Still waiting for when a cheap one of these shows up. Project or not.

It’s a neat little game! I could never justify some of the crazy prices I’ve seen for them.

Gottlieb copyrights are still enforced by the family, you’ll have to buy a manual from Steve at PBR.

Doesn’t someone sell custom balls for this game? I just picked one up that had rusty balls which caused a lot of playfield wear. I’d like to buy new custom balls for it. I thought I’ve seen them before

Steve Young - PBR
He’s the official licensee for Gottlieb materials. pbresource.com

Any consensus? I just talked to Steve and he said “it should say L5” but my game says “/6”
For the ROM. Looking for some guidance.
Also what menu option is free play? I didn’t find it anywhere but some people are saying they found a Freeplay option? Someone said tournament mode is freeplay?

Can reach an agreement?

I believe in the manual that you’re not supposed to be able to cradle it. I’d have to ask Steve Young, he remembers it fondly. I have my setup to allow cradles because why not? Lol

Can anyone recommend how to fix the issue of the kicker not being able to kick balls into the return lanes? It struggles greatly if there’s more than one ball in the back.
I’ll rebuilt it but it looks good right now. It’s nice and clean, hard to imagine the rebuilt will fix this issue

What’s the latest code it’s supposed to show? I believe mine is L114

Where?! I could use one

I was giving my SnS a deep clean since it’s been on location it’s entire life and was filthy.

However, I made a big oopsie. Forgot to take pictures of the apron and which bolts/spacers go on the playfield underneath it, and how it is supported.

Anyone have good pictures of a tear down of their SnS for reference?

Since none of you schmucks were of help, I’m giving back and posting photos of my shop job. I polished everything by hand and waxed the playfield. I spend hours polishing it and it looks great. The worn areas are too bad, maybe one day a NOS playfield will cross my path.468ED265-ACE9-4CFB-8744-D188C6DDC5A9.jpeg
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Double check that the ball isn’t kicking out so hard that it’s bouncing right back down. That was happening to me. If it’s not kicking out, the spring needs to be changed. Gottlieb had a service bulletin about this. The spring is too strong.

Weird issue at the arcade today.
The right diverter plunger kept firing over and over persistently once or twice a minute. Not sure how long it had been running. The coil was VERY hot, but not too hot that I couldn’t hold me hand on it.

The opto tests fine, and after power cycling the game twice it stopped.

Any clue what might be the cause? This is on every day for 15 hours, 7 days a week. I need to ensure this issue is solved and doesn’t occur again!

Background info: When I got this game that coil had already been replaced and was installed backwards, so this has clearly happened before. I’ve had the game for over a year now and this so the first time it’s happened with me.

Not yet, I cleaned the optos and the problem has yet to return. Strikes N’ Spares is such a great game, I think about selling it sometimes. Then I play it again and realize how much fun it is.

Maybe a cold solder joint? Trace the opto back to the MPU. Perhaps it’s a stray ground. Hard to say!

Nice!!! Love mine. It’s simple and repetitive, but then again, so it bowling. I enjoy it for what it is! Mine is out on location right across from a head shop and those guys come over and play it every night before they head home

I see you don’t own any other Gottliebs. Gottlieb uses a custom 1/2 inch thick rubber for the flippers. It’s Gottlieb flipper rubber, basically. Everyone carries it. I cringe when I go to a collectors house and they have the standard rubber on their games, and it just destroys the damn flipper area.

Saw a rich asshole collector guy who unboxed a Strikes ‘N Spares, BRAND NEW, put standard rubber on the flippers and destroyed his playfield within 4 months. It was so sad and disgusting. He didn’t care.

Gottlieb flippers have a very narrow groove for the rubber to sit in. Oversized rubber or rubber that isn’t seated properly causes the ball to dig into the playfield, kinda like those tricks were you pinch a bottle cap and send it flying. But instead of pinching with your fingers it’s the delicate wood of the playfield and a steel ball.

Just a friendly reminder, most people just don’t know! It’s weird Gottlieb had to be different. But especially considering how beautiful your game is, you want to keep it looking mint for as long as possible! Congrats on such a nice example.

Mine has been on route its ENTIRE life.
See these photos to see what the wrong rubber does to it!

It’s unfortunate it was a bad earner for ops. Despite being on location for 25 years, the original, never-reset audits on mine indicates it’s only made a bit over $5k in 2 and a half decades. It basically did about 50¢ per day, lol.