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Stripping battery corrosion with a strong acid

By barakandl

7 years ago


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    Post #7 Cleaning technique Posted by barakandl (7 years ago)

    Post #8 Cleaning results of the acid compound on WMS system 3-6 MPU board Posted by barakandl (7 years ago)

    Post #10 Results of applying the acid compound on WPC MPU boards Posted by johnwartjr (7 years ago)


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    #20 7 years ago

    Excellent tutorial!

    Vinegar or Mustard is just about worthless when it comes to removing corrosion (because Mustard only has a ph of 5 compared to Snobowl's ph of 1). Your alkali that leaks from a battery is ph 13.

    I'm sure we all remember this thread, lol:

    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/terrybs-guide-to-repairing-battery-damage

    -

    You can rinse the boards off in a regular sink, just don't let any toilet cleaner glob sit in one spot for long. Once the cleaner has shot it's load, and you have diluted it with rinse water, it washes away without issue.

    #25 7 years ago
    Quoted from JohnS:

    I'd guess that chrome finishes on faucets and drains would get damaged by the acid.

    If you add an oxidizer, it sure will.

    Take 3% Hydrogen Peroxide, and mix in some of your Muriatic Acid (2 ratio), THEN pour it on your stainless or chrome sink. Instant, permanent, black stains for your wife to enjoy!

    Quoted from JohnS:

    I throw this out there for anyone that wants to do a little research. Fill a shallow plastic tray with it and dip the whole board in. But I warn you not to breath in the concentrated fumes.

    The whole idea of the Snobowl is that the liquid is thick, so it does not run all over the board, into relays or under sockets. It's a very controlled process that you can do on location.

    If you want to REMOVE the copper from the board, again add an oxidizer to the muriatic acid and let her rip.

    Your acid/peroxide mix won't eat the copper protected by the green conformal coating, but any exposed copper will be completely removed in a few minutes (the warmer the temp, the faster the reaction).

    #27 7 years ago

    BTW: if you are mixing up some acid/peroxide to etch a board or something, remember AAA - Always Add Acid.

    You would pour the acid INTO the peroxide, never the other way around.

    #29 7 years ago
    Quoted from brenna98:

    I tried this on a couple junk MPU's. Found out that you can't soak them. It will melt all plastic parts on the board.

    Interesting! I've never heard of acid melting plastics.

    What parts melted? IC socket frames? Transistor casings? Nylon standoffs? Relay housings? The epoxy circuit board itself?

    We need pics of this for sure.

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    #32 7 years ago

    Bleach is ph 12, so that would actually make it worse.

    #42 7 years ago
    Quoted from Mitch:

    So in theory then I could use acid from a old car battery to clean alkaline damage off a circuit board?

    Yes, but sulfuric acid from a car battery is runny like water.

    The SnoBowl is thick gel that stays right where you put it.

    5 months later
    #44 6 years ago

    If it's fizzing, it's working.

    (and it will kill 99% of all of your viruses too)

    #61 6 years ago
    Quoted from TimeWarp1:

    I bought my STTNG from some electronic engineer guy in Maine

    No way he was an electronic engineer with the solder job on those rear wires, LOL.

    Congrats on extending the life of that board another few decades!

    #63 6 years ago
    Quoted from yfz450:

    Most EE's I've ever worked with don't know what a soldering iron looks like.

    Even if they didn't, they would hand it over to the tech guys and say "fix this, and bill an hour to my department".

    9 months later
    #69 5 years ago
    Quoted from Chisel:

    BTW I have used "The Works" toilet bowl cleaner with success. It's found just about everywhere and it's dirt cheap ($1.65 at Dollar General stores). https://www.dollargeneral.com/the-works-disinfectant-toilet-bowl-cleaner-32-oz.html?gclid=Cj0KCQjw-uzVBRDkARIsALkZAdlXbu0pqBMM5ha55HZcICvBetzzcXx6i-_Oxp7FZfdKm4PFeQxML_MaAkKMEALw_wcB

    It is thin and runny though, not like the gel which I'll have to try.

    Check your label carefully.

    "The Works" that they sell at my local store is Hypochlorite based - the opposite of what we need.

    #71 5 years ago
    Quoted from YeOldPinPlayer:

    HCl = Hydrogen chloride - one atom of hydrogen, one of chlorine. Mix it with water and you get Hydrochloric acid.
    http://content.rpgov.net/dpw/right_to_know/Libary/The%20Works%20Toilet%20Bowl%20Cleaner.pdf

    Right.

    The Works says Hypochlorite on the $4.98 bottle, I could not find the cheaper one.

    #73 5 years ago

    Who knows?

    It's just like when everybody for years used Formula 409 to clean their tape head rollers .

    Then one day they apparently changed the formula, and it started pitting all the rollers it touched.

    Nothing on the label saying "New and Improved" or "New Formula 410", just pitted expensive rubber.

    #74 5 years ago
    Quoted from YeOldPinPlayer:

    I think your use of the word "chlorine" in post 69 is misleading.

    I changed it to Hypochlorite.

    Thanks, I see how that could be taken the wrong way!

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