STTNG Full Tilt Modding


By knockerlover

9 months ago


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#1 9 months ago

A while ago I put together a beautiful star trek next generation, that I poured lots of time, love, and money into to make it how I wanted it. It had Mike Chestnut black nickel chrome everything. (Gun, Rails, Lockdown, Legs, Wireforms), hand painted borg ship, upgraded and modded hallmark ships, etc. Someone came over to look at another game in my collection, and offered me (at the time) silly money for it, and I regrettably took it.

When one popped up on craigslist just a few miles from me that had been kept in a home for the past 15 years, I had to jump on it. My plan is to take this game to the fullest (and still tasteful) extent possible. Since this isn't really a restoration but more of a cleaning/upgrading I thought the modding thread would be a good place to document the progress, and talk with you guys along the way!

I've had a few people ask me what I usually do to a game, and it's really hard to remember/list everything so hopefully this will help with some of that also.

Here is the short-term plan: (all done now)

Clean inside of cabinet/lightly sand out water spots and dark stains
Remove wiring harnessess and hand clean with bleche wite
Re-pin burned connectors (GI)
There is one connector with two cut wires, need to inspect and repair as needed. update: appears to be a hack for the backbox GI the orig are burned out.
Replace all broken parts
Replace all posts and rubbers
Convert Red Top-lanes, and Pop bumper caps with purple
replace pop bumper rollover switches with purple
replace white pop bumper housing
replace all ramps with NOS ramps
upgraded ramp protectors
Metal Polish all large metal pieces (5 different grit's of scotch brite, mothers polish, and finally a polishing compound and buffing)
Remove subway and clean

Inspect boards for hacks/cold solder joints and repair as needed

clean cannon mechanisms (they are noisy as all heck currently because the motor strains to turn them, they are pretty gummed up)
flipper rebuild
new flipper bats
hand painted borg ship
hand painted launchers
Target Decal Set
Cointaker LED and Flasher Kit
Neutral Zone Cliffy
Metal Spacer Cabinet Protectors

Hand Painted (Accents and Battlewear) Hallmark Romulan Ship with (LED MOD)

Hand Painted (Battle Wear) Hallmark Klingon Bird of Prey + Zitt's Wing LED Mod

Hand Painted (Accents and Battlewear) Hallmark Next Generation U.S.S. Enterprise

Color DMD LCD
LED OCD
PinSound Board
Flipper Fidelity Speakers (2.1 w/ stereo adapter for pinsound)
Remove Playfield
Topside Teardown
Novus 3 in spots
Novus 2
Meguiar's M9 Mirror Glaze Swirl Remover
Meguiar's M7 Mirror Glaze Show Car Glaze
Novus 1
Carnuba Wax
remove all underside boards and scrub with simple green
clean all inserts underneath

Long-Term plan:
plastic protectors
lighted flipper buttons
Dome covers for launchers
chrome siderails
chrome lockdown bar
black nickel chrome habitrails
black nickel trough rails
rebuild launcher gun
black nickel launcher gun w/ chrome trigger
Ball Launcher Ultra Thin Cliffy
Great Lakes Modular DCS-TBS - Widebody Ball Trough Opto Board Set
Great Lakes Modular WPC-UFB - Universal WPC Flipper Boards
Aurich Alternate Translite
blue hard plastic borg ship windows
pinbits STTNG Extended Exit Lane Ball Guides- Stainless Steel
Widebody Invisiglass
anyPin NVRAM Battery Eliminator

#2 9 months ago

Damn man, post pics of these beauty when it's done!

#3 9 months ago

Holy crying out loud

#4 9 months ago

Topside Teardown
When someone says they "fully shopped" a game.. ask them for a picture like this..

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#5 9 months ago

I have a video of the previous game I did, I'm thinking I'll tone down the purple LED's quite a bit. I wanted the game to look "spacey" but still bright. Also want to take more time with the ships/painting. Combining what I did with my MB figures and the ships here.

» YouTube video

#6 9 months ago

This confirms I want to black nickle the wireforms. I've had this thought for a while, but wasn't sure how it would look. Definitely looks sweet!

#7 9 months ago

Wire forms, phaser launcher, and lockdown bar headed out for plating.

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#8 9 months ago

I need to drop off my STTNG and a pile of cash so you can do both at once! Looking forward to seeing this one done!

PS. Do the extended outlanes now. No rag-rets.

#9 9 months ago

setting the bar a little higher....nice work as always knockerlover.

#10 9 months ago

Adding a little shine

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#11 9 months ago

I'm going to end up taking my STTNG all apart because of this thread...

#12 9 months ago

Working on the hallmark enterprise d

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#13 9 months ago

Cleaning inserts and listening to some Guthrie govan. Also, bic pen coil stop bumper mod? That's a new one.

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#14 9 months ago

Going through try some of this pigment on the cannons around where the ball launches from. Stoked about this!!

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#15 9 months ago

Before and after borg ship

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#16 9 months ago

bumpin for one bad assed ship...very nice.

#17 9 months ago

Cleaning the cannon assemblies with zep degreaser.

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#18 9 months ago
Quoted from knockerlover:

I have a video of the previous game I did, I'm thinking I'll tone down the purple LED's quite a bit. I wanted the game to look "spacey" but still bright. Also want to take more time with the ships/painting. Combining what I did with my MB figures and the ships here.
» YouTube video

Damn. Is there a pin sound board in there. Thats HOT.

#19 9 months ago

WOW!!!!!

#20 9 months ago
Quoted from HarryReimer:

Damn. Is there a pin sound board in there. Thats HOT.

indeed.. and definitely doing that again.. have one at the ready!

#21 9 months ago
Quoted from knockerlover:

indeed.. and definitely doing that again.. have one at the ready!

How difficult to program and install? I have a nice one that I'm thinking of doing that with.

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#22 9 months ago

beautiful, and it has good company too! The install wasn't hard, and probably took about an hour. For the most part you can download pre-made sound libraries, but I bought the actual soundtrack song and put it in there. Figuring that out took about an hour or so also, all in all not terrible and definitely worth it!

#23 9 months ago

Simply Amazing. The first machine you did looks so cool. Any more video of the game?

#24 9 months ago

"Hey what did you do this weekend?"
"Oh you know, the usual. Cleaned around the house, took the kids to swim, retrofitted LEDs to a romulan warbird hallmark ornament"

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#25 9 months ago
Quoted from knockerlover:

"Hey what did you do this weekend?"
"Oh you know, the usual. Cleaned around the house, took the kids to swim, retrofitted LEDs to a romulan warbird hallmark ornament"

Very cool, but I've never understood why people try to make the ships look better and more realistic with onboard LEDs, and then cut the huge hole in the bottom to fit the original flasher dome back in. With so many LED options these days, that green flasher light could be done in a much more subtle way. Flex heads under / behind the ship or LED strips under the top "wings" would preserve the ship's structure and look while still retaining the flasher effect. Just a thought.

Everything looks good though, and this thread was the final straw for me to go Black Nickel on the inside metal.

#26 9 months ago
Quoted from Cheeks:

Very cool, but I've never understood why people try to make the ships look better and more realistic with onboard LEDs, and then cut the huge hole in the bottom to fit the original flasher dome back in. With so many LED options these days, that green flasher light could be done in a much more subtle way. Flex heads under / behind the ship or LED strips under the top "wings" would preserve the ship's structure and look while still retaining the flasher effect. Just a thought.
Everything looks good though, and this thread was the final straw for me to go Black Nickel on the inside metal.

Good point. I actually really liked the way the green dome looked lit up inside the romulan ship when you get into the neutral zone mode, and it is a little more true to the original. The original ship has the LED's plastic windows facing inwards. I reversed them and have them facing outwards for now to see how it looks. But I may end up reverting back when it all comes together.

#27 9 months ago

Finished romulan ship and cannons

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#28 8 months ago

Finished playfield polishing.. mirror finish baby!!

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#30 8 months ago

Doing a little metal polishing.

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#31 4 months ago

Re-decaling the backbox.

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#32 4 months ago

Putting wireforms back on and connecting everything up.

#33 4 months ago

"Welcome to the Enterprise!" can't be far away!!

#34 4 months ago

Knocker; when are you planning on wrapping this up?
I'm wondering if we should work on getting you one of the three sample sets I have here.

#35 4 months ago

Pinsound board and speakers make a big difference. Lots of great soundtracks available for STTNG.

#36 4 months ago
Quoted from Zitt:

Knocker; when are you planning on wrapping this up?
I'm wondering if we should work on getting you one of the three sample sets I have here.

The rest of the hardware will be here tomorrow!

1 week later
#37 4 months ago
Quoted from jake35:

How difficult to program and install? I have a nice one that I'm thinking of doing that with.

@jake35 What kind of trim is that you have on there, when and where did you get it done?

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#38 3 months ago

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#39 3 months ago

WOW does that look good!!

#40 3 months ago

SO MUCH SHINY!! Love it!

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#41 84 days ago

Really nice, you do this only for yourself or also for others?

#43 84 days ago

@bumper I do it as a hobby and mostly sell games when I'm done. I'd be interested so try and do a game for someone though.

#44 84 days ago

Knocker,
Is this a keeper for you or are you planning to sell?
I maybe looking for a beta tester for my PopCaps which I have stock now. I'm working on the installation instructions right now; hope to finish by end of week.
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/stng-popcaps-any-interest/page/2#post-3928847
Once I have the instructions and packaging available; I'll put them in stock on the website.

#45 83 days ago

Send me two sets, I'll personally install them on mine and @knockerlover's STTNGs!!

#46 83 days ago

Hey Zitt, this one is a keeper for me. Until someone offers me something silly I can't refuse. But it would have to be pretty silly.

Would love a set of your bumpers.

#47 83 days ago
Quoted from Zitt:

Knocker,
Is this a keeper for you or are you planning to sell?
I maybe looking for a beta tester for my PopCaps which I have stock now. I'm working on the installation instructions right now; hope to finish by end of week.
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/stng-popcaps-any-interest/page/2#post-3928847
Once I have the instructions and packaging available; I'll put them in stock on the website.

My machine is torn apart right now cleaning and installing newly Black Nickel plated wireforms, VUKs, etc. How much disassembly will be needed for your pop caps? I have your set in my STLE and I'd love to have these as well. Will stink if the timing is off enough that I have to disassemble to install them right after I get her back together.

#48 83 days ago

Amazing work. Some times I look at posts like this and think "I should do a full tear down, get the playfield cleared, etc. etc." Then I lift the playfield on my machine and think "oh hell no, there's no way I'm ever going to pull this off" lol

#49 83 days ago

Another option for pops is the plasma pops from @litedpinballmods . Just installed mine a week or two ago. I like them.

Link to some video: » YouTube video

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#50 83 days ago
Quoted from knockerlover:

Hey Zitt, this one is a keeper for me. Until someone offers me something silly I can't refuse. But it would have to be pretty silly.
Would love a set of your bumpers.

Kocker - PM me and we'll discuss the details.

Quoted from Cheeks:

My machine is torn apart right now cleaning and installing newly Black Nickel plated wireforms, VUKs, etc. How much disassembly will be needed for your pop caps? I have your set in my STLE and I'd love to have these as well. Will stink if the timing is off enough that I have to disassemble to install them right after I get her back together.

Cheeks - much easier than the Stern Popcaps; but I still recommend that you loosen the beta ramp and get it out of the way so you can easily access the "cut cap" under the beta ramp. I don't have instructions yet for the installation phase; only the EVO cap modification as Appendix A.
If you want to get an early shipment (without instructions being available); PM me.

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