the middle of the playfield.
3. Install LEDs and turn off dimming.
4. Find LEDs that work well enough for your personal performance tolerance. There are none that meet this for me, BTW.
5. Other options I'm sure to forget about.
6. Buy a GI OCD and install LEDs.
...and dammit, I've tried really hard to not post any advertisements about my boards, and now I have. I really don't want to push them on anyone who doesn't want to buy or even read about them.
I’ve really tried to make it clear that I love your product @herg.
Honestly, I think a machine with your boards and NoFlix are the best you can get.
Maybe one day I’ll have enough hobby income to play with the big boys
Quoted from adii:Anybody put one of the CPR backglasses in their STTNG? I like the mirroring but I'm not sold on the artwork. Such as Jean Luc PiGorbachev. I'm hoping to hear from someone that has seen these in person before ordering.
http://www.classicplayfields.com/photo207.html
I’d love to know too...I just can’t seem to pull the trigger.
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