I'd get a set as well.
Quoted from ImNotNorm:Make it three so far
Any other takers?
I emailed him about a set as well. haven't ordered yet so if it's still open I will be #4 for a set.
Quoted from Murphelman:I emailed him about a set as well. haven't ordered yet so if it's still open I will be #4 for a set.
Sure thing! That's four sets so far. Just waiting for a reply. Once he gets back to me I'll bring everyone up to speed.
Quoted from statictrance:Hell - throw me in for a set of the hole covers too. Mine aren't bad, but there is definite paint loss I'd be better off protecting. I wanted to buy them sooner, but I didn't see an SF2 set and kinda lost sight of it.
Roger that!! 5 sets so far...
***any updates on your f25 ramp fuse situation @statictrance? I'm curious if it's been rectified
Quoted from freddy:I'll take a set too
So we're at 6 sets of cliffy protectors for SF2.
The minute Cliffy responds I'll convey the information and price.
yep - I posted it over in my question thread. After some additional trial and error with the glass off (toddler twins take up all my time - but are now 2 floors above the pins instead of right above them allowing me to be far noisier at nights), I found it was a mechanical issue. I was testing after doing some back and forth and after plenty of successful fires, I heard the whole coil hum loudly - slowly move, then stop and blow the fuse. I never noticed it before until I heard the hum cause I had the glass off, knowing I had a physical issue - not an electrical one
The coil and link must have been removed at one time, and the screws attaching it back were changed to ones that didn't quite fit (too loose). The caused the link to have additional play in it - though not in the upright positon when I was testing it - and when the playfield was down, it would occasionally bind up.
Quoted from statictrance:yep - I posted it over in my question thread. After some additional trial and error with the glass off (toddler twins take up all my time - but are now 2 floors above the pins instead of right above them allowing me to be far noisier at nights), I found it was a mechanical issue. I was testing after doing some back and forth and after plenty of successful fires, I heard the whole coil hum loudly - slowly move, then stop and blow the fuse. I never noticed it before until I heard the hum cause I had the glass off
The coil and link must have been removed at one time, and the screws attaching it back were changed to ones that didn't quite fit (too loose). The caused the link to have additional play in it - though not in the upright positon when I was testing it - and when the playfield was down, it would occasionally bind up.
Hmmmmm......interesting. I'll have to take a closer looks at mine. Thanks for the update!
Quoted from Boat:FYI I msg'd cliffy a few weeks back and he said he had an unpopulated playfield for SF2 . He said he was working on new protectors for other areas and possibly a shooter lane one. Maybe follow up as there would be interes in that
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Quoted from Boat:FYI I msg'd cliffy a few weeks back and he said he had an unpopulated playfield for SF2 . He said he was working on new protectors for other areas and possibly a shooter lane one. Maybe follow up as there would be interes in that
He mentioned that this week to me as well. Also said he was about 3 weeks behind. Must be a busy guy doing this all himself.
I mean - it looks me 4 weeks to find the time to fix my ramps. I can't say I'm in any major hurry. If he gets a protector for the ball drop in the back, I know I have a wear spot there on mine that could use some loving. I can't think of any area elsewhere that needs protection/attention.
played another 4 games last night in and between fixing a Chicago Coin Sound Stage stepper. No ramp issues. The months long saga of WTF may really and truly be over.
Quoted from smitherssp:Anyone ever run into this stuck ball issue? It seems like the vertical bracket isn't aligned vertically enough with the corkscrew. I was thinking of using a small piece of 3M VHB double sided tape to adhere it to the red plastic. Thoughts?
I had this happen when I first got my machine. I just bent the metal l bracket to fit tightly against the spiral and haven't had this happen in years. Your tape idea should also work, any way you can get the metal bracket against the spiral.
Quoted from smitherssp:Anyone ever run into this stuck ball issue? It seems like the vertical bracket isn't aligned vertically enough with the corkscrew. I was thinking of using a small piece of 3M VHB double sided tape to adhere it to the red plastic. Thoughts?
Finally got hang of a ball last night and stuckied one in the exact same spot. It happens when you have the incline up to the maximum (which you need to do, otherwise the game is way too easy). I've been thinking of getting a small piece of clear plastic and curving it around the corkscrew.
Quoted from InfiniteLives:a protector for the sagat/dhalsim saucer would be nice.
I second that one!
Fellow Street fighters! I finally got the machine set up (down?) and started cleaning the playfield and also looking over fuses and coils. 1. All fuses look good.
2. Coils show no sign of stress.
3. Playfield is basically just dirty as hell, beneath it looks good.
4. A little sign of wear around the lower-playfield plastic...any tips to prevent this from further wear? Just put a large piece of mylar over the whole plastic "window" and a little over the pf around?
5. A cable to the subwoofer is cut off...any idea where this should go? See photo. Its the green one.
6. The ramp flap metal has started to rust, tried sandpapering it and it should be playable, have to decide wether to buy new ones.
7. The lithium battery seems to have started to acid slightly, so will have to replace it anyhow. See what replacement I use.
So, will start top shopping it in not too long. Rubber kit and LEDs will be ordered then.
A couple questions;
* What should I order for the flippers to get "normal" playing flipper bats and functionality?
* What size of ball for the underplayfield should I buy to make it harder? Heard of buying a smaller pinball for this.
* Any tips for the best battery replacement?
Added some photos beneath from the process, some before/after and general photos.
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That green wire 's just an earth ground, you don't need it but you can tie it into any other earth ground (look for the same colored wire leading to a bolt or screw)
Swapping out the car crush ball for a smaller one makes it a little harder but for me it's not worth the trouble. The more frequently you trigger the mini game per play the shorter the timer gets.
Quoted from Malenko:Swapping out the car crush ball for a smaller one makes it a little harder but for me it's not worth the trouble. The more frequently you trigger the mini game per play the shorter the timer gets.
I'm in agreement on this. Some of the later car crush are almost impossible even with the standard ball so I recommend keeping it normal sized.
For the flippers, I recommend looking in the manual and replacing and parts individually and cleaning up the parts in there that may be usable. Mine were much much better afterward. I bought it all from Marcos. Let me know if you need a picture of that schematic for part numbers.
Quoted from ZeldaOoT:I'm in agreement on this. Some of the later car crush are almost impossible even with the standard ball so I recommend keeping it normal sized.
For the flippers, I recommend looking in the manual and replacing and parts individually and cleaning up the parts in there that may be usable. Mine were much much better afterward. I bought it all from Marcos. Let me know if you need a picture of that schematic for part numbers.
I guess i should clarify regarding the flippers:
Since it will be used in tournaments and also since im a sadist, i want to make it hard to cut down ball time. Remove center posts, outlane posts etc. I heard it is possible to use some other flipper assembly parts so that the flipper wont have such a typical cradle-angle, thus making it much harder to trap up.
Will another coil stop make this possible?
Quoted from Edenecho:Will another coil stop make this possible?
Ahh, got it. Yeah, I've played one system 3 game (stargate) where they swapped for slightly longer coil stops or a longer plunger. Can't remember which but it played with less cradle. Couldn't tell you the exact part number, sorry.
Quoted from ImNotNorm:Cliffy got back to me and his SF2 protectors will be placed in queue. I guess hed backed up??
Nothing about price though....
Paid around 60usd for sf2 prots, rbion 3piece protector set plus shipping to norway, would assume the sf2 set is around 30 usd..
Quoted from Edenecho:Paid around 60usd for sf2 prots, rbion 3piece protector set plus shipping to norway, would assume the sf2 set is around 30 usd..
He quotes me $37 US shipped for a single order. Maybe better prices with the group buy.
Quoted from Murphelman:He quotes me $37 US shipped for a single order. Maybe better prices with the group buy.
Here's hoping. We have about 7 guys who want protectors for SF2
Regarding flipper rubbers; Is it the same flipper rubber size for all...5 flippers in this game? Is it just a standard rubber size or is it something gottlieb specific sizes?
Thanks!
Quoted from Edenecho:Regarding flipper rubbers; Is it the same flipper rubber size for all...5 flippers in this game? Is it just a standard rubber size or is it something gottlieb specific sizes?
Thanks!
Same standard size for all. I use the narrow ones.
Quoted from ZeldaOoT:Same standard size for all. I use the narrow ones.
Thanks!
What is the physical difference when playing?
Quoted from Edenecho:Thanks!
What is the physical difference when playing?
I made the mistake of putting superbands into mine. they are a little wider than the groove in the flipper bats. When I played the balls kept going airborne so I had to put the old ones back on. I think you need to make sure they fit in the groove on the flipper.
Quoted from Murphelman:I made the mistake of putting superbands into mine. they are a little wider than the groove in the flipper bats. When I played the balls kept going airborne so I had to put the old ones back on. I think you need to make sure they fit in the groove on the flipper.
This is my experience also- they were the wide bands when I got the machine so I swapped. Marcos actually has a narrow super band which is what I use and they fit the gottlieb flipper bat grooves very well. I recommend them. Additionally, I think they look very nice.
Quoted from ZeldaOoT:This is my experience also- they were the wide bands when I got the machine so I swapped. Marcos actually has a narrow super band which is what I use and they fit the gottlieb flipper bat grooves very well. I recommend them. Additionally, I think they look very nice.
Cool, I just dont want superbands on this machine for the moment
So I assume this would work fine, a pure normal red rubber?
Quoted from Edenecho:Cool, I just dont want superbands on this machine for the moment
So I assume this would work fine, a pure normal red rubber?
http://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/38-6519-4
Mine are 3/8" but I think those should work just fine
Quoted from ZeldaOoT:Same standard size for all. I use the narrow ones.
For Gottlieb machines you want the 3/8 rather than the standard 1/2 inch wide rubbers. The 1/2 inch ones sorta fit, but they don't seat into the groove properly. You will get more air balls or playfield wear depending on which side is sitting proud of the groove.
I see the wrong ones on Gottliebs all the time. Here are the parts at Marcos just to see the difference.
http://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/38-10802
VS
http://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/38-6519-4
Quoted from ZeldaOoT:Mine are 3/8" but I think those should work just fine
I got beat to the punch I was interrupted while responding at work
Quoted from ImNotNorm:Here's hoping. We have about 7 guys who want protectors for SF2
I had 2 of them already on the machine I bought, however the hold at the top I'm missing one.
Does the set comes with that piece as well? If so would be interested too.
Quoted from psychopat:I had 2 of them already on the machine I bought, however the hold at the top I'm missing one.
Does the set comes with that piece as well? If so would be interested too.
The top sagat hole isn't available, although I wish it was also.
I have it from a reliable source that Cliff may be working on a new set the Sagat hole, and ball drop/eject area at the top left of the playfield.
I just gotta say that the Guile shot has to be one of the most satisfying shots when you hit it cleanly.
Especially when it's for 300,000,000!!
Quoted from uncivil_engineer:I have it from a reliable source that Cliff may be working on a new set the Sagat hole, and ball drop/eject area at the top left of the playfield.
Here's hoping!! I really want some cliffy protectors!!
Quoted from Murphelman:I just gotta say that the Guile shot has to be one of the most satisfying shots when you hit it cleanly.
Especially when it's for 300,000,000!!
Protip - Leave one of the easy shots for last - then that one becomes re-makeable for 300m until you end your multiball. Hello Billions of points.
Quoted from Murphelman:I just gotta say that the Guile shot has to be one of the most satisfying shots when you hit it cleanly.
Especially when it's for 300,000,000!!
I know! I hit that exact shot for the 300m in my best game ever (I believe a 970m game).
Quoted from statictrance:Protip - Leave one of the easy shots for last - then that one becomes re-makeable for 300m until you end your multiball. Hello Billions of points.
I need to work on keeping multiple balls on the field at once. During multiballs I'm always frantically trying to just hit every jackpot target I can. If I can master this pro tip I will finally break a billion.
Quoted from statictrance:Protip - Leave one of the easy shots for last - then that one becomes re-makeable for 300m until you end your multiball. Hello Billions of points.
I have been trying that but either the ball drains or the sling shots or rebounds hit the easy jackpot inadvertently.
Still love that Guile shot though!
I thought I had joined the club already but apparently I didn't. Don't worry everybody, here I am. I loved changing out the T-molding. I think I looks way better with some new fresh molding. I bought it to put on location, first time at my old sportclub, just to introduce some people to pinball and there wasn't anything near. But it made like 30 bucks in half a year I will probably sell it sometime but I don't hate the game. I did the longer coilstop mod which I feel like is a must, otherwise it's just to easy but not everybody will agree. Because I put it on location I wanted silicone rubbers and led lighting to keep the machine cool and clean. here are some pics
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