I thought it should be the other way around, sttng + cash = ij or am i reading what you wrote wrong? You are talking about ij93, right? Sttng is a 4k game all day long. Ij is 5500-6600. I could not stand sttng, felt very clunky and slow and I had a near cq dialed in game. Could not get into it at all. I like ij much better.

It really comes down to which theme you prefer. Both are pretty much equal in game play.

I prefer STTNG to IJ when it comes to gameplay. As far as pricing is concerned though, IJ sells for a good chunk more than STTNG. At least a grand.

I think you did good with that deal. Fair for both.

Ah, now that sounds more like it.

That's a deal I'd make.

Just get both, problem solved.

I feel old I paid 2000.00 for My Indiana Jones 15 years ago, and I thought THAT was crazy then.

Fair deal.

fair deal. have both, enjoy indy more than sttng. both are great games

Indiana Jones is a much better pinball machine. STTNG is very good but doesn't stack up to IJ.

Thats a fair deal, that being said there is no way my IJ would be replaced by STTNG...

Ij is worth about 1500 more than stnng.

Better game too

I own both. I have to say I think sttng is better, but very close. Ij can be a post monster and not as flowy.

I own both, don't want to part with either. My sttng was nicely modded by previous owner with powder coated armor, painted ship, color dmd, it's awesome.

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Great deal on your part. I have both and am a huge fan of both franchises. However, I think STTNG is a better game. Not too crowded but loaded with shots and toys. The modes build are great too. Not a knock on IJ, but if I had to let one to Indy would be out the door.

You have chosen....wisely.

IJ, better rules - more modes. STTNG is a good game but cheap drains tend to steal the fun

IJ: slow turd of a layout with awesome theme, sound, modes. STTNG: awesome in every way. Great trade by you!

Both are fantastic games. At this level of quality, the choice is subjective. I'll always choose IJ if necessary.

Looks like you are looking for validation of your trade...not opinions on which game is better. Jus sayin.

BTW...I have an IJ but really want a STTNG to sit next to it. I want both!

STTNG was always a game I wish wasn't star trek based as that damn theme gets so annoying. Otherwise great layout and shots. IJ is a classic of course - can't go wrong. Wish both weren't widebodies but that's another story.

I love wide bodies! As long as they aren't too wide...

I thought the same thing. I thought it was a mistake, personally, but he likes what he likes, so who am I to judge?

IJ is a better game in every aspect. Better Art, call outs, theme, toys, game play and resale. I also like the fact that IJ only has one plastic ramp, STTNG a lot of plastic ramps. The game never gets old in my opinion. My only complaint with IJ is the left exit from the pops, the ball just seems to ooz out most of the time. STTNG is a great playing pin too and the only thing it has on IJ is it can be had for way cheaper. I sold a NIB. STTNG a few months ago and regret that I did that. I don't think you can go wrong with either on value wise if you like both of them equally. One has higher resale, but the other can be bought cheaper so that argument is not valid.

I can't seem to get enough of IJ as it is my first pin that I picked up 20 yrs ago. The theme just grabs me.
Game play is great going to either one but it all comes down what theme you prefer. For me I figure
IJ would sell for more from what I've seen.

There is not a pin better than IJ . Everything about the game is amazing. I have had 70 pins in 8 years and IJ for 5 and it will never leave. I like STTNG and had it for 2 years. I would get it again sometime but in no hurry.

IJA is the perfect game in my opinion. There's just something to it that keeps me coming back and even after playing it for almost 25 years I still find myself reaching new levels of fun. Adding a PinSound board really helped push the game to 11.

I own both and both are fantastic pins. Neither are leaving anytime soon but I very briefly considered letting STTNG go to help fund an Alien. I quickly realized I would regret letting STTNG go and decided to just pony up the cash for an Alien instead.

Both represent some of the best theme integration of all time. IJ is just well done from head to tail and has very fun modes....and even though I'm not the biggest fan of video modes I think the ones in IJ are some of the best out there. STTNG has custom callouts by ALL of the main characters.....that's unheard of in pinball and very cool. If you're a fan of STTNG all the better. IT can be a pretty brutal game with those outlanes but will certainly up your "nudging" skills.

Better callouts? Have you played Sttng? Because anyone that says STTNG is lacking in callouts when all the modes and gameplay have custom speech through is out of their mind. The IJ jackpot calls though are fantastic, but not at the custom sttng level.

I've had sttng for about 9 years now, and had IJ a few years ago. Both games have great modes, but the Star Trek ones are better in my opinion because there's a point to beating them (artifact for the wizard mode). STTNG shoots a lot better as well with the third flipper, there are a lot more shots and combos. I do think that the art on IJ is better. The toys? Path of adventure vs turrets and borg ship? I don't think there's really that much difference there.

I think IJ has a killer theme and looks fantastic but it isn't the greatest playing game in the world relative to other games of the era. When you're outside the modes IJ doesn't have anything like the Warp 9.9 mode to really go after. I really wanted to keep IJ but the longer term thing of modes not really mattering (other than some extra balls) made it expendable. STTNG has stayed in large part because of that fact for me. You must like Star Trek:TNG the show to really like the pinball I think (keeper status), whereas IJ is a lot more appealing to a broader audience.

I have owned both games for almost 20 years, and would generally agree with your statements above.

STTNG:
- All about flow and intensity, adrenaline rush.
- Theme integration and callouts are probably the finest in pinball, IJ and TaF up there as well.
- Looks 10x better with LEDs, fits the cool space theme and colors.
- STTNG needs to be well maintained, esp. strong flippers to be fun. Definitely get the lane extenders as well, at least for the right outlane. Most examples out there are clunkers that aren't fun to shoot, a well maintained example is amazing though.

IJ:
- Oozes adventure! Warm and inviting.
- Some really fun shots but the pops are kind of pointless and the mode start is a PIA.
- LEDing the GI will usually kill the magic on this one. Needs warm sparkly incandescent bulbs to make the warm playfield colors glow.

Basically, two completely different feeling games, both excellent. I'd be torn to choose between them, but I think you did fine with your trade and hope you enjoy STTNG!

I own both as well. I don't think you can go wrong owning either one.

this is honestly what it boils down to...